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Poll
Question: should hobbit
Option 1: lose his virginity to a hooker votes: 3
Option 2: find a girlfriend votes: 10
Title: i'm turning 21
Post by: hobbit on June 13, 2011, 04:32:51 PM
i'm turning 21 in a couple of weeks but i have a problem; i've not had any type of physical intimacy with a lady before. i'm thinking of getting a hooker or maybe just go to a sleazy massage place. how do i go about doing this? one of you must know.

poll: should hobbit lose his virginity to a hooker or find a girlfriend
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Travis on June 13, 2011, 04:33:32 PM
maybe you could go to a bar?  doodthing;
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: KonohaShinobi on June 13, 2011, 04:33:43 PM
>21
>virgin
what
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 13, 2011, 04:34:51 PM
oh god why myface;
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: hobbit on June 13, 2011, 04:37:52 PM
Quote from: Travis on June 13, 2011, 04:33:32 PM
maybe you could go to a bar?  doodthing;
yeah obvoviouslyt i could try that but it isn't likely
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Travis on June 13, 2011, 04:39:21 PM
Quote from: hobbit on June 13, 2011, 04:37:52 PM
yeah obvoviouslyt i could try that but it isn't likely
why is it not likely? you're turning 21 anyway
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: snoorkel on June 13, 2011, 04:44:18 PM
that's such a bad idea
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: hobbit on June 13, 2011, 04:46:06 PM
Quote from: vziard on June 13, 2011, 04:44:18 PM
that's such a bad idea
ur just jelous that im gettin laid, bro.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: snoorkel on June 13, 2011, 04:47:54 PM
Quote from: hobbit on June 13, 2011, 04:46:06 PM
ur just jelous that im gettin laid, bro.


haha
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: YPrrrr on June 13, 2011, 04:54:02 PM
Have you ever had a girlfriend or anything... a kiss?
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: hobbit on June 13, 2011, 04:55:34 PM
Quote from: YPR on June 13, 2011, 04:54:02 PM
Have you ever had a girlfriend or anything... a kiss?
no
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: ME## on June 13, 2011, 05:10:25 PM
try to find a girlfriend. 



you don't want to lose your virginity to some hooker.  confuseddood;
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Samus Aran on June 13, 2011, 05:22:50 PM
yeah really, don't give your virginity to a hooker, that's retarded
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: me003 on June 13, 2011, 06:22:01 PM
Quote from: Kyou on June 13, 2011, 05:22:50 PM
yeah really, don't give your virginity to a hooker, that's retarded
this
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: piano moths on June 13, 2011, 07:41:54 PM
make it fun and not gross at least (not a hooker) we don't need to rush these things
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on June 13, 2011, 08:39:05 PM
get the hooker, first one is free
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: applesauce on June 14, 2011, 12:13:25 AM
This is really dumb. Having your first time with someone you aren't close to/trust is a really bad idea. Don't do it with a random person at a bar either.



Also, hookers are gross.

Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: FAMY2 on June 14, 2011, 05:05:56 AM
No hooker please.  >.<
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Slim on June 14, 2011, 06:26:05 AM
Don't resort to the hooker, but don't bother looking for someone special either (lol, seriously people?). Put your efforts toward getting a one-night stand.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: YPrrrr on June 14, 2011, 06:37:06 AM
Slim's right, you'll never know the value of a dollar until you work for it
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Slim on June 14, 2011, 06:49:18 AM
Quote from: YPR on June 14, 2011, 06:37:06 AM
Slim's right, you'll never know the value of a dollar until you work for it


Exactly.

