the LEGEND of zelda

[Kalahari Inkantation]

SS manages to sidestep all of the timeline nonsense?

This is good news.

overall i'm still extremely disappointed that nintendo would take a theory that makes absolutely no sense and base their games on it for the sake of 'fans' who obviously can't think coherently and don't quite understand nintendo's development style

and i now fear for the future of the series

[Mando Pandango]

Well no, SS just manages to sidestep the split timeline bullshit by being the first game in the timeline.

[Nyerp]

yeah uh ss goes to great lengths to make SURE you know that it's a prequel to the rest of the series lol

[Kalahari Inkantation]

And this is how Ocarina of Time ruined the Zelda series beyond repair.

honestly oot isn't to blame

it makes perfect sense and there is no indication anywhere that there needs to be any sort of timeline splitting

it's just that 'fans' saw a crevice they could stuff with their idiotic fanfics and did exactly that

[Hiro]

You guys are terrible at explaining this. Tec, the timeline doesn't split because fans decided it should. The reason the timeline splits is because there is one world in OoT where Link disappears for 7 years, Ganondorf takes over, Link returns and defeats Ganon. The other timeline is created in the end of OoT where Link returns to the past and him and Zelda presumably stop Ganondorf there, preventing the previously mentioned series of events from happening. With this, Link leaves for Termina. This version is mentioned in TP, while in the other version Link is not there after defeating Ganon, allowing Ganon to somehow return, leading to Wind Waker.
Now I agree that that's all a bunch of bullshit and it hardly makes any sense. This allegedly real timeline is pretty damn stupid as well and they could have easily moved a few things around to make it one timeline, but honestly I don't think even Nintendo cares all that much about the timeline, they just want to somehow make things follow an order but it's not like the games are really being forced to fit into any area of a greater story, it's more like they just make a game and then fit it in later where it most makes sense, with the exceptions of the direct sequels.
Still, if this timeline really is true then there's a hell of a lot of stuff they can put between Skyward Sword and OoT, as well as after Phantom Hourglass, Spirit Tracks, Link's Awakening, Zelda II, Majora's Mask, or FSA. Again, basically anywhere that's not a direct sequel. Still not following the 3 branches idea though, I feel like that aspect was somehow mistranslated or something. ALttP can easily come after FSA, and really most of these games seem randomly-placed aside from the much-discussed OoT/MM/TP/WW/etc fork and having SS as the first.

[Hiro]

Legend of Zelda Windwalker FAQ

The Legend of Zelda: Windwalker is the sixth game in the Legend of Zelda series. This game does not take place in Hyrule, as previous games do. It is set on a group on islands on a large ocean and the protagonist goes from island to island in search of clues to the mystery of the Triforce.


Is it Windwalker or Wind Waker?
It is Wind Waker. The initial title of the game was Windwalker, but later changed to Wind Waker. Some Japanese copies have copies translated as Windwalker.

Do you Play Link?
Yes, but not the traditional Link from the other games. This Link lives with his sister and grandmother.

What is the Wind Waker?
It is a baton that changes the direction of the wind. It comes in handy throughout the game, particularly when you are on the boat traveling from island to island.

Is Ganon or Ganondorf Back?
Yes. Ganondorf comes back, though the original Link does not. He is the antagonist.

Is Zelda in this Game?
No. It is Link's sister that must be saved and not Zelda. She doesn't make an appearance anywhere, but is merely mentioned.

When does the Game Take Place?
It is set hundreds of years after the events of Ocarina of Time. There are many allusions to Ocarina of Time in Wind Waker.

[Nyerp]

You guys are terrible at explaining this. Tec, the timeline doesn't split because fans decided it should. The reason the timeline splits is because there is one world in OoT where Link disappears for 7 years, Ganondorf takes over, Link returns and defeats Ganon. The other timeline is created in the end of OoT where Link returns to the past and him and Zelda presumably stop Ganondorf there, preventing the previously mentioned series of events from happening. With this, Link leaves for Termina. This version is mentioned in TP, while in the other version Link is not there after defeating Ganon, allowing Ganon to somehow return, leading to Wind Waker.

i basically said all of this

yes, the timeline did "split" there according to the game's plot but it's pretty damn obvious that nintendo didn't originally intend for it to become actually incorporated into the series and just caved into the fans' whining, just like they did with this awful new mess of a timeline

[Mando Pandango]

[Hiro]

i basically said all of this

yes, the timeline did "split" there according to the game's plot but it's pretty damn obvious that nintendo didn't originally intend for it to become actually incorporated into the series and just caved into the fans' whining, just like they did with this awful new mess of a timeline

I know you said it all but it didn't seem like tec really understood it
i think the very idea of them making a timeline is them caving into fans whining so there's that

[The Hand That Fisted Everyone]

wait so where did tingle come from.

