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Have any of you ever gotten into the competetive melee scene? I know Cameron and a few outsiders have, but I can't think of anyone who posts now.

I've been playing pretty competitively for the last couple months with my friend Danny (around 2-3 hours daily is what we usually average) and we're getting pretty damn good. I've finally mastered some advanced techs like shorthopping, l-canceling, and obviously SHFFLing, as that goes along with the latter two. Also, my wave dashing was sub-par, so today we decided to take some Adderall and practice and HOLY SHIT I am amazing at wave dashing now. I can easily implement it into my play now.

In terms of main characters, I've been sticking to Marth, which is a pain in the ass since Danny's main is Samus (missile spam ahhh) and is secondary is Peach (turnip (or radish?) spam ahhh)). My secondary is Dr. Mario but he doesn't come close to my Marth.

But yeah, I've decide that Melee is the best Super Smash Bros. game to date and anybody who thinks otherwise must suck at Super Smash.

ITT SUPER SMASH BROS. MELEE AND WHY IT'S AWESOME

I'm not even particularly great at Smash and I totally agree that Melee is the best in every conceivable way. I wish I had people to play it with, I really do. If Boyagers ever got together, Melee would occur.

Whenever I actually do play it, which is rare, Samus is generally my go-to girl. She's kind of overpowered I know, but hey, use what you got right? And honestly in my experience missile spam is a really shitty tactic anyway lol. And I think everyone's wised up to the ol' fire a missile then immediately fire off a charged beam shot thing.

I think I just use Samus the most because Metroid is my favorite game series ever and Samus by conjunction is one of the coolest characters ever created.

I also enjoy using Pikachu and Young Link a lot. Young Link used to be pretty much my main, but not as much anymore.

I never owned Melee until after Brawl got released so I really didn't play it often. The only times I would play was over a friends house, but I was pretty good with Marth. Not like amazing or anything, just the best of my group of friends.

Melee was an awesome game. I don't think I've played it since acquiring it though lol. I haven't even played Brawl in a long time. I gotta get my Smash back on.

i like smash bros. but i hate how other people play it, especially with melee giggle;

Competitive gaming almost always sucks the fun out of a game.  giggle;

Quote from: Hurluberlu on January 27, 2011, 05:29:10 PM
Competitive gaming almost always sucks the fun out of a game.  giggle;

People just say this because they are sick of getting beat giggle;

And I'm guessing if you get beat you'll start crying and hate the game.

Quote from: Runner Up: Strongbutt on January 27, 2011, 05:39:01 PM
People just say this because they are sick of getting beat giggle;

when people start playing competitively, do they automatically lose sight of the fact that most competitive players are total douches?

it's a bad community that's incredibly ignorant of the ability to have fun. not saying you're like that, just saying...most tourneyfags are really, really annoying.

so it's certainly true that competitive players sometimes suck the fun out of a game - but sometimes not. just depends on who you're with, and what the game is.

Quote from: Runner Up: Strongbutt on January 27, 2011, 05:39:01 PM
People just say this because they are sick of getting beat giggle;

If that's what you want to believe.  Playing a game with a friend is fun, but adding 'srs bisness' by making it a competition is just boring. 

Best character in the smash series was DK til they fucked him up in Brawl.

Quote from: Lookout, it's fucking Not Sid! on January 27, 2011, 05:48:38 PM
Best character in the smash series was DK til they fucked him up in Brawl.

lol, no

DK can be really good, I've seen it done plenty of times.

I never liked him much though, personally. Too big of a target, for one thing.

I was terrible at Melee, but my favorite character was Samus.  Sheik was my second best. 5thgrade;

i've put more time into brawl than any other ssb game so i'm better at it, though i'm still terrible compared to other players befuddlement

i like game & watch goowan

Quote from: Pam on January 27, 2011, 05:57:26 PM
though i'm still terrible compared to other players befuddlement

me too akudood;

i love mr game and watch in brawl


i played brawl 2 much 2 go back to melee

Quote from: Panty on January 27, 2011, 06:02:16 PM
i like game & watch goowan

black power

and I couldn't be touched with Dk in Melee, also I was good with Marth and Dr. Mario.

Quote from: Panty on January 27, 2011, 06:02:16 PM
i like game & watch goowan

me too akudood;

i liked him too actually goowan

but there are so many more characters i'm compatible with in brawl :'(

im a mr game and watch GOd. IBITCH FUCK WITH ME

Quote from: Lookout, it's fucking Not Sid! on January 27, 2011, 07:16:41 PM
black power

and I couldn't be touched with Dk in Melee, also I was good with Marth and Dr. Mario.

shit, i forgot about dr mario

Quote from: villinman666 on January 27, 2011, 06:06:39 PM
i played brawl 2 much 2 go back to melee

i know what you mean

melee might play a little better but it just has less befuddlement

Quote from: Panty on January 27, 2011, 07:32:53 PM
i know what you mean

melee might play a little better but it just has less befuddlement

if they took out the  smash ball replaced lucario with mewtwo  roy/ike  bring pichu back in  it be a truely better

pichu sucks

guys we need raichu.

Quote from: Presea on January 27, 2011, 07:36:41 PM
pichu sucks

you go fuck yourself and go suck black dicks like man looking

Quote from: Tyler on January 27, 2011, 05:42:45 PM
And I'm guessing if you get beat you'll start crying and hate the game.

No doodthing;
I play this game a lot and I lose a lot. My friend Danny beats me like 70% of the time, but honestly when I play, I'm playing to improve my game, not to win. Sure, it's fun to win, but I get a lot less satisfaction from winning than I do for pulling off a good technique or combo.

Quote from: Presea on January 27, 2011, 05:44:25 PM
when people start playing competitively, do they automatically lose sight of the fact that most competitive players are total douches?

it's a bad community that's incredibly ignorant of the ability to have fun. not saying you're like that, just saying...most tourneyfags are really, really annoying.

so it's certainly true that competitive players sometimes suck the fun out of a game - but sometimes not. just depends on who you're with, and what the game is.

This is just my opinion, so feel free to disagree with me, but I only have good things to say about the Melee community. I spend a LOT of time lurking Smash Boards (biggest Smash Bros. forums, where people post about major tournys, etc), and there are very thorough guides, and if somebody is asking for help and can't be assisted with a stickied topic, people are more than willing to help.

Don't get me wrong, it's not like I don't respect people who don't play Smash competitively or anything, I just enjoy it competitively more. I feel like multiplayer games are made for their competitive nature, and with Smash especially, the better you get and the better your opponent gets, the more fun the games are. I enjoy Smash way more now than I did before I started playing excessively and researching advanced techniques.

Quote from: Hurluberlu on January 27, 2011, 05:44:55 PM
If that's what you want to believe.  Playing a game with a friend is fun, but adding 'srs bisness' by making it a competition is just boring. 

I'm saying "Competitive Smash" because we are starting to play at a level above most players. It's still just my friends and I. Sometimes we'll have 6 people in my room (bottom 2 drop out each game) and most of them are awful, but it's still really fun. We do have plans to go to tournaments in the future, but we want to up our game more first.

I find it funny how "Competitive Super Smash Bros." is such a controversial thing. Not necessarily in this thread, but in general. People just play how they want to play, if you don't like it, don't play that way.

it's a game about a fat italian plumber fighting a pink vacuum monster and an electric mouse

Lots of memories with SSBM. Played it all the time as a kid.

Always stuck with Yoshi. I am awesome with him.

