Which of the major aspects of a game is most important?

[Kalahari Inkantation]

you don't even have to choose your own attacks!!!

lol what

[Nyerp]

anything else like what

items, balls, other options????????????

that's so much menu navigation and probably the type of game i'd avoid at all costs

But I think Nintendo's turn-based RPGs, at the very least, could benefit from eliminating menus as there typically isn't a wide variety of attacks to choose from anyway.

you realize most jrpgs have a feature that lets the menu memorize where you last were right?

and no, no they wouldn't; it would really just serve to make the gameplay less intuitive overall and more frustrating

i now realize that people like you are the reason why super paper mario was made

i hate you

[Kalahari Inkantation]

items, balls, other options????????????

i'm just talking about attacks

Menus are perfectly acceptable for items and whatnot.

you realize most jrpgs have a feature that lets the menu memorize where you last were right?

and no, no they wouldn't; it would really just serve to make the gameplay less intuitive overall and more frustrating

i now realize that people like you are the reason why super paper mario was made

i'm not arguing against the turn-based aspect of the games, just the usage of menus to select attacks

I understand that some games need to be turn-based, and I have no problem with that, but I don't understand the need for menus to select attacks unless there's a really huge number of attacks to choose from.

i hate you

:'(

[Thyme]

Honestly, I wouldn't want to play a game like that.

[Andria]

Honestly, I wouldn't want to play a game like that.

Yeah I think that would be reason enough for me to skip over laying a game

[Kalahari Inkantation]

but most games are like that (attacks mapped to buttons, everything else in menus), the only difference is that these would still be turn-based :'(

[Thyme]

but most games are like that (attacks mapped to buttons, everything else in menus), the only difference is that these would still be turn-based :'(

big-ass difference

[Commander Fuckass]

FFVI 4 best jrpg story

[Kalahari Inkantation]

big-ass difference

which is what :'(

I just don't understand why developers would treat attacks as secondary features during RPG battles when in most cases they're necessary at all times and immediate access to them (via buttons) would simplify things.  Healing items and such aren't always necessary and I wouldn't object to them being placed in a menu, but immediately necessary attacks don't need to be tucked away in menus. :'(

Even if an RPG has so many attacks that it'd be impossible to map them all to buttons, a handful that are used most often could be mapped to buttons with the more specific ones that aren't used as frequently available in menus. :'(

[Nyerp]

having a mish-mash game design of button commands and menu commands is honestly just messy and overly complicated

deal w/ it

[Thyme]

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stop it tec you're hurting yourself over this :'(

[Nyerp]

stop it tec you're hurting yourself over this :'(

if you look at the food thread like that then tec is long dead

[Thyme]

if you look at the food thread like that then tec is long dead

hearty laughs were had

[Samus Aran]

final say:

tec is overly picky and demands too much and obviously simply hasn't really given rpgs an actual chance

the end

[Kalahari Inkantation]

oh god lol

But seriously, in turn-based RPGs, especially those with few attacks like Nintendo's, why couldn't common attacks be mapped to buttons and everything else that's not immediately necessary be left in menus?