I've decided that I'm paying so much fucking money for a degree, I might as well do something with it that makes money. Also being an engineer would be slick.
Taking precalc this quarter lol. Gotta start somewhere bassir;
What type of engineering? confuseddood;
I hope this is your first semester, because at my school, engineers have to take more credits than the max (normal max is 18; engineers take about 21), they have assloads of work, and their degrees often take 5 years with all credits maxed out. akudood;
Also, if you're only taking precalc, maybe you should reconsider. Engineering majors are really nothing but math.
Also, engineers aren't that handsomely paid. They typically pull about $70000 a year, which is pretty much starting rate for CS majors.
And don't decide to jump to CS unless you have years of prior experience, because most decent CS programs assume you already know that.
Quote from: bluaki on January 03, 2012, 09:03:20 AM
What type of engineering? confuseddood;
also this
there are like 10 different engineering majors at my school
electrical, petroleum, aerospace, mechanical, computer, bio, industrial, civil, and maybe a couple others
If you major in engineering and take it seriously, you really won't have much of a social life. With my school, if you choose engineering, they outline your entire 4-5 year schedule before you even start and engineers of related majors tend to take classes in sync. I really hope you've planned all this, because just saying "i'm going to major in engineering lol" is about as serious as saying "i'm going to have a baby lol", because it's loads of work for life.
or maybe you go to a shitty school where engineering isn't taken so seriously and it's just that all the schools in my area love competing
Not sure where you're getting your salary stuff but mechanical and aerospace engineers typically start out around 70-80k and move up to 120-150k.
But yeah if you're in college in precalc maybe you shouldn't be an engineer.
Quote from: applesauce on January 03, 2012, 09:14:55 AM
Not sure where you're getting your salary stuff but mechanical and aerospace engineers typically start out around 70-80k and move up to 120-150k.
But yeah if you're in college in precalc maybe you shouldn't be an engineer.
not sure how accurate this is, but the rates seem to match up with what i remembered
http://www.payscale.com/index/US/Degree
Engineers there are ranging from $40000 to $80000 for average people, and up to about $100000 for managers, etc.
Quote from: <sub>Pancake</sub> <sup>Persona</sup> on January 03, 2012, 09:22:45 AM
not sure how accurate this is, but the rates seem to match up with what i remembered
http://www.payscale.com/index/US/Degree
Engineers there are ranging from $40000 to $80000 for average people, and up to about $100000 for managers, etc.
That's a lot less than people I know are making.
Isn't 40000-80000 a lot? Also can't you Learn Those Things in vocational schools? Am I being an idiot fucker???
Quote from: Complicated Bridge on January 03, 2012, 10:36:03 AM
Isn't 40000-80000 a lot? Also can't you Learn Those Things in vocational schools? Am I being an idiot fucker???
It's a good amount of money, but when you consider that engineering students have more work than any other major, it's not
that good. The only thing that compares is training to be a medical doctor at the graduate level, and that path would give you 3 to 20 times the pay.
and vocational schools teach you about building and fixing and maintaining things, but engineering as a university major is about learning how and why everything works and learning the theory behind it. engineers design 2000 ft skyscrapers and plan it out, and people that chose a vocational school do all the hard work of building it.
Both are perfectly fine directions, and for the average worker they pay about the same, but engineering takes loads more mental work, and if you're great at what you do, you can make loads more than the average.
start web host make 50,000 first yar easy
agreed about math level don't just pick something because it seems useful this is your life and by god your CAREER (more important obvs) you're talking about, choose something that suits your soul
Yea I'd go for something that you truly think will be right for you and that you will enjoy.
Every college major and occupation that major leads to has benefits and tradeoffs. Generally better-paying jobs come with more work and more schooling. So really the most important factor is what you enjoy.
Besides, if you and your spouse both make a personal income of like 70,000, really anything more is just luxury money that won't actually make your life any better anyway.