Well, at least I used to be. akudood;

I love smash and sometimes wish I still played Melee, but I can't go back to the days of air dodging and then being helpless in the air. Terrible. I can go back to the original, but Melee is so foreign to me now that I fear I might actually lose if I played it. I prefer to play Brawl because I enjoy crushing the egos of anyone who thinks they're hot shit n_u

Not as good as I used to be because I'm out of practice, but I'm still pretty damn good and I don't usually like to brag girl;

Quote from: Presea on January 27, 2011, 04:59:39 PM
Whenever I actually do play it, which is rare, Samus is generally my go-to girl. She's kind of overpowered I know, but hey, use what you got right? And honestly in my experience missile spam is a really shitty tactic anyway lol. And I think everyone's wised up to the ol' fire a missile then immediately fire off a charged beam shot thing.

In my opinion Samus is one of the worst characters in the smash series, particularly in the original and in Brawl. Samus kind of signifies the casual SSB player to me because they fall in love with her charge beam and how it can blast someone off the stage. If I ever get hit with one I feel extremely embarrassed girl;

But yeah, personally I'd rather have Ganondorf or Zelda over Samus any day even though they're typically lower tier; mostly because of her terrible, terrible up smash

I used to rape with fox. Actually I just raped non competitive smashers. I think I would win every game against people who were just regular gamers and was probably very close to not winning anything in real tournaments with people who knew advanced techs. basically I was that kid who could impress my neighborhood but in the back of my head i knew i was never really that good ;_;

i really don't see how smash bros. is designed to be anything but a party game

And Twister was designed to be good clean fun, but look how that turned out akudood;

Quote from: Panty on January 28, 2011, 01:43:35 AM
i really don't see how smash bros. is designed to be anything but a party game

Just about any game with multiplayer that doesn't suck has a decent competitive scene behind it. It is what you make of it. When I play Melee I see a ton of depth that I don't see in many other games. That's just me, but I really enjoy exploring new techniques and getting better. It's just about the only game that I can think of where I actually want to get better for the sake of getting better.

it must be the adderall

not really, Strongbad's feelings are perfectly legitimate

the whole reason I obsess over Mirror's Edge is that I've gotten really good at it - most other people would think it's a mediocre game at best

we get better at something, we like it more, and we like to prove how good we are.

I played Smash Bros. for about 5 years or so competitively, I mained Cpt.Falcon. The scene around Europe is very weak now-a-days though and has been since around the release of Brawl.

I've been to around 9-10 European Tournaments, 9 British ones and 3 American ones. Even though I've won a few Euro tournaments and was one of the best in the UK; I wasn't exactly one of the world's best players (America's Scene has always been dominant in the game, far too strong of a scene over there for any other country to really compete to be amazing.)  but I'm knowledgeable of the game and how it works though.

People don't seem to understand just how deep Smash is as a game, especially Melee. Prediction in that game is so diverse at a high level play that it's almost impossible to fully read someone.

It's all about option selects (what would be the safest thing to do until you have a chance to get momentum flowing along with baiting a reaction out of people.) and having good reactions for Directional Influence. Wavedashing has never been needed (look up Aniki for proof, one of Japan's best players who mained Link (Low tier) and could take Ken in his prime.) but L-Cancelling was always needed, it just made the game so fast paced in terms of what the programmers had anticipated that it unlocked a lot of combo potential in a lot of characters. Especially Marth, Sheik and Cpt.Falcon. JCG (Jump Cancel Grabs) are a must also, I always overlook JCG when talking about adv. techs in the game due to it being a natural reflex once you learn it. Moonwalk with some characters is also a must, especially Falcon and Mewtwo. (See Taj videos on Youtube for mewtwo.) I think the thing I had the hardest time learning was power shielding (shield 3 frames before impact, I think it's 3 frames, correct me if I'm wrong.) and Edge Teching, like JCG though it becomes natural reflex after you learn it.

D.I is probably the most difficult thing to learn and get good at just because you have to think about it, it's a huge mindgame factor.

I'm not really sure how "competitive" you are as in if you've looked into finding people around you who are amazing and could teach you - but if you're interested in playing in tournaments etc look up people on Smash Boards in your region, the Smash community is renowned for being one of the friendliest in competitive fighting game scenes, being one higher than Street Fighter.

Last tournament I watched before quitting because of the scene in Europe falling apart:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INgI5BEbjNk[/youtube]

I NOW PLAY STREET FIGHTER BUT I STILL LOVE ME SOME MELEE ;~;

SPOILERS: none of these "advanced techs" (which aren't even supposed to be in the game) are necessary to enjoy or play smash bros.

i don't think they're arguing against that, nyerp

we weren't, but half of them are actually put into the game by the designers. The only ones that aren't supposed to be in the games are: Wavedashing and Moonwalking and JCG. The rest all existed in 64, and I think still exist in Brawl even if it's not in the same concept.

nyerp you are such a lifeless fuck

and you're the baby who can't stop pestering me cjlubdoods;

Quote from: Panty on January 28, 2011, 09:52:35 PM
and you're the baby who can't stop pestering me cjlubdoods;

dont get ur pantys in a knott

lol fag

Going to my first tournament this Saturday. I'm really excited and i feel pretty prepared.
I've gotten significantly better over the last month. I really wish I had a capture card so I could take gameplay videos and get critiqued, but oh well. Right now my friend and I are dabbling in directional influence and crouch canceling and shit they're fucking hard to impliment correctly. But we're at a good spot, we've mastered just about every other kind of technique.
My only worry for the tournament is that I have very limited experience playing against most characters, simply because my friend Danny is my only competition, so unless I'm playing against Samus, Link or CF (Danny's best characters, emphasis on Samus since 80% of our games are Samus vs. Marth) I'll be fucked. That means that any Fox, Marth, Shiek or Falco player will fuck me over, considering they're popular characters that I have virtually no experience against.

Regardless I am excited hocuspocus;

Quote from: MF Doom on March 31, 2011, 12:09:21 PM
Going to my first tournament this Saturday. I'm really excited and i feel pretty prepared.
I've gotten significantly better over the last month. I really wish I had a capture card so I could take gameplay videos and get critiqued, but oh well. Right now my friend and I are dabbling in directional influence and crouch canceling and shit they're fucking hard to impliment correctly. But we're at a good spot, we've mastered just about every other kind of technique.
My only worry for the tournament is that I have very limited experience playing against most characters, simply because my friend Danny is my only competition, so unless I'm playing against Samus, Link or CF (Danny's best characters, emphasis on Samus since 80% of our games are Samus vs. Marth) I'll be fucked. That means that any Fox, Marth, Shiek or Falco player will fuck me over, considering they're popular characters that I have virtually no experience against.

Regardless I am excited hocuspocus;

The characters you don't have any experience against are the characters that occur the most in tournament. ESPECIALLY the space animals. Marth has a good matchup against them though, take a tip from Ken (King of Smash) and use Counter on really agressive Falco's when you know they just wanna go crazy on yo' ass.

First tournaments are a critical point, especially if you get beat badly and lose in pools. Your seeds will decimate you most likley, but it'll be good for you to understand what top level play is like, even then, Washington isn't that strong of a scene unless the NorCal/SoCal boys are visiting. (or at least it never used to be when I played.)

If you get beat badly, look back at the matches in your mind and figure out what you're doing wrong. If you come across another Marth, play it safe, space your tippers and pivot whenever you can. Light shield the edge also (so you tumble off and grab it before the Marth can), really really works on Marth, especially in NTSC. This is coming from a Falcon player, and that's our ONLY way to deal with Marth's recovery other than kneeing him in the face before he does dolphin slash, so learn it.

If you get the chance in future, go to NorCal and play SS. He's such a fucking bro for teaching people it's unreal. One of the main reason's he's good to learn from (which I'm sure you already know though.) is that he was taught by Isai, and Isai was a fucking beast in his prime and always teamed with Ken, or at least, 99% of the time they teamed.


Also I bet when you get home you'll feel the "SMASH CRASH" from being up nearly all hours of being at the tournament and when you do sleep, being uncomfortable as fuck and being in a room full of 16-30 year olds, it's a horrible oder.