If anyone else here ever needs life advice, feel free to ask me. I'm never wrong.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Selkie on June 14, 2011, 09:51:10 AM
Animals are best, consent is not needed
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: hobbit on June 14, 2011, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: Slim on June 14, 2011, 06:26:05 AM
Don't resort to the hooker, but don't bother looking for someone special either (lol, seriously people?). Put your efforts toward getting a one-night stand.
ok, i guess i'll try that. but i don't know how to be romantic or be a smooth talker or hold a conversation. any tips?? or should i just go for the drunkest chick i can find?
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Selkie on June 14, 2011, 02:23:20 PM
"ok, i guess i'll try that. but i don't know how to be romantic or be a smooth talker or hold a conversation. any tips?? or should i just go for the drunkest chick i can find?"
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Travis on June 14, 2011, 02:28:07 PM
Quote from: hobbit on June 14, 2011, 01:29:15 PM
ok, i guess i'll try that. but i don't know how to be romantic or be a smooth talker or hold a conversation. any tips?? or should i just go for the drunkest chick i can find?
fyi booze will help out with all of those issues
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Samus Aran on June 14, 2011, 02:29:49 PM
to quote a mediocre movie, you're "putting the pussy on a pedestal." stop doing that. you should be more concerned with the fact you've never had a girlfriend at all. let sex be a natural bonus to getting a girl that you care about.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: applesauce on June 14, 2011, 02:31:32 PM
Quote from: Kyou on June 14, 2011, 02:29:49 PM
to quote a mediocre movie, you're "putting the pussy on a pedestal." stop doing that. you should be more concerned with the fact you've never had a girlfriend at all. let sex be a natural bonus to getting a girl that you care about.


This.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Travis on June 14, 2011, 02:31:36 PM
Quote from: Kyou on June 14, 2011, 02:29:49 PM
to quote a mediocre movie, you're "putting the pussy on a pedestal." stop doing that. you should be more concerned with the fact you've never had a girlfriend at all. let sex be a natural bonus to getting a girl that you care about.
it sounds to me like he just wants to get fucking laid
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Samus Aran on June 14, 2011, 02:36:51 PM
Quote from: Travis on June 14, 2011, 02:31:36 PM
it sounds to me like he just wants to get fucking laid


yeah but i think never having had any intimacy at all is a more pressing issue

i mean if he does happen to get laid before having a girlfriend, that's fine and i'm not gonna chastise him, but dear god at least don't do it with a hooker
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: hobbit on June 14, 2011, 05:06:43 PM
but if i get  hooker she'll do anything i ask.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 14, 2011, 05:45:22 PM
and after the five minutes of 'pleasure' are over you'll regret it for the rest of your life 5thgrade;
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: ME## on June 14, 2011, 05:46:35 PM
Quote from: Tectrinket on June 14, 2011, 05:45:22 PM
and after the five minutes of 'pleasure' are over you'll regret it for the rest of your life 5thgrade;

especially if the hooker decides to kill you in order to take the rest of your money goowan
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: applesauce on June 14, 2011, 05:51:55 PM
I imagine that having your first time with someone you don't know really well would be very awkward, embarrassing, and just generally unpleasant. Especially since you have had no intimacy with a woman at all.

It's just not a good idea.  awdood;
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 14, 2011, 06:10:27 PM
Quote from: ME86 on June 14, 2011, 05:46:35 PM
especially if the hooker decides to kill you in order to take the rest of your money goowan


what a way to go goowan
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: hobbit on June 15, 2011, 03:38:13 PM
Quote from: applesauce on June 14, 2011, 05:51:55 PM
I imagine that having your first time with someone you don't know really well would be very awkward, embarrassing, and just generally unpleasant. Especially since you have had no intimacy with a woman at all.

It's just not a good idea.  awdood;
maybe it's just me but i'd think that losing it to someone i don't know would be less awkward because i'd probably never see that person again.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: famy on June 15, 2011, 04:29:27 PM
i almots lol'd at the thr aed but then i felt bad but then i lold anyway lol you sir are a faggot
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: just1more on June 18, 2011, 06:02:45 AM
Seriously?  doodthing;

I just turned 21 this past sunday. I'm still a virgin. Who cares? All my friends know I'm a virgin. Sure, they give me shit about it every now and then, but that's because they're my friends.

Just wait til you get a girlfriend. Don't pay for sex. That's just sad. That's admitting defeat.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: strongbad on June 18, 2011, 09:52:58 AM
as somebody who lost their virginity to a drunken girl who I had no connection with, i would really recommend losing it to somebody who you care about.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Socks on June 18, 2011, 12:56:47 PM
Quote from: Slim on June 14, 2011, 06:26:05 AM
Don't resort to the hooker, but don't bother looking for someone special either (lol, seriously people?). Put your efforts toward getting a one-night stand.