Quote from: Selkie on January 03, 2012, 11:34:29 AM
Yea I'd go for something that you truly think will be right for you and that you will enjoy.
Every college major and occupation that major leads to has benefits and tradeoffs. Generally better-paying jobs come with more work and more schooling. So really the most important factor is what you enjoy.
Besides, if you and your spouse both make a personal income of like 70,000, really anything more is just luxury money that won't actually make your life any better anyway.
hell I'd be happy if I made $32k/yr the rest of my life, what the fuck is there to spend it on anyway? oh yeah kids, that thing you do after college
Quote from: vziard on January 03, 2012, 12:12:12 PM
hell I'd be happy if I made $32k/yr the rest of my life
and then there's inflation
Quote from: <sub>Pancake</sub> <sup>Persona</sup> on January 03, 2012, 12:12:55 PM
and then there's inflation
i'd be happy if I made $32k/yr adjusted for inflation for the rest of my life*
it doesn't matter anyway because I'm killing myself
If you really love it then do it I guessssssss!!! Is how it should be. At least with all that money you can get at that real green
if there is a god, please come back from hell/heaven to let me know. [if i die first i will come back and tell you]
k
there isn't
lol
engineering courses typically take five years and that's with all the necessary prerequisites done in high school.
good luck
Quote from: vziard on January 03, 2012, 12:32:58 PM
it doesn't matter anyway because I'm killing myself
HAHA SNORKILL GETS IT AWESOME
Sounds good just know you'll have to work hard at it happydood;
Quote from: NPR on January 03, 2012, 05:18:07 PM
Sounds good just know you'll have to work hard at it happydood;
well I was just going to use a rubber tube but thanks for your support
Sup guys I'm an English major.
Quote from: Josh on January 03, 2012, 06:23:49 PM
Sup guys I'm an English major.
Another soul lost in the wilderness.
David, why don't you just go into an outdoorsy field since you enjoy being active and outside? maybe be a forest ranger? an outdoor therapist? I dunno.
these are suggestions.
Quote from: applesauce on January 03, 2012, 09:14:55 AM
Not sure where you're getting your salary stuff but mechanical and aerospace engineers typically start out around 70-80k and move up to 120-150k.
But yeah if you're in college in precalc maybe you shouldn't be an engineer.
Well I haven't been taking classes focusing towards an engineering major, so I have to do it now. I took precalc in high school, but i don't have the credits.
And probably mechanical, but I'd need to transfer to another school (probably UW Bothel) to get it figured out
and i'm not retarded, i know what it entails.
you know there's prolly a math placement test at your school like compass or clep, so you can be placed into the right course
um how many semesters have you already taken
because if you haven't taken any engineering courses yet, i hope you realize that everything so far is worthless since it contributes nothing to your major
Are you even interested in engineering? Majoring in something you have no interest in just for the money is stupid.
also lol at precalc. akudood;
i think david would make a very capable engineer from the engineers i've seen in real life
Quote from: Zach on January 03, 2012, 11:51:00 PM
Another soul lost in the wilderness.
Meh. Worst case scenario, I become a lazy, shitty high school teacher.
Quote from: <sub>Pancake</sub> <sup>Persona</sup> on January 04, 2012, 06:42:04 AM
um how many semesters have you already taken
because if you haven't taken any engineering courses yet, i hope you realize that everything so far is worthless since it contributes nothing to your major
Starting this semester. I understand that it would be a lot more work than what I'd do if I decided to keep doing Journalism, but I would much rather look into it and make an educated decision as to whether or not it's worth it rather than not doing it and wishing that I had. Even if it means that I'd need to go to college for a 5th or 6th year to get my degree, it would be worth it in my opinion.
And I'm not committing or anything. Technically I'm still pre-declared in Journalism, and am still taking courses towards that. I'm just taking a few courses to cover the engineering prereqs as well to see if it's something that interests me.