^^^^^this is why i hate fighting games

Quote from: Kyo on April 02, 2011, 05:47:26 PM
^^^^^this is why i hate fighting games

Seriously.  People who take them way too seriously take all the fun out of them.

but they don't take all the fun out of it for you, so who cares? let them do what they want.

Quote from: Jykehy on April 02, 2011, 05:51:06 PM
Seriously.  People who take them way too seriously take all the fun out of them.

It's the people who take them "too seriously" that keeps the publisher making more - you wouldn't have Brawl, MVC3 or Street Fighter IV without us.

Quote from: Volvagia on April 03, 2011, 05:20:23 AM
It's the people who take them "too seriously" that keeps the publisher making more - you wouldn't have MVC3 or Street Fighter IV without us.

ftfy

Yesterday I had my first melee tournament, it was fucking awesome. Played with some of the best people on the West coast and obviously got rocked, but we didn't get embarrassed or anything. I was usually able to 1 or 2 stock people. But I got a ton of great tips and can't wait for the tourny next month.

Aaawwwhhh yeah pro gaming

Quote from: Volvagia on April 03, 2011, 05:20:23 AM
It's the people who take them "too seriously" that keeps the publisher making more - you wouldn't have Brawl, MVC3 or Street Fighter IV without us.

Right, because people who play them to have fun don't spend money of them.  Wait.  n_u

Quote from: Jykehy on April 03, 2011, 11:40:15 AM
Right, because people who play them to have fun don't spend money of them.  Wait.  n_u

No, but they won't spend money on hundreds of thousands upon DLC and the cost of applying a patch. I don't think you've read the article that states MVC3 only exists because of the competitive gamers that took it seriously for tens of thousands of dollars at EVO every year. Most people (probably yourself is included in this list) buy a fighting game, play it for a month or less, and only touch it every now and again. The people that are online every day buying DLC or attending tournaments where producers of the games attend and even commentate on matches or putting quarters into machines at arcades are the people that keep the games alive.

Quote from: MF Doom on April 03, 2011, 11:19:30 AM
Yesterday I had my first melee tournament, it was fucking awesome. Played with some of the best people on the West coast and obviously got rocked, but we didn't get embarrassed or anything. I was usually able to 1 or 2 stock people. But I got a ton of great tips and can't wait for the tourny next month.

Aaawwwhhh yeah pro gaming

Guessing you played Mango/HBOX/Dr.Peewee/SilentSpectre/Zhu then? (Assuming some of them at least.)

None of those guys, from my understanding they all live in Cali. The most notable people that I played were Ciz and Bladewise. There were a few others, I'll have to look them up.

Quote from: Volvagia on April 03, 2011, 05:20:23 AM
It's the people who take them "too seriously" that keeps the publisher making more - you wouldn't have Brawl, MVC3 or Street Fighter IV without us.

david and nyerp don't even play fighting games anyway, so it's not like they care that games like mvc3 and sf4 exist

And to people who are bitching about competitive super smash bros or whatever the stupid argument is, who gives a shit? EVERY game with a decent multiplayer component has people who are really really good and know how to play the game better than you. A handful of those games have competitive scenes where people take it really seriously. Regardless of the game, you can play it however the fuck you want. If you want to play Smash seriously, go on smashboards, learn how to do advanced techniques and how to implement them into your gameplay. If you don't want to play it seriously, just don't do that and play normally. I don't see why there is any argument.

because everything must be an argument

This is boyah, we're going to argue until we drive off every member but one who shall be crowned the ultimate Boyager

Yup, I used to play Melee everday.

I've misplaced my copy and I haven't played it in a long long time, I played brawl today though.

As far as competitive fighting goes Melee has brawl beat but overall I think I like brawl a smidge more.

I used Marth and Fox, I was pretty good too.

Quote from: Volvagia on April 03, 2011, 05:20:23 AM
It's the people who take them "too seriously" that keeps the publisher making more - you wouldn't have Brawl, MVC3 or Street Fighter IV without us.

Brawl was NOT made with the hardcore fighting game fan in mind in the slightest. None of the smash games were, Sakurai didn't release Melee thinking it would have the kind of depth it would which is why they went out of their way to water down Brawl.

Quote from: Kid on January 27, 2011, 04:59:39 PM
I'm not even particularly great at Smash and I totally agree that Melee is the best in every conceivable way. I wish I had people to play it with, I really do. If Boyagers ever got together, Melee would occur.

Whenever I actually do play it, which is rare, Samus is generally my go-to girl. She's kind of overpowered I know, but hey, use what you got right? And honestly in my experience missile spam is a really shitty tactic anyway lol. And I think everyone's wised up to the ol' fire a missile then immediately fire off a charged beam shot thing.

I think I just use Samus the most because Metroid is my favorite game series ever and Samus by conjunction is one of the coolest characters ever created.

I also enjoy using Pikachu and Young Link a lot. Young Link used to be pretty much my main, but not as much anymore.

lol

Samus isn't anywhere near OP.

Quote from: Tyler on January 27, 2011, 05:42:45 PM
And I'm guessing if you get beat you'll start crying and hate the game.

Actually, aside from SSFIV ranked matches (losing multiple games in a row puts you in a hole and you have to be winning over 50% of the matches you play to advance in rank sucks.) I don't mind losing in the slightest, and neither does the average competitive player if there's not too much riding on it. You learn from it.

I've been recently playing smash with a friend and we both can barely wave dash. Definitely the best smash. I like to play as Samus or Ness.

UPDATE
I think I'm transitioning to Shiek as my main.

i think i am going to start recording my matches for critique on smashboards, but i'll probably post them here too for the hell of it.

those of you who play should do the same as well

sheik is like auto victory. ...

Quote from: villinman666 on April 11, 2011, 02:39:54 PM
sheik is like auto victory. ...

People say that for most top tier characters (and marth). Technical skill always comes out on top over character advantages (well, unless you're dealing with bottom tier, but nobody plays them lol).

Since when did someone need skiill to play SSBM?  huhdoodame;

Quote from: Kefka on April 11, 2011, 04:33:41 PM
Since when did someone need skiill to play SSBM?  huhdoodame;

When you go from playing it like a party game to playing it seriously :)

real men use items

Quote from: Kyo on April 11, 2011, 04:58:33 PM
real men use items

^^^^^^

Quote from: Kyo on April 11, 2011, 04:58:33 PM
real men use items

seriously :'(

Quote from: MF Doom on April 11, 2011, 04:15:49 PM
People say that for most top tier characters (and marth). Technical skill always comes out on top over character advantages (well, unless you're dealing with bottom tier, but nobody plays them lol).

using low tier char adds humiliation to your victories. become good with low tiers embarrass the high tiers.

Quote from: Kyo on April 11, 2011, 04:58:33 PM
real men use items

Not in a competitive setting giggle;

what's the point in competing if you're not using the game's full capabilities

Quote from: Kyo on April 11, 2011, 09:47:44 PM
what's the point in competing if you're not using the game's full capabilities

derp without us casual players you wouldn't have those items.  bow down to us

Super Smash Bros is the game I least expect to be played competitively   akudood;

Quote from: Kyo on April 11, 2011, 09:47:44 PM
what's the point in competing if you're not using the game's full capabilities

Because those capabilities hinder the game's competitive edge, which is what makes it so fun giggle;

they what now

They make the game too random based upon their spawn locations. By taking them out you ensure there's no divine intervention

items are the way the developers intended ~_^

Quote from: Kyo on April 11, 2011, 11:42:59 PM
items are the way the developers intended ~_^

BUT IT RUINS THE COMPETITIVE EDGE, MY GOD, I JUST LOST TO N00B IN SSBB, TIME TO SMASH SHIT AUGHGHGHGHGH

Quote from: Jykehy on April 11, 2011, 11:45:23 PM
BUT IT RUINS THE COMPETITIVE EDGE, MY GOD, I JUST LOST TO N00B IN SSBB, TIME TO SMASH SHIT AUGHGHGHGHGH

I really don't see the problem :/
Items are fun to play with. If you're playing competitively however, you turn them off. When it comes to anything of a competitive nature you want to eliminate as many things as possible that can give a random advantage. If you don't want to play that way, don't play that way. Shit dude.

it sometimes fun to fight with out items ?? ?Even "casually" ? ? ?

y is half of this forum giving a damn about what games are played competitively or not    like who cares lol.  i dont play competivitly but i read this thread "is this real life" that is what i say to yall posts.

i dk when i paly i just try tpo loook up peach ' 's scirt.. .. ..                .

i try to look up samus jump suit.