I object to this crude attitude. And you will hear my objection tonight.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: The spy who loves you on June 18, 2011, 02:44:52 PM
I ALMOST fucked a girl I cared nothing about.And I've had other girls willing to go that far, but honestly you owe it to yourself to lose it someone you care about.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Travis on June 18, 2011, 02:47:28 PM
am i the only one who feels that you all put sex on a really high pedestal when it's not actually that special
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: YPrrrr on June 18, 2011, 03:00:17 PM
Quote from: Travis on June 18, 2011, 02:47:28 PM
am i the only one who feels that you all put sex on a really high pedestal when it's not actually that special
Hm, I don't know; but the morning after you do it really seems much better when they're still around and you can lie around with them. I don't think I could handle the callousness
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Slim on June 18, 2011, 05:29:09 PM
Quote from: Socks on June 18, 2011, 12:56:47 PM

I object to this crude attitude. And you will hear my objection tonight.


Of course you would. You're a romantic.

Not all of us treat sex as the highest expression of beauty between two lovers, sorry.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 18, 2011, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: Travis on June 18, 2011, 02:47:28 PM
am i the only one who feels that you all put sex on a really high pedestal when it's not actually that special


nope
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Samus Aran on June 18, 2011, 07:09:13 PM
Quote from: Travis on June 18, 2011, 02:47:28 PM
am i the only one who feels that you all put sex on a really high pedestal when it's not actually that special


well, i sure don't. that's why i think he should stop caring about it so much and worry more about actually, you know, getting some girl experience first.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: famy on June 19, 2011, 12:09:39 AM
Quote from: Tectrinket on June 18, 2011, 07:03:45 PM
nope
that's because you like gay sex you faggot
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: crystalpepsi on June 19, 2011, 07:47:13 AM
Quote from: Not Famy on June 15, 2011, 04:29:27 PM
i almots lol'd at the thr aed but then i felt bad but then i lold anyway lol you sir are a faggot
Says the guy who bangs an ugly chick. faggot
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: famy on June 19, 2011, 07:48:18 AM
Quote from: WTFRAWL on June 19, 2011, 07:47:13 AM
Says the guy who bangs an ugly chick. faggot

haha ok


says the nerd who has never had a girlfriend  bassir;
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: crystalpepsi on June 19, 2011, 08:15:31 AM
Quote from: Not Famy on June 19, 2011, 07:48:18 AM
haha ok


says the nerd who has never had a girlfriend  bassir;
Lol if I had low standards like you it'd be easy.  hocuspocus;
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: famy on June 19, 2011, 08:27:29 AM
Quote from: WTFRAWL on June 19, 2011, 08:15:31 AM
Lol if I had low standards like you it'd be easy.  hocuspocus;
my standards are fine, you're the one even more desperate than the faggot that made this thread

it would be easy if you had any social skills and weren't completely ugly  n_n
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on June 19, 2011, 08:30:12 AM
Quote from: Not Famy on June 19, 2011, 12:09:39 AM
that's because you like gay sex you faggot


i asked you to keep that private :(
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: crystalpepsi on June 19, 2011, 08:39:30 PM
Quote from: Not Famy on June 19, 2011, 08:27:29 AM
my standards are fine, you're the one even more desperate than the faggot that made this thread

it would be easy if you had any social skills and weren't completely ugly  n_n
Lol the irony.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: just1more on June 20, 2011, 05:44:46 AM
Actually, girl experience really is all he needs. Instead of working on how to get sex, how about you work on how to even flirt with a girl first. Then learn how to kiss a girl. And then worry about getting in her pants.

Gotta learn how to walk before you can run.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Socks on June 20, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
Quote from: Slim on June 18, 2011, 05:29:09 PM
Of course you would. You're a romantic.

Not all of us treat sex as the highest expression of beauty between two lovers, sorry.


A Romantic, huh? I guess that makes you the Barbarian, right?

We're all simply one in the same, the only difference lies in priorities. She can be treated that way. Only more of us need to. Some seek to balance everything out to a fault and move on with their life in a more agreeable manner with the world at large. This is fine. If you are aware you are miserable. And if you are not you are confused and upset. So lets all admit the sacrifice of this casual view. It does not cultivate a condition in which you actually need and want someone else as everything in your life.  Because your efforts and your attention is focused somewhere else, and intent and indifference without the right cause, well, they lead to a lot of gain, but really you're still alone, and only half an individual. It's not difficult to love another or an abnormal thing at all, it is natural and very real.