Quote from: Felt on January 04, 2012, 06:40:58 AM
you know there's prolly a math placement test at your school like compass or clep, so you can be placed into the right course
Yeah, I took that immediately in college and qualified for precalc. I would have liked to take accelerated precalc (combines 114 and 115 into one quarter) since it is review for me, but the only class available is full and I missed the waitlist.
Quote from: MF Doom on January 04, 2012, 10:54:45 AM
Yeah, I took that immediately in college and qualified for precalc. I would have liked to take accelerated precalc (combines 114 and 115 into one quarter) since it is review for me, but the only class available is full and I missed the waitlist.
you could try studying up past calc I/II and intro to physics levels by yourself and retaking the placement tests, or just emailing professors really sincerely.
professors very rarely give prerequisite exemptions because precalculus is one of those courses where the math department gets the majority of their funding
but yeah, try to self-study calculus because they end up teaching the hack-n-slash way anyway in such an introductory course
Quote from: N o t S i d on January 04, 2012, 01:10:07 AM
David, why don't you just go into an outdoorsy field since you enjoy being active and outside? maybe be a forest ranger? an outdoor therapist? I dunno.
these are suggestions.
I've thought about doing geology or environmental science but idk there is no real draw for me. Taking an esci class would be kinda cool though.
Quote from: MF Doom on January 04, 2012, 07:32:47 PM
I've thought about doing geology or environmental science but idk there is no real draw for me. Taking an esci class would be kinda cool though.
do geology, learn the secrets of geomancy
Learn Gaia Magic
i don't know man i wouldn't want to shovel coal into a train all my life but if that's what you're into
Quote from: Hiroglyph on January 05, 2012, 01:10:30 PM
i don't know man i wouldn't want to shovel coal into a train all my life but if that's what you're into
wat
the joke still sucked
man my newswriting class is pretty kickass so far, maybe i'll stick with journalism
hmmmmm
nah don't stick with journalism.
Quote from: vziard on January 05, 2012, 07:24:44 PM
nah don't stick with journalism.
it would be so fun
Quote from: MF Doom on January 05, 2012, 09:36:37 PM
it would be so fun
just seems like one of those things that's overly indoctrinated to me idk
like you can write things that are journalistic and work for cool journalistic publications without learning ""journalism"" .. basically all arts college does is teach you how to be generic , fit into job market , etc so your "skills" are more easily appraisable commodities. this isn't my omg rebel view this is just how ""the job market"" works.
so I think the best path you could take, if you want to make your remaining years in college useful, would totally be to choose a science major where you can learn some specialized knowledge that takes too much work to learn elsewhere (how to build oil platforms and detonate underground bombs and do vector calculus and shit).
Quote from: MF Doom on January 05, 2012, 09:36:37 PM
it would be so fun
What about
Gonzo journalism?
Quote from: vziard on January 05, 2012, 10:05:04 PM
like you can write things that are journalistic and work for cool journalistic publications without learning ""journalism"" .. basically all arts college does is teach you how to be generic , fit into job market , etc so your "skills" are more easily appraisable commodities. this isn't my omg rebel view this is just how ""the job market"" works.
Yes, to a degree.
In
that field, though, I think it's entirely dependent on what direction you want to go. Writing about last week's carnival on mainstreet for the local small town sheet is a hell of a lot different than writing an investigative piece on the effects of war fatigue on recent underground music trends for a major publication.
School's going to lay down the beat as to how the business works and is going to equip you to be able to put together a local news piece and might even get you connections with some local heads, but the real great work is going to come from your own established style and big ideas.
Quote from: Boognish-Redux- on January 05, 2012, 11:15:09 PM
What about Gonzo journalism?
Yes, to a degree.
In that field, though, I think it's entirely dependent on what direction you want to go. Writing about last week's carnival on mainstreet for the local small town sheet is a hell of a lot different than writing an investigative piece on the effects of war fatigue on recent underground music trends for a major publication.
School's going to lay down the beat as to how the business works and is going to equip you to be able to put together a local news piece and might even get you connections with some local heads, but the real great work is going to come from your own established style and big ideas.