I use pikachu and freeze frame attacking samus in the original SSB

Quote from: YPR on April 12, 2011, 03:36:50 PM
I use pikachu and freeze frame attacking samus in the original SSB

me too thumbup;

Quote from: Kotomaru on April 11, 2011, 11:45:23 PM
BUT IT RUINS THE COMPETITIVE EDGE, MY GOD, I JUST LOST TO N00B IN SSBB, TIME TO SMASH SHIT AUGHGHGHGHGH

what on earth lol

your extreme anti-strongbad-ness is getting a little out of hand

going to another tourny on may 7th
my sheik play isn't as good as my marth play, but i think i'd rather be a sheik main. i realized how fucked i am not knowing how to JCG, so my goal before the tourny is to figure them out somewhat

Whoa just started doing JCG yesterday and they're super easy. I wish I would have started using them earlier, my game would be a lot better by now.

Quote from: Snowy on April 28, 2011, 09:59:59 AM
JCG?

Jump Cancelled Grabs. Before you jump, there's a small amount of lag where you can do anything and it will cancel that jump and preform the new action. So if you're dashing, jump, and then grab within that spot of lag, you will preform your standing grab from a dash instead of your dashing grab. This is important because a characters standing grab usually has more range and is much less punishable than a dashing grab.

Quote from: Yusuke on April 11, 2011, 09:47:44 PM
what's the point in competing if you're not using the game's full capabilities

you are using it to its full capabilities

its full capability to allow you to play however the FUCK YOU WANT

sheik is so fucking awesome
forward tilt, FAIR
Down Throw, up tilt or forward tilt, FAIR
FAIR FAIR FAIR SO FUCKING GOOD

I suck at up tilts, they either become smash moves or jumps :'(

Quote from: YPR on May 01, 2011, 07:04:09 PM
I suck at up tilts, they either become smash moves or jumps :'(

i had the same problem with just about all of my tilts. it's all about getting the muscle memory down in your fingers, but man it's a pain in the ass. totally worth it though

ew i always make it so that only x/y are jump

Hm, maybe I should just turn it off... I only use x/y to intentionally jump as well

i don't think you can turn it off in melee

Melee's the only smash game I currently lack at college so that's ok as far as Brawl goes.

Melee's actually the hardest to readjust to as well so I'm more hesitant to play that one when showcasing my SSB talent because I know those who play Melee exclusively will take advantage of me gonk;

Quote from: MF Doom on May 01, 2011, 06:54:01 PM
sheik is so fucking awesome
forward tilt, FAIR
Down Throw, up tilt or forward tilt, FAIR
FAIR FAIR FAIR SO FUCKING GOOD

inb4 someone knows how to fight sheiks and di's properly.

Sheik's play style is very aggressive, yet has to be annoying as fuck when theres space between you and the other character. Needle traps are amazing, especially on the edge. (Stealing their jump with needles, causing them to die due to UP+B being out of range from the edge.)

Spacing on your fairs has to be really good when playing against Marth and Falco.

Play a character cause' you like them, not cause they're good.

Jiggs never used to be top of the tier until Mango proved how good she was, Sheik used to be queen/king (depending on whatever you fanboys/girl want to say.) of the tier.

Quote from: Volvagia on May 02, 2011, 06:31:42 PM
inb4 someone knows how to fight sheiks and di's properly.

Sheik's play style is very aggressive, yet has to be annoying as fuck when theres space between you and the other character. Needle traps are amazing, especially on the edge. (Stealing their jump with needles, causing them to die due to UP+B being out of range from the edge.)

Spacing on your fairs has to be really good when playing against Marth and Falco.

Play a character cause' you like them, not cause they're good.

Jiggs never used to be top of the tier until Mango proved how good she was, Sheik used to be queen/king (depending on whatever you fanboys/girl want to say.) of the tier.

I do like sheik a lot, being better at a character directly contributes to how much fun you seem to have with them most of the time.
And yeah I'm sure my basic sheik strategies aren't pro level and are easily countered, but the little combos are so much fun giggle;

started playing again seriously after a 3ish month hiatus (summer).
Been playing a lot of Shiek, kind of moving away from Marth. Also playing a little Fox.

I love melee so much <3

We play a lot of Melee in the dorm. I main C. Falcon because I like to knee the shit out of everybody.

Idk how good i am. I can wavedash but I don't implement it into my play. I can short hop well though and i l-cancel n' shit.

Every Saturday I play Brawl with this RSO at the college and even though melee is obviously the better smash I just have more fun with brawl. More characters that I can enjoy playing as. Really in Melee the only characters that I really like being are C. Falc, Marth, Sheik, and sometimes Fox and Falco. With Brawl it's pretty much everybody.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXgpGBbh5r8
really really really great video for those of you interested in what it takes to become a pro ssbm player

So I started a SSBM club at my university with a friend of mine, and while waiting for the club approval to go through, we hosted a smashfest at my friend's house yesterday. 3 TV's, one for doubles, two for singles. It was hella fun. I'm stoked to have more people than just my friend to play with.

Also my Marth is getting pretty sweet. Starting to use Dashdancing JCGs and Chaingrabbing have made me significantly better giggle;

Quote from: Snowy Bear Killer, Nord of the North on November 14, 2011, 10:04:45 AM
I've only ever been able to wavedash once.

I was so impressed with myself.

practice practice practice
so satisfying to implement it into your gameplay successfully

for the longest time my strategy with marth was wavedash away from any attack and then forward smash. it still works 100% of the time for people who don't know how to play smash lols

I MAIN JP NOW
WALL OF PAIN BITCHES

Marth's my main. I loooove Fire Emblem.

Melee is the best Smash imo just because it's more fast-paced and balanced. Brawl is way more slower and has beefed up fighters with 1-hit KOs (IKE)

Quote from: AegisReflector on December 05, 2011, 09:24:47 AM
and has beefed up fighters with 1-hit KOs (IKE)

what the fuck are you talking about?

Quote from: Nyerp on December 05, 2011, 12:28:21 PM
what the fuck are you talking about?

Quote from: Snowy on December 05, 2011, 12:41:40 PM
lol

uh but it's true that Ike's smash attacks are ridiculously overpowered and can often 1-hit KO with very little damage previously done to an opponent

not sure why aegis's comment was lol-some or confusing

ike is balanced because his triple jump is total bull shit

Quote from: silvertone on December 05, 2011, 04:26:14 PM
ike is balanced because his triple jump is total bull shit

and he's ridiculously slow

still, it is kind of retarded that an Ike player in a hectic 4-player match can basically just walk up to a fight between 2/3 others, charge up a smash attack halfway, and kill them all in a single blow

he might have shitty jumps and be really slow but i'm sorry, he is just too powerful

Ike needs at least ~30% damage to KO someone except for maybe jigglypuff, and there'd probably have to at least be a little bit of charge to that smash attack too. I don't think that's a one-hit KO any more than any other character's smash move. The only move that's close to a 1-shot from 0% is Ganondorf's aerial spike

Ike is terribly slow so I wouldn't say anything of his is overpowered. In a 4 person free for all he can get some cheap kills, sure, but 1 on 1 he's not too bothersome.