When I see a girl, I see how she expresses her beauty and changes the world around her into a more lovely state, enchanting and graceful. I want to know more. I want to feel it. And I want to have it. My life suddenly has more meaning and positive light, with an opportunity to invest itself into a source of inspiration, achievement and potential that is pure and decent and actually a 'true achievement' if done right. So I introduce myself and proceed happily to wherever the connection goes, no pretense nor plan, only the burning desire to make a genuine and cool friend. Sure it takes patience and it takes time, transfixed mornings and bewildered nights, but my life can't go on for solely my own sake, so this
approach takes precedence, and becomes a true and noble and rewarding priority in my own life.

I hardly think this is an uncommon feeling to sense, but the willingness to openly profess it, understand it, and earnestly pursue it, is where it all becomes a mess. A woman may be attractive, yes, but her habits and thoughts, if not just as beautiful, are the ultimate turn off. There is no desire to advance on that front. Even if to her such excursions are a weekend trip. To me they are not. So I don't compromise, even if she does. To hell with society and all who will dispense emotions for a quicker, behind the curtain, sight.

Their ice cream melts, mine does not, because she's a rose.

I could mention the benefits of a close relationship and how I feel with mine. But if you don't care to know, you don't deserve to either.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Slim on June 20, 2011, 11:05:46 AM
Thanks for that, socks. I feel more enlightened already.

I'm not saying that he should never go for a close relationship or that one-night stands are superior to a real girlfriend, only that he shouldn't let his inability to find a long-term partner get in the way of him losing his virginity. What if he doesn't find a girl that makes him feel the way you do about your girlfriend? How old should he be before caving in and going for a one-night stand? 30? 40? Really I'd love to know.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Socks on June 20, 2011, 10:20:01 PM
You're a funny guy Slim, and it made me laugh. To answer your question however...

I would too, but unfortunately for the two of us I am not in the business of rifortune telling the future. From my own past I can tell you that finding theƩ girl is the easy part, getting her to care is often very difficult. On that part good luck and careful picking. In any case you are right of course and one should reason against the absence and follow chance, wherever she presents herself. I just find it hard to believe that a decent fellow in such time would consistently uoremain alone. Perhaps he could, and in such case it is clear that something is wrong, and on that matter neither you or I have any place to talk.

And hey I never said it was easy! I only said what must be done. If you fail, that's on you. The moment you endeavor onto something is the instant your epic saga begins, and if yiu don't take it seriously and hold it a little artistically, I don't know, your stage might not seem as crowded as mine. Generally speaking of course.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Samus Aran on June 20, 2011, 10:37:28 PM
Quote from: yoseph on June 20, 2011, 05:44:46 AM
Actually, girl experience really is all he needs. Instead of working on how to get sex, how about you work on how to even flirt with a girl first. Then learn how to kiss a girl. And then worry about getting in her pants.

Gotta learn how to walk before you can run.


exactly
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: just1more on June 21, 2011, 12:15:02 PM
Quote from: Kyou on June 20, 2011, 10:37:28 PM
exactly

What he's got to realize is of course he's gonna screw up a lot. He doesn't have any experience. But you don't get experience if you don't talk to girls and simply pay for sex. Sure, I guess you'll get experience in the sack, but that is so less important than actually talking to the girl and relating with her. Hence the word "relationship".

He will screw up, but he must realize his mistakes and remember to correct them for next time. If it helps, think of it as a video game, with experience points and different levels.

[spoiler]I know that helps me. >_>[/spoiler]
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: hobbit on June 24, 2011, 04:54:33 PM
Quote from: Socks on June 20, 2011, 10:39:52 AM
A Romantic, huh? I guess that makes you the Barbarian, right?

We're all simply one in the same, the only difference lies in priorities. She can be treated that way. Only more of us need to. Some seek to balance everything out to a fault and move on with their life in a more agreeable manner with the world at large. This is fine. If you are aware you are miserable. And if you are not you are confused and upset. So lets all admit the sacrifice of this casual view. It does not cultivate a condition in which you actually need and want someone else as everything in your life.  Because your efforts and your attention is focused somewhere else, and intent and indifference without the right cause, well, they lead to a lot of gain, but really you're still alone, and only half an individual. It's not difficult to love another or an abnormal thing at all, it is natural and very real.