[Hiro]

[spoiler][/spoiler]

That's fucking terrible.
If the absence of Link in #3 let Ganon take over, why was his absence in #1 taken care of by the sages? Also, nothing ever says that happens for #1. The entire reason Link is gone for 7 years is BECAUSE the sages held him there. He never skips forward in time, he only gets held in another realm in a "sleep" or something, and then time travels BACK in time. Even if he did go forward in time, he goes to the point in time where Ganondorf has taken over, only to stop him. That doesn't somehow make a version where Ganondorf takes over and Link DOESN'T come out the other end of time-travel to stop him, that's just going into completely useless multiple dimension theories that have nothing to do with anything.

[snoorkel]

guys... Link's Awakening came first, all other 'timelines' non-continuous from that are simply other unrealized bubble universes inside the Wind Fish's / Triforce's / Golden Realm's potential memory, playing out backwards or forwards in different 'parallel universes' (this is why there appear to be many Links, many Zeldas, many Ganons, the same events recurring in every parallel) ... Link's Awakening itself is only a dream and doesn't represent any 'real' timeline or event that ever happened, only one variant of an archetypal tale of heroism and good/evil imagined by countless aspiring young men throughout the ages.

this does open the question, though, of what/where the original 'land of time' was and what went on there to impregnate the following hundreds of generations with these phylogenic archetypes that seem to so be dreamed about so easily. possibly one of the zelda games really is about that 'real' time, when the 'original' ganon, triforce, and sages were in hyrule?

[Kalahari Inkantation]

You guys are terrible at explaining this. Tec, the timeline doesn't split because fans decided it should. The reason the timeline splits is because there is one world in OoT where Link disappears for 7 years, Ganondorf takes over, Link returns and defeats Ganon. The other timeline is created in the end of OoT where Link returns to the past and him and Zelda presumably stop Ganondorf there, preventing the previously mentioned series of events from happening. With this, Link leaves for Termina. This version is mentioned in TP, while in the other version Link is not there after defeating Ganon, allowing Ganon to somehow return, leading to Wind Waker.

i understand that, but like nyerp said it's obvious that nintendo never intended for the first timeline to split off on its own (it doesn't make any sense whatsoever to place any of the current games there)

[Kalahari Inkantation]

Legend of Zelda Windwalker FAQ

The Legend of Zelda: Windwalker is the sixth game in the Legend of Zelda series. This game does not take place in Hyrule, as previous games do. It is set on a group on islands on a large ocean and the protagonist goes from island to island in search of clues to the mystery of the Triforce.


Is it Windwalker or Wind Waker?
It is Wind Waker. The initial title of the game was Windwalker, but later changed to Wind Waker. Some Japanese copies have copies translated as Windwalker.

Do you Play Link?
Yes, but not the traditional Link from the other games. This Link lives with his sister and grandmother.

What is the Wind Waker?
It is a baton that changes the direction of the wind. It comes in handy throughout the game, particularly when you are on the boat traveling from island to island.

Is Ganon or Ganondorf Back?
Yes. Ganondorf comes back, though the original Link does not. He is the antagonist.

Is Zelda in this Game?
No. It is Link's sister that must be saved and not Zelda. She doesn't make an appearance anywhere, but is merely mentioned.

When does the Game Take Place?
It is set hundreds of years after the events of Ocarina of Time. There are many allusions to Ocarina of Time in Wind Waker.

lolwaht

[Kalahari Inkantation]

[spoiler][/spoiler]

1. where or when is it ever even implied that could possibly have happened

ganon has seven years to roam around freely in link's absence but once that time is up, link returns to put an end to his shenanigans
nothing in oot ever suggests that 1 could have happened, THE LAST THING WE NEED IS MORE WORTHLESS FAN SPECULATION

2. ?????

3. nothing about wind waker requires it to take place in an alternate timeline

the oot -> mm -> ww sequence still fits perfectly into a single timeline