Quote from: Hatsune Miku on December 05, 2011, 04:27:44 PM
still, it is kind of retarded that an Ike player in a hectic 4-player match can basically just walk up to a fight between 2/3 others, charge up a smash attack halfway, and kill them all in a single blow

he might have shitty jumps and be really slow but i'm sorry, he is just too powerful

Peripheral vision? If he kills 2-3 people by just walking up they're pretty stupid lol

You could say the same about Falcon's or Ganondorf's punches really.

yeah it's basically during 3/4-player matches that i think he's overly cheap

1-on-1 he's no big deal obviously, but i still think it's annoying that a character can KO that easily to begin with...same goes for characters like Ganondorf. i just hate these kinds of characters.

gannon dorf is the best because you have a sword but don't utilize it

Quote from: Snowy on December 05, 2011, 04:33:47 PM
again, they're slow enough to no be a threat.

3/4 player matches against them isn't that if you know how to play keep-away.

Which is just walking from him. girl;

I STILL DON'T HAVE TO LIKE HIM

FUCK IKE

I wish my Wii worked so I could play some boyagers... I'd clean house with DK n_u

Dear Kaz,
You'll get no sympathy from me.

Sincerely,
Ike

Quote from: Snowy on December 05, 2011, 04:42:52 PM
I hope you play Chernobyl Kong.

What now? confuseddood;

Quote from: Snowy on December 05, 2011, 04:46:45 PM
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h57/TPitcher/Super%20Smash%20Bros%20Brawl/Recolors/DK-green.jpg)*~prepare yourself~*

Did they release recolors or something?

I only play yeti kong and sometimes black kong with yellow tie when I'm really serious. Rarely dark green kong

melee thread not brawl thread |:

Quote from: MF Doom on December 05, 2011, 06:51:02 PM
melee thread not brawl thread |:

stfu purist :|

Quote from: NPR on December 05, 2011, 07:06:52 PM
stfu purist :|

brawl sucks

>taking Super Smash bros seriously
ishygddt

Leave the poor kid alone. He doesn't have anything else to do.

Quote from: Kefka on December 05, 2011, 07:28:44 PM
>taking Super Smash bros seriously
ishygddt

lol it's no different than taking any other game seriously
taking games seriously in general is really silly imo but i am addicted to smash

Quote from: Bert Schnick on December 05, 2011, 07:30:04 PM
Leave the poor kid alone. He doesn't have anything else to do.

excuse me cutie

Quote from: MF Doom on December 05, 2011, 07:25:01 PM
brawl sucks

Combos are not necessary :|

Quote from: Snowy on December 05, 2011, 04:30:31 PM
It's easy enough to avoid him and out-speed him that he's no real threat if you know how he plays.

His sword has a long range though therefore he can basically rape any opponent not even remotely close to him. Just because he's slow doesn't mean he's not cheap.

Quote from: AegisReflector on December 06, 2011, 07:27:21 AM
His sword has a long range though therefore he can basically rape any opponent not even remotely close to him. Just because he's slow doesn't mean he's not cheap.

Learn to dodge confuseddood;

Quote from: NPR on December 06, 2011, 08:09:35 AM
Learn to dodge confuseddood;

That's not even remotely my point, but alright. Consider a novice who doesn't know how to dodge then.  doodthing;

Quote from: AegisReflector on December 06, 2011, 08:30:16 AM
That's not even remotely my point, but alright. Consider a novice who doesn't know how to dodge then.  doodthing;

then teach them how to dodge

Dodges don't always work, guys.

not knowing how to dodge is such a dumb excuse. you cant expect every character to be balanced without learning any techniques

Quote from: AegisReflector on December 06, 2011, 08:30:16 AM
That's not even remotely my point, but alright. Consider a novice who doesn't know how to dodge then.  doodthing;

Well then I'd say they're probably going to get raped by just about any character in the game n_u

Quote from: NPR on December 06, 2011, 10:28:10 AM
Well then I'd say they're probably going to get raped by just about any character in the game n_u

You can still win without dodging.

Quote from: AegisReflector on December 06, 2011, 10:30:50 AM
You can still win without dodging.

Nope

Quote from: NPR on December 06, 2011, 10:31:52 AM
Nope

Dude, I have a friend who rapes with Snake and he does it without even dodging attacks (Well, Snake CAN take a lot of damage and not be sent flying, but whatever) or projectiles. Sure, he jumps out of the way, but he never uses his shields.

You and your friend suck then

Quote from: MF Doom on December 05, 2011, 07:25:01 PM
brawl sucks

tripping

Quote from: Hatsune Miku on December 06, 2011, 01:29:36 PM
tripping

Oh yeah good point

That does provide moments of wtf this game sucks

smash bros. is a party game so i don't mind tripping that much it just adds to the wackiness and unpredictability happydood;

i actually did enjoy brawl more than enough with friends/family and played through the single-player and such and got the majority of those silly rewards and in general had a smashing good time

i mean i like the game but i agree with the general sentiment that melee is a hell of a lot better

Quote from: Nyerp on December 06, 2011, 01:37:18 PM
smash bros. is a party game so i don't mind tripping that much it just adds to the wackiness and unpredictability happydood;

sometimes it does this and sometimes it just pisses me off, depends on what kind of match i happen to be playing

so i wish you could turn it off.

Quote from: Nyerp on December 06, 2011, 01:37:18 PM
smash bros. is a party game so i don't mind tripping that much it just adds to the wackiness and unpredictability happydood;

I'd agree but I get pretty upset in Mario Party too n_u

Quote from: Hatsune Miku on December 06, 2011, 01:38:06 PM
i actually did enjoy brawl more than enough with friends/family and played through the single-player and such and got the majority of those silly rewards and in general had a smashing good time

i mean i like the game but i agree with the general sentiment that melee is a hell of a lot better

I can never go back to single air dodges cry;

i hate tripping and i think a lot of the decisions nintendo made for brawl were kind of stupid

but overall i still prefer it to melee :'(

brawl is a better party game and is more fun for casuals

melee is a much tighter, significantly more technical, and works way better competitively

those are my 3cents

Also I can never go back to melee kong. He's so much better in brawl it's ridiculous

Quote from: Nyerp on December 06, 2011, 01:37:18 PM
smash bros. is a party game so i don't mind tripping that much it just adds to the wackiness and unpredictability happydood;

(http://winspace.wikispaces.com/file/view/WOMBOCOMBO.gif)

WHERE YOU AT

On an unrelated note, my friend and I are hosting the first official meeting for WWU's Super Smash Bros Melee Club tonight. Fuck yeah

Quote from: MF Doom on December 07, 2011, 11:24:02 AM
(http://winspace.wikispaces.com/file/view/WOMBOCOMBO.gif)

WHERE YOU AT

Takes more skillz to land his knee in Brawl bro frankendood;

[spoiler]Which is sad saddood;[/spoiler]

Quote from: NPR on December 07, 2011, 12:02:00 PM
Takes more skillz to land his knee in Brawl bro frankendood;

[spoiler]Which is sad saddood;[/spoiler]

Don't belittle the wombo combo :(

Quote from: MF Doom on December 07, 2011, 12:03:38 PM
Don't belittle the wombo combo :(

Oh I wouldn't, I watch SSB videos all the time and it's still one of the greats n_u

Quote from: NPR on December 07, 2011, 12:19:01 PM
Oh I wouldn't, I watch SSB videos all the time and it's still one of the greats n_u

Good to hear. I'm so addicted to SSBM videos.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qna80MbcAAc[/youtube]
for anyone who hasn't seen it...

