Ukraine and Russia event discussion

[YPrrrr]

If this doesn't break out into full-blown war this could be one of the best things to ever happen to the Ukraine

Europe will give them anything just to piss off Russia

[Kalahari Inkantation]

[spoiler=26 may][/spoiler]
[spoiler=22 june][/spoiler]
[spoiler=26 july][/spoiler]

[Kalahari Inkantation]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-releases-images-it-says-show-russia-has-fired-artillery-over-border-into-ukraine/2014/07/27/f9190158-159d-11e4-9e3b-7f2f110c6265_story.html

wmds confirmed

pack your bags, boys, it's time to invade

[Kalahari Inkantation]

[spoiler=26 may][/spoiler]
[spoiler=22 june][/spoiler]
[spoiler=26 july][/spoiler]

[spoiler][/spoiler]

oooh myyy goodnesssssssssssssssss

[Kalahari Inkantation]

http://news.sky.com/story/1309179/russia-accused-as-ossetia-fenced-off

this is what happens when you betray the motherland

stalin is turning in his grave over what spineless limp-wristed eurofascists the once-glorious georgians have beome

[Kalahari Inkantation]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/30/us-ukraine-crisis-rebels-idUSKBN0FZ1LZ20140730

it's all coming to pieces

well, at least until putin toughens up after his recent setbacks and injects a new stream of troops and weapons into donbas

[Kalahari Inkantation]

http://liveuamap.com/?ll=48.1222933466746;37.517507324218734&zoom=8

neat

looks like ukraine's successfully separated the two breakaway territories

i hadn't realized that mh17 went down directly in between them lol

[Kalahari Inkantation]

http://www.ibtimes.com/will-russia-cut-gas-europe-morgan-stanley-analysts-think-so-1643354

where do i sign up to be come an analyst

i wish someone would pay me to spout absolute nonsense about topics i've never researched all day

[Kalahari Inkantation]

http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/vladimir-putin-says-world-should-draw-lessons-from-wwi_951808.html

It serves as a reminder of what aggression and selfishness, exorbitant ambitions of heads of state and political elites prevailing over common sense can lead to.

[Kalahari Inkantation]

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/743254
http://en.apa.az/xeber_russia_imposes_customs_taxes_on_some_mol_214633.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28603140
http://greece.greekreporter.com/2014/07/31/russia-may-restrict-greek-us-imports/

that last one is particularly funny: http://greece.greekreporter.com/2014/07/04/greek-fruit-and-vegetables-among-the-safest-in-eu/

[Kalahari Inkantation]

yesterday: http://www.thedrum.com/news/2014/07/31/selfie-addicted-russian-soldier-caught-ukrainian-territory-instagram-geo-tagging-0

today: https://www.thetrumpet.com/article/11954.19.0.0/world/military/russia-to-ban-soldier-selfies-to-prevent-incriminating-evidence-from-going-viral

lol

[ME##]

world history class in 2088: how was the former russian federation's involvement in the ukrainian crisis of 2013-15 finally revealed?
a. a russian soldier posted a geo-tagged "selfie" (a picture of oneself taken with an ancient cellular phone) to a website known as instagram
b. us satellites caught russian troop movement into ukraine
c. intercepted messages between pro-russian rebels and the russian military
d. none of the above

[Kalahari Inkantation]

http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-struggles-to-find-strategy-for-getting-back-crimea/25478894.html

well that's because there isn't one

does kiev really still think it has any remote chance of getting crimea back

lol

[ME##]

http://www.rferl.org/content/ukraine-struggles-to-find-strategy-for-getting-back-crimea/25478894.html

well that's because there isn't one

does kiev really still think it has any remote chance of getting crimea back

lol

As long as the West refuses to recognise Russia's claim, probably

[Kalahari Inkantation]

true, though i'd sure hope ukraine is realistic enough to understand that whether or not the """west""" """recognizes""" a foreign claim is utterly meaningless in practical terms, especially in this case

the most pragmatic approach for ukraine at this point is to hopefully beat back russia's irregular forces in donbas, relinquish crimea in the aftermath as a bargaining chip to alleviate tensions and get russia to off, and move on

the sooner they acknowledge that they're never getting it back, the sooner we can put this all behind us

[spoiler=and now for my own kiev-level delusional wishful thinking]

and the sooner they can join us in nato because territorial integrity is a fundamental prerequisite[/spoiler]