Yeah, I couldn't agree more. To me, the kind of stubborn and immovable person who would always prefer to work from the outside in, it's just about how long it takes to figure out the rhythm of the beat before I'm bored and onto newer and better things. I also tend to assume that everyone would sacrifice a little security (guaranteed job) to gain dynamism (personal style) in their lives, though that may just be me.
Quote from: MF Doom on January 04, 2012, 06:38:58 AM
probably mechanical
If the following doesn't give you a hard-on you might want to reconsider.
[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/vXDNh.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/QdFgW.png)[/spoiler]
I'm a junior mechanical engineering student btw, ask me any of your questions (except about this picture idk wtf this shit is tbh lol).
Any thoughts what you want to do after you graduate?
Quote from: MF Doom on January 06, 2012, 02:38:03 PM
Any thoughts what you want to do after you graduate?
lol no not really. Mechanical engineering is a really broad field, probably the broadest major out there in all honesty. You can do anything from cars, to airplanes, to furniture, silverware, boxing for different products, manufacturing equipment, power plant design... fucking anything that's physical, really.
Its typically separated into 3 groups. Thermodynamics/fluids, materials engineering, and mechanical design. Thermo and fluids would be for power plants and anything related to fluids such as air conditioning systems or turbine blade design. Materials engineering is strictly the study of materials; what material should be used for this particular object. Some need to be able to withstand lots of force, temperature change, etc. They also create new materials with specific properties. Mechanical design is a lot of CAD work and involves the physical design of things. You would take into consideration the dynamic movement of parts, stresses and strains. The screenshots are from a dynamic systems and control book, which would probably be categorized as part of the designing processes.
I think I want to do computational fluid dymanics, which would be for doing computer simulation of fluids. Probably would end up doing air conditioning system simulations if I took that route to be honest. To ensure that all the areas get ventilated properly. Maybe turbine blades idk. If not that, then I would want to design manufacturing machinery.
Quote from: Walter on January 06, 2012, 03:28:13 PM
lol no not really. Mechanical engineering is a really broad field, probably the broadest major out there in all honesty. You can do anything from cars, to airplanes, to furniture, silverware, boxing for different products, manufacturing equipment, power plant design... fucking anything that's physical, really.
Its typically separated into 3 groups. Thermodynamics/fluids, materials engineering, and mechanical design. Thermo and fluids would be for power plants and anything related to fluids such as air conditioning systems or turbine blade design. Materials engineering is strictly the study of materials; what material should be used for this particular object. Some need to be able to withstand lots of force, temperature change, etc. They also create new materials with specific properties. Mechanical design is a lot of CAD work and involves the physical design of things. You would take into consideration the dynamic movement of parts, stresses and strains. The screenshots are from a dynamic systems and control book, which would probably be categorized as part of the designing processes.
I think I want to do computational fluid dymanics, which would be for doing computer simulation of fluids. Probably would end up doing air conditioning system simulations if I took that route to be honest. To ensure that all the areas get ventilated properly. Maybe turbine blades idk. If not that, then I would want to design manufacturing machinery.
HVAC mofo
Quote from: vziard on January 06, 2012, 03:35:57 PM
HVAC mofo
Yeah. If I wanted to do something related to fluid dynamics it would probably be that, or something related to airplanes like the turbine blades in the engine since they have to be designed according to the air intake. I still have like 5 semesters left so I haven't quite seen all there is to see, so I don't know which field I want to try to get into.
Honestly though, only do it if you like applied math... a lot.
Quote from: Walter on January 06, 2012, 03:43:51 PM
Yeah. If I wanted to do something related to fluid dynamics it would probably be that, or something related to airplanes like the turbine blades in the engine since they have to be designed according to the air intake. I still have like 5 semesters left so I haven't quite seen all there is to see, so I don't know which field I want to try to get into.