Those guys need to take a chill pill, but yeah, wonderful comeback n_u

Quote from: NPR on December 07, 2011, 12:27:25 PM
Those guys need to take a chill pill, but yeah, wonderful comeback n_u

Dude I would be equally stoked if I was in the audience

Quote from: MF Doom on December 07, 2011, 12:34:36 PM
Dude I would be equally stoked if I was in the audience

Excitement is one thing, screaming is another myface;

Quote from: NPR on December 07, 2011, 12:38:59 PM
Excitement is one thing, screaming is another myface;

People scream at football games doodthing;
I'll probably get yelled at for this analogy but I think that getting into e-sports is no different than regular sports.

Quote from: MF Doom on December 07, 2011, 12:43:42 PM
People scream at football games doodthing;
I'll probably get yelled at for this analogy but I think that getting into e-sports is no different than regular sports.

Yes, but football games take place outside or in gargantuan arenas with room for noise to dissipate.

The majority of the crowd here isn't the problem, it's the guy who sounds like he's trying to pass a kidney stone.

Quote from: NPR on December 07, 2011, 12:47:52 PM
Yes, but football games take place outside or in gargantuan arenas with room for noise to dissipate.

The majority of the crowd here isn't the problem, it's the guy who sounds like he's trying to pass a kidney stone.

I think he's into it a reasonable amount. But I also respect your opinion.

I think I'm going to start playing cfalc more. I played him a ton over break against my little brother and learned his basic techniques. He's way faster than other characters I've played, which makes him a lot more interesting

[spoiler]also KNEE EVERYTHING[/spoiler]

holy shit this game is over 10 years old @_@_@@_@_

Quote from: Travis on January 01, 2012, 03:44:00 PM
holy shit this game is over 10 years old @_@_@@_@_

@_@_@_@_@_@_@_@_@_@_@@_@_@_

Quote from: Travis on January 01, 2012, 03:44:00 PM
holy shit this game is over 10 years old @_@_@@_@_

YET IT'S STILL THE BEST FIGHTING GAME

Quote from: MF Doom on January 01, 2012, 03:54:23 PM
YET IT'S STILL THE BEST FIGHTING GAME

HAHAHAHAHA

Quote from: Kefka on January 01, 2012, 03:55:58 PM
HAHAHAHAHA

wats so funny. If you're insinuating that Marvel vs Capcom is better than you can go squat in the woods.

Quote from: Kefka on January 01, 2012, 03:55:58 PM
HAHAHAHAHA

Melee is so amazing as a competitive fighter

Quote from: Master Shake on January 01, 2012, 04:52:47 PM
wats so funny. If you're insinuating that Marvel vs Capcom is better than you can go squat in the woods.

hehehe

Quote from: Master Shake on January 01, 2012, 04:52:47 PM
wats so funny. If you're insinuating that Marvel vs Capcom is better than you can go squat in the woods.

im not insinuating nothing like that???

Quote from: Travis on January 01, 2012, 03:44:00 PM
holy shit this game is over 10 years old @_@_@@_@_

WAT

i'm old :(

So the Super Smash Bros. Melee Club that I started at my university had its first meeting  bassir;

(http://i.imgur.com/lWJMC.jpg)

id join

Quote from: Travis on January 07, 2012, 11:15:58 AM
id join

do it
it's pretty sweet

except one dude showed up with a sweet lcd tv and wii, but played brawl by himself and one other dude for the majority of the meeting until we needed his tv for the tournament. i should ban him

Quote from: MF Doom on January 07, 2012, 11:38:06 AM
do it
it's pretty sweet

except one dude showed up with a sweet lcd tv and wii, but played brawl by himself and one other dude for the majority of the meeting until we needed his tv for the tournament. i should ban him

you suck

Quote from: Nyerp on January 07, 2012, 02:34:51 PM
you suck

it's super smash bros melee club

Quote from: MF Doom on January 07, 2012, 02:58:25 PM
it's super smash bros melee club

is there a particular reason why it's restricted to that

Quote from: Thyme on January 07, 2012, 03:00:09 PM
is there a particular reason why it's restricted to that

melee's way better than brawl :|

Quote from: MF Doom on January 07, 2012, 02:58:25 PM
it's super smash bros melee club

So while reading over the Apex bracket for melee after hearing Justin Wong ask what was wrong with Apex when it came to the Capcom titles I came across a name Strongbad in pool 55, is this you? I don't recognize anyone from your pool from when I played, though I keep debating about who "L" is. There are a lot of old school players there, you should play some of them if this is you... especially Azen, this is probably either his return to the scene, or his final tournament.

EDIT: I'm retarded because I didn't do the research on Azen before I posted this, seems like has been playing lately, and Chillin, which is even more surprising considering he has a solid Sagat in SF, surprised he's playing Smash again. Good luck if it is you by the way, if you make it out of pools you'll have a really tough bracket ahead of you with these old school kids running around.

Quote from: Volvagia on January 07, 2012, 05:17:09 PM
So while reading over the Apex bracket for melee after hearing Justin Wong ask what was wrong with Apex when it came to the Capcom titles I came across a name Strongbad in pool 55, is this you? I don't recognize anyone from your pool from when I played, though I keep debating about who "L" is. There are a lot of old school players there, you should play some of them if this is you... especially Azen, this is probably either his return to the scene, or his final tournament.

EDIT: I'm retarded because I didn't do the research on Azen before I posted this, seems like has been playing lately, and Chillin, which is even more surprising considering he has a solid Sagat in SF, surprised he's playing Smash again. Good luck if it is you by the way, if you make it out of pools you'll have a really tough bracket ahead of you with these old school kids running around.

Lol I wish that was me. Strongbad's hella good. I'm nowhere near that level. I've improved significantly within the last year though. It's a really fun game competitively.

I'm really excited for Apex to start though. First big tournament to go on since I started watching tournament matches on youtube. I really wanna see Axe do well. His pikachu is fucking awesome

my friend is going
maybe you two should meet up and get married and make babies

Quote from: Clucky on January 07, 2012, 09:15:11 PM
my friend is going
maybe you two should meet up and get married and make babies

please be serious. thanks.

Quote from: kvltorion on January 08, 2012, 02:05:17 PM
please be serious. thanks.

but he is
he goes to rutgers  :(

Quote from: Thyme on January 07, 2012, 03:00:09 PM
is there a particular reason why it's restricted to that

His club, his rules

He's given his opinion on brawl many times, if he doesn't mind fewer members, that's his prerogative

Quote from: Thyme on January 07, 2012, 03:00:09 PM
is there a particular reason why it's restricted to that

Because on a competitive level they are very different games and I would rather focus my club on the competitive game that interested me even if it sacrifices higher turnout.

Your club doesn't have retarded "LOL FOX ONLY" rules does it

Quote from: Khadafi on January 08, 2012, 10:23:51 PM
Your club doesn't have retarded "LOL FOX ONLY" rules does it

That's not an actual rule.
But we do follow tournament rules (or at least encourage them), so 1v1, tournament maps, 4 stock, 8 minutes, no items.

What do you mean that's not an actual rule? 

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who play with rules that say you can only use certain characters (partially due to whining and partially because of things like Pikachu's hitbox) or limit it down to things like Final Destination and Battlefield. akudood;


Maybe it's not an actual rule in your club so that does answer my question.

Quote from: Khadafi on January 09, 2012, 11:15:24 AM
What do you mean that's not an actual rule? 

I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who play with rules that say you can only use certain characters (partially due to whining and partially because of things like Pikachu's hitbox) or limit it down to things like Final Destination and Battlefield. akudood;


Maybe it's not an actual rule in your club so that does answer my question.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=257229
Pretty sure what you're referring to doesn't exist.
Melee's pretty damn balanced for a competitive fighter, actually.

Although Metaknight is banned for competitive use in Brawl.
[spoiler]brawl sucks[/spoiler]

Quote from: MF Doom on January 09, 2012, 11:31:40 AM
Although Metaknight is banned for competitive use in Brawl.
[spoiler]brawl sucks[/spoiler]

The whole brawl scene sucks...  n_u

Can't believe some of them hate Melee when they see how much more fun it is for themselves at their tournaments.