When I see a girl, I see how she expresses her beauty and changes the world around her into a more lovely state, enchanting and graceful. I want to know more. I want to feel it. And I want to have it. My life suddenly has more meaning and positive light, with an opportunity to invest itself into a source of inspiration, achievement and potential that is pure and decent and actually a 'true achievement' if done right. So I introduce myself and proceed happily to wherever the connection goes, no pretense nor plan, only the burning desire to make a genuine and cool friend. Sure it takes patience and it takes time, transfixed mornings and bewildered nights, but my life can't go on for solely my own sake, so this
approach takes precedence, and becomes a true and noble and rewarding priority in my own life.

I hardly think this is an uncommon feeling to sense, but the willingness to openly profess it, understand it, and earnestly pursue it, is where it all becomes a mess. A woman may be attractive, yes, but her habits and thoughts, if not just as beautiful, are the ultimate turn off. There is no desire to advance on that front. Even if to her such excursions are a weekend trip. To me they are not. So I don't compromise, even if she does. To hell with society and all who will dispense emotions for a quicker, behind the curtain, sight.

Their ice cream melts, mine does not, because she's a rose.

I could mention the benefits of a close relationship and how I feel with mine. But if you don't care to know, you don't deserve to either.
so basically what you're saying is that everything is more fun with someone you love. i agree with that.

but wouldn't you agree that it's more fun to do something with anyone than to do nothing by yourself? or course, not in all situations.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Socks on June 24, 2011, 05:41:29 PM
I would agree with that but only because they wow over me. You see, everything that I do has been honed and enhanced on my own over time, so in comparison it seems perfected and awesome. How I cuff my sleeves, what shoes I wear, and the way I talk and look at you. It's only because people mean more to me than it does to them. To me a meeting is a chance, to them it's a routine. But they don't know that. And they feel special.

For those of us who watch time tick alone, when we meet someone it is the most important time. So we put more effort and thought into the occasion and ourselves. That extra standard which we hold our own was born out of appreciation and awareness of what it means to have someone, and how you achieve that status. So it's translated onto you and in a general encounter it comes out in a way of passion and mystery. Someone to love and understand. And it's true, so they get it all.

That's the good thing about being alone sometimes; the person you find next, meets a changed man. And doesn't even know how lucky she is.

Not everything you do alone is a waste. Actually the opposite, it's a treasure. It will always show through, and always positively for you. For me, the biggest happiness and inspiration in a relationship comes from showing the people whom I have come to know and care for (and ultimately how I show it) the things I have myself learned, seen and done; because I value those things. And I want them to know them too. To me that's the essence of friendship and the beauty of love. 

Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Socks on June 24, 2011, 06:23:06 PM
Oh I almost left out the most important part. You must make sure that that someone means something and is long term partner. Otherwise all of your spent talent will go to waste. And your time alone will have meant nothing, and she will get what she has neither earned or deserved. So make sure that they have and do.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: hobbit on July 05, 2011, 10:14:13 AM
i dunno. i think you're putting too much thought into it. i'm a firm believer in fate and anything that will happen will happen. so why bother searching for/creating a deeper meaning in the things we do? i agree with the things you said just not necessarily your point of view. i believe life is about sharing and togetherness and all that but that doesn't mean that i need a significant other. Relationships are just a result of what society claims to be the best way to share your life. I don't plan on ever having kids nor do i plan on being married. if i do happen to find someone i want to marry i won't object. however, i don't really see it being a big priority for me.

there are other ways of expressing yourself and sharing your experiences with people other than just spending a lot of time with others. my dream in life is to be a musician and composer. that's how i'll share my life with others by creating and performing music that connects with me. to me sex, sexuality, romance, ect. are all just ways of showing your love and sharing your deepest feelings for others.

but i'm a loner. i don't have close friends. i prefer to spend most of my time alone and i usually happy with that. sometimes the loneliness gets to me. and maybe i will end up getting married someday and having kids and live 'normally'. maybe i won't. sex to me is just a biological program, something that happens and it's my choice how, or if, to satisfy my urges.

like i said i believe in fate. if i'm meant to find my dream girl i will. if i don't that's cool too. if i do find that girl nothing in my past will matter because i've got the rest of the future to look forward to.

BIRTHDAY UPDATE: i drank a six pack of dos xx and smoked some weed alone in the park watching the stars while reflecting on all the memories of the past year of my life. it was a good birthday and i enjoyed it even though i didn't get laid.
Title: Re: i'm turning 21
Post by: Dullahan on July 05, 2011, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: hobbit on July 05, 2011, 10:14:13 AM
i don't have close friends.
I'd start working on that before finding a girl. A lover with no friends can get clingy.