Honestly though, only do it if you like applied math... a lot.
if you become an HVAC Xpert I will hire you to design cooling systems for data centers (but only if they;re good)
see you make connections on boyah too
A lot of you are being overly unsupportive about this.
David, I just have one word of advice. Study what motivates you. If you like it, you'll make it work for you in your future. Even if you have to take two more years of schooling, study Engineering if it's what you're passionate about. Two years is nothing in the grand scheme of your life.
But make sure you actually enjoy it before you dive headfirst. Research a bit. Maybe take a few courses to see what its like.
gonzo journalism is still bullshit though. they pretty much are the Blogs of the 1960s.
Quote from: vziard on January 06, 2012, 04:16:43 PM
if you become an HVAC Xpert I will hire you to design cooling systems for data centers (but only if they;re good)
see you make connections on boyah too
awwwwww yeah lubdoods;
Quote from: Hippopo on January 06, 2012, 04:35:16 PM
A lot of you are being overly unsupportive about this.
nah man, trying to be realistic. theres a reason why the majority of engineering students drop out, theres no reason to waste money on tuition if you aren't positive thats what you want to do.
Quote from: Walter on January 06, 2012, 04:54:51 PM
awwwwww yeah lubdoods;
nah man, trying to be realistic. theres a reason why the majority of engineering students drop out, theres no reason to waste money on tuition if you aren't positive thats what you want to do.
Yeah, but none of us even know David in real life, so we aren't sure how passionate he really is about it. If anything, we are causing him to have a higher likelihood of failure by instantly dismissing his dream.
I think we can be supportive and realistic at the same time.
Quote from: Hippopo on January 06, 2012, 04:59:52 PM
Yeah, but none of us even know David in real life, so we aren't sure how passionate he really is about it. If anything, we are causing him to have a higher likelihood of failure by instantly dismissing his dream.
I think we can be supportive and realistic at the same time.
"I've decided that I'm paying so much fucking money for a degree, I might as well do something with it that makes money."
If he's really passionate about it, I'd love to hear it. Really.
Switching from Journalism to something so incredibly specialized as Engineering is a massive step across the pond.
But if it's something you really want to do, really and fucking honestly, all the more power to you. Have a goal in front of you and take the steps to get there.
Quote from: Complicated Bridge on January 06, 2012, 04:41:00 PM
gonzo journalism is still bullshit though. they pretty much are the Blogs of the 1960s.
You shut your damn mouth.
don't get me wrong. they are entertaining, but as far as journalism goes....heh...
Quote from: Complicated Bridge on January 06, 2012, 11:25:45 PM
don't get me wrong. they are entertaining, but as far as journalism goes....heh...
If only you could take that style and combine it with actual fact.
Quote from: Boognish-Redux- on January 06, 2012, 11:41:43 PM
If only you could take that style and combine it with actual fact.
the style really has no focus on True Events, it just the writer warping everything. but it is entertaining
[move](http://i.imgur.com/bhOW5.jpg)[/move]
it's true even outside of the fyad context :'(
Major in physics olol
And there's always philosophy. giggle;
Quote from: Hippopo on January 08, 2012, 09:17:03 PM
And there's always philosophy. giggle;
I keep thinking this has something to do with my post.
Quote from: ,,,-,,, on January 08, 2012, 09:25:28 PM
I keep thinking this has something to do with my post.
Well, it does
Major in Crime >:]
yeah i'm not doing this anymore lol
this was a silly week long revelation
ITT: CRUSHED HOPES AND DREAMS
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BOYAY wrench;
Quote from: ,,,-,,, on January 10, 2012, 09:42:20 PM
ITT: CRUSHED HOPES AND DREAMS
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BOYAY wrench;
its how we roll nigga
lol had nothing to do with boyah
i got encouragement from proving you guys wrong
but then lols
yeah you prove us wrong oh the sting
You did when you thought you were proving us wrong. spam;
Go into accounting. baddood;
David seems like he's heading down the road towards the humanities.
lol @ people with worthless majors