Melee, the only competitive game where Bottom Tier can actually reach Top 8. I miss Taj's mewtwo so much in the scene.

Quote from: Volvagia on January 10, 2012, 11:11:15 AM
The whole brawl scene sucks...  n_u

Can't believe some of them hate Melee when they see how much more fun it is for themselves at their tournaments.

Melee, the only competitive game where Bottom Tier can actually reach Top 8. I miss Taj's mewtwo so much in the scene.

I've seen some videos of Taj's mewtwo. Whataballer

Also Axe's Pikachu is fucking sweet if we're talking about low teir play

Quote from: MF Doom on January 09, 2012, 11:31:40 AM
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=257229
Pretty sure what you're referring to doesn't exist.
Melee's pretty damn balanced for a competitive fighter, actually.

Although Metaknight is banned for competitive use in Brawl.
[spoiler]brawl sucks[/spoiler]

You linked to one where people ban certain stages which falls under the rules regarding the joke 'FOX ONLY. FINAL DESTINATION ONLY. NO ITEMS' which is what I was referring to.  akudood;


and you just cited an example of a character being banned in tourney rules. just not in the version of ssb you play akudood;


But your reaction to my question allows me to conclude the following answer: "We don't ban certain characters but we do ban certain stages and items".

Would this be correct?

not saying anything is wrong with it since some stages may reduce reliance on skill and throw in luck for certain players.

I only play final destination/battlefield and other such stages too... it's more fun usually.

Also fuck corneria and the free heals for lucas/ness madood;

Quote from: Khadafi on January 10, 2012, 02:57:56 PM
You linked to one where people ban certain stages which falls under the rules regarding the joke 'FOX ONLY. FINAL DESTINATION ONLY. NO ITEMS' which is what I was referring to.  akudood;


and you just cited an example of a character being banned in tourney rules. just not in the version of ssb you play akudood;


But your reaction to my question allows me to conclude the following answer: "We don't ban certain characters but we do ban certain stages and items".

Would this be correct?

not saying anything is wrong with it since some stages may reduce reliance on skill and throw in luck for certain players.

Banning stages is completely reasonable. If you're going to play a game competitively, you need to take out random elements. It's pretty damn frustrating when somebody pulls a good item during a game, and even if you are a better player, they get an extremely unfair advantage. That frustration is not fun, and if you take the game seriously, you would do everything in your power to eliminate any causes of this frustration. Hence no items and no stages that offer un-fair advantages.

Also it doesn't matter if Brawl bans stuff, since I created Super Smash Bros. Melee club, and I dislike Brawl.

oops didn't notice that you weren't arguing with me disregard this lol

HOW DOES THAT FEEL BOY

So i've mentioned that i started a ssbm club at my university
we had our weekly meeting last night, and this guy:
[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIAgW5-GvIs[/youtube]
(not m2k lol)[/spoiler]
showed up and basically destroyed everyone in the club. My friend (the other person in charge of the club) and myself were talking to him for a while and he really wants to train us and help us get to the next level of our play  O_0

fuck i really should decide on a main now.
i've dabbled in Marth, Jiggs, Shiek, CF, and Doc more than any other characters. i've been playing doc the most as of lately. so addicted to his bair gimping

but yeah guys melee lol

would i be kicked out of your club if I mained Kirby

Quote from: Kefka on January 20, 2012, 11:06:08 AM
would i be kicked out of your club if I mained Kirby

no but unless you were godly with kirby you would probably lose a lot

Daaaamn M2K was way too open to grabs in that one

Quote from: NPR on January 20, 2012, 11:52:15 AM
Daaaamn M2K was way too open to grabs in that one

Yeah, I thought the same thing.
although it's hard not to be against Samus, now that i think about it. That video is also from 2006, and I'm sure that the metagame has progressed a lot since then.

Okay lol nvm apparently the guy I met is a different Wes. Still a really good player, just not him apparently.

But shit these guys we've been playing with are so good. Just what I need to get my play to the next level.

maaaan this game gets a lot less fun when you're consistently playing with people who are better than you
there are so many things that i need to implement into my game if i want to get to the next level, like jabs, lightshielding (more), wavelanding more consistently (basically only a problem with doc. i'm pretty consistent with marth) and fucking DI on everything
and i have so many match-ups that i need to learn better. also i need to stop instinctively cc-ing peach's dsmash ugh

still really love melee though
i wish other boyagers played competitively :(

I have no idea as to what you just said 5thgrade;

yeah sorry none of that stuff actually exists

Quote from: Echo Weiss on February 15, 2012, 10:54:03 AM
I have no idea as to what you just said 5thgrade;

well my comboing would definitely improve if i did a better job implementing jabs, and especially against characters like falco who i play a lot, i would fare much better against shield pressure if i could use my light shield instinctively instead of going normal shield.
DI is  away to alter your character's trajectory after you get hit, which is a great way to get out of combos and survive longer at higher percentages (i.e. if you can aim your trajectory towards the upper corners of the screen, you won't die at times you would have if you went horizontally or vertically since the level cut-off distance is farther diagonally (think basic geometry)). DI is probably the thing that I need to implement the most, and it's just a matter of bashing the c-stick and normal stick a certain way, but there are multiple forms of DI and i can't do anything past basic DI consistently.

and for matchups, you can't play a falco the same way you'd play against a peach. you need to learn what attacks counter their approaches and attacks, what throw combos work at what percentages, and what approaches work. i'm alright against a few match-ups that i play consistently (marth v. cf, marth v. falco, cf v. marth) but i struggle a lot against high tier characters that i don't have a ton of practice against such as fox, which is horrible since a good fox is a fucking force to be reckoned with

cc-ing refers to crouch canceling, which happens when you hold down immediately after getting hit near the ground. your character will move towards and crouch on the ground, which is useful for staying on the level. however, if you crouch cancel peach's downsmash (which i do since i crouch cancel most attacks out of habit) you will get hit by almost every hit in the attack, which can give around 50% i believe

Quote from: Nyerp on February 15, 2012, 11:04:06 AM
yeah sorry none of that stuff actually exists

psh casual

I wish that I could challenge you boyagers to a game because I think I am really good at this game. Not in a way that girls say they are good at a game like smash bros or mario kart but I am a destroyer of men

Quote from: eeeeeee on February 15, 2012, 11:53:53 AM
I wish that I could challenge you boyagers to a game because I think I am really good at this game. Not in a way that girls say they are good at a game like smash bros or mario kart but I am a destroyer of men

lol, so glad i happened upon this thread.

Quote from: eeeeeee on February 15, 2012, 11:53:53 AM
I wish that I could challenge you boyagers to a game because I think I am really good at this game. Not in a way that girls say they are good at a game like smash bros or mario kart but I am a destroyer of men

lets do it
who is your main

Quote from: MF Doom on February 15, 2012, 12:23:35 PM
lets do it
who is your main

Sheik!! But I also enjoy play very much when Link, Young Link, Samus, DK, Pikachu, Peach, Samus, Roy & Fox
I play my brother most days in Super Smash Bros.  And everybody I mentioned is somebody who I probably use everyday. But I'm down to be anybody in that game. So fun.


My brother has been using Captain Falcon lately. But he really likes Pikachu, Fox & Ganondorf... And Link

Quote from: Socks on February 15, 2012, 12:00:45 PM
lol, so glad i happened upon this thread.

hocuspocus;

I went to an engineers' gamer party with my roommate (oh the nerdy shame) and they had melee...

