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Title: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 21, 2012, 06:59:06 PM
i swear to god
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: ncba93ivyase on June 21, 2012, 08:20:29 PM
euro music was okay during the 70s

there was good prog and krautrock
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: YPrrrr on June 22, 2012, 03:25:22 AM
Do you consider David Bowie mid-70s?
or the Clash
or Marvin Gaye
the Ramones
Blondie
Led Zeppelin
Kansas
Journey
Boston
Queen
Stevie Wonder
ACDC
The Who
Black Sabbath
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Earth Wind and Fire?
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: snoorkel on June 22, 2012, 03:59:26 AM
dub.reggae
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Samus Aran on June 22, 2012, 04:19:02 PM
Quote from: NDDR on June 22, 2012, 03:25:22 AM
Do you consider David Bowie mid-70s?
or the Clash
or Marvin Gaye
the Ramones
Blondie
Led Zeppelin
Kansas
Journey
Boston
Queen
Stevie Wonder
ACDC
The Who
Black Sabbath
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Earth Wind and Fire?


i think Bowie's best album is "Heroes" which is 77 so sure...Low is also from that year

Clash is consistently good

Gaye is eh

Ramones good but not great

Blondie is lame

i used to be a huge Ledhead, but not so much anymore. either way, they had already gone majorly downhill by the mid 70s. all their best material was recorded in the early 70s and late 60s.

Kansas sucks dude wtf. two decent "hits," everything else is either bad or just okay. or awful, sometimes.

Journey is boring. besides, they didn't really record stuff that anyone knows until like 78 or so.

Boston is better than Journey but outside a few great hits they're pretty boring too

Queen is honestly one of the most overrated bands in the world imo. they are good and on a few occasions great but idk whatever. but at least their best stuff was indeed mid 70s.

idk enough about Stevie Wonder

AC/DC is boring mostly.

okay The Who is honestly one of the greatest rock bands in existence and it is shameful to include these other bands with them. nobody will agree with me on this as i am hte only huge Who fan here but idgaf. Quadrophenia is an amazing concept album from 73, which is i guess mid 70s so yeah. other than that though they were not super active in like 74-77 except for one meh album (Who By Numbers). they did not really come back until late 70s with Who Are You.

Black Sabbath is good but i honestly appreciate them more for being the inspiration for other bands, esp. doom/stoner metal bands like Sleep. some of their best stuff was from the mid 70s though, like Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and Sabotage. but idk, they are not one of my preferred bands from the era. they're good though.

Lynyrd Skynyrd is boring

Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: snoorkel on June 22, 2012, 04:40:22 PM
oh also Foreigner

[spoiler]and this
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mDumt9Nyes[/youtube][/spoiler]
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: [hedy]Zidone on June 22, 2012, 05:06:33 PM
Quote from: Kana Minami on June 22, 2012, 04:19