I suck at melee. Dear god the one guy's falco was just unfair. It was like he was moving 3x my speed. Dr. Mario might not have been the best choice for my first time playing in forever myface;

Quote from: MF Doom on February 15, 2012, 10:42:02 AM
maaaan this game gets a lot less fun when you're consistently playing with people who are better than you
there are so many things that i need to implement into my game if i want to get to the next level, like jabs, lightshielding (more), wavelanding more consistently (basically only a problem with doc. i'm pretty consistent with marth) and fucking DI on everything
and i have so many match-ups that i need to learn better. also i need to stop instinctively cc-ing peach's dsmash ugh

still really love melee though
i wish other boyagers played competitively :(

Quote from: Echo Weiss on February 15, 2012, 10:54:03 AM
I have no idea as to what you just said 5thgrade;

Also, how do you even get involved with competitive Melee?

Quote from: Hippopo on February 15, 2012, 03:37:42 PM
Also, how do you even get involved with competitive Melee?

For me personally, I played a lot in the dorms last year. A friend of mine and myself decided to learn advanced stuff so we could destroy everyone else we played with. In doing this, we got really into melee (probably playing around 2 hours a day with just the two of us) and I started following competitive melee and browsing smash boards frequently.
Kind of funny actually, since I directly credit melee to my friendship with this individual, who is one of my best friends in college.

(http://i.imgur.com/4qxa7.png)
Regardless how you feel about rage faces, this was so awesome to see (a new member made it)

are you fucking serious right now

Quote from: Nyerp on February 16, 2012, 08:10:13 PM
are you fucking serious right now

so serious
melee is my lyfe

and it's better than your's

nyerp just stop looking at this thread

seriously every time you do, you'll see strongbad posting about his hardcore melee playing and such, which apparently frustrates you a lot, so you should probs just stop bothering to look in here

Quote from: Kaz on February 16, 2012, 08:27:52 PM
nyerp just stop looking at this thread

seriously every time you do, you'll see strongbad posting about his hardcore melee playing and such, which apparently frustrates you a lot, so you should probs just stop bothering to look in here

i'm seriously not just trying to be "hardcore"
i just really like talking about melee
i wish that people on boyah were more into it

Quote from: Nyerp on February 16, 2012, 08:10:13 PM
are you fucking serious right now

It's the internet. Don't worry about it

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAq8l3MCIF4[/youtube]
this is so fucking funny

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm8KUKEE5Rk[/youtube]
mother of god

installed project m today:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJHSVROUwyU[/youtube]

it's really fucking easy (doesn't even require a hacked wii, just a copy of brawl and an sd card) and makes brawl suck a lot less
playing with brawl characters is kind of weird but it's pretty sweet overall. i'm excited to bring it to melee club today to see what everyone thinks about it

You could always pick which form you start as? huhdoodame;

Quote from: Snowy on February 23, 2012, 09:33:12 AM
I personally use Brawl+ (though I've found no noticeable difference besides being able to pick which form you start as). But bring Brawl- for silly times. sillydood;

use project m to make brawl less brawly and therefore a better game

brawl- is pretty cool though

Quote from: Snowy on February 23, 2012, 10:47:53 AM
You couldn't directly pick Zero Suit Samus, etc.

You could if you held down a button...

And there aren't any other characters you couldnt directly select

Quote from: NPR on February 23, 2012, 11:49:29 AM
You could if you held down a button...

And there aren't any other characters you couldnt directly select

sheik
what he means is that you can select "sheik" in character select now instead of having to hold down the button

also pokemon trainer

Quote from: MF Doom on February 23, 2012, 01:31:31 PM
sheik
what he means is that you can select "sheik" in character select now instead of having to hold down the button

also pokemon trainer

you already can in the vanilla game.

Only for Zero Suit Samus, you have to hold the shield button between character select and stage select.

Zelda and Pokemon Trainer, when selected, show the other forms in the picture displayed at each player's colored rectangle thing. Clicking on one of the forms in that picture selects it, adding a white outline around the selected form and changing the selected character name.

I thought this was obvious confuseddood;

I don't know how Brawl+ handles what you consider direct character selection. Are Zero Suit Samus, Sheik, Squirtle, Ivysaur, and Charizard simply added to the main character list?

oh idk i don't play brawl i just assumed

i'm going to record some marth matches of mine for critique soon. i've been training a lot with people from my smash club and it's helping my game so much. i feel like i've improved more in the last month than in the last 5 months

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=14105548
FUCK YEAH GONNA BE FUCKING RAD
can't wait to see pp, axe and shroomed omg

driving down to nw manifest with my crew tomorrow :O
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=314896&

fuck i'm so excited.
gonna rock marth and hopefully make it out of pools
probably not though

Quote from: eeeeeee on February 15, 2012, 11:53:53 AM
I wish that I could challenge you boyagers to a game because I think I am really good at this game. Not in a way that girls say they are good at a game like smash bros or mario kart but I am a destroyer of men

fuck i got raped so bad
i need to practice more

gotta get into that metagame more

Did you get to get raped by pp

Quote from: NDDR on March 25, 2012, 11:51:57 PM
Did you get to get raped by pp

no i never played him
got raped by some pretty good players though
like gimpyfish's bowser :(

Quote from: ilovesloths on March 26, 2012, 10:36:41 AM
no i never played him
got raped by some pretty good players though
like gimpyfish's bowser :(

gimpyfish was the first melee player i ever watched :O

You should feel honored

in ssbm i just feel like it's not as "cushiony" as ssbb when playing

so i like ssbm more

Quote from: NDDR on March 26, 2012, 11:29:31 AM
gimpyfish was the first melee player i ever watched :O

You should feel honored

haha i guess
gimpy was really loud and pretty funny
it was cool watching people like s2j and pp though

[spoiler]i only ever play smash bros. with items on high and four other players and i prefer the more elaborate stages

i avoid the main fighting by hiding in some corner until two are eliminated and i'm left with just one severely weakened opponent i can more easily defeat

and that's how i win

i'm a horrible person goowan[/spoiler]

Quote from: Tectite on May 26, 2012, 08:12:21 PM
[spoiler]i only ever play smash bros. with items on high and four other players and i prefer the more elaborate stages

i avoid the main fighting by hiding in some corner until two are eliminated and i'm left with just one severely weakened opponent i can more easily defeat

and that's how i win

i'm a horrible person goowan[/spoiler]

everything was Fine until you said you Hide.


sorry but that is just bullshit. competitive or not. that is just straight up bullshit

Quote from: Tectite on May 26, 2012, 08:12:21 PM
[spoiler]i only ever play smash bros. with items on high and four other players and i prefer the more elaborate stages

i avoid the main fighting by hiding in some corner until two are eliminated and i'm left with just one severely weakened opponent i can more easily defeat

and that's how i win

i'm a horrible person goowan[/spoiler]

Yes, yes you are. At first I thought you were saying you didn't play at all since you needed four other players n_u

But it is okay because I can generally kill off the hiders' remaining lives regardless of my own. Or I just chase them with a vendetta the entire game, samus/zelda players I'm looking at you akudood;

Quote from: NDDR on May 26, 2012, 08:17:21 PM
Yes, yes you are. At first I thought you were saying you didn't play at all since you needed four other players n_u

well that's usually true too lol goowan

Quote from: NDDR on May 26, 2012, 08:17:21 PM
samus/zelda players I'm looking at you akudood;

oh god lol those are exactly who i play with, samus especially :( :( :(

Quote from: silvertone on May 26, 2012, 08:17:13 PM
everything was Fine until you said you Hide.


sorry but that is just bullshit. competitive or not. that is just straight up bullshit

i know, i'm the exact opposite of david lol cry;

i love using samus but hiding is boring lol

to me a good smash bros. match is as chaotic as possible and thus i want to be in the fray at all times

goowan

it doesnt really matter who wins or loses. it just about turning your friends into  Jabronies

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iTKxosywts&feature=relmfu[/youtube]
this is some quality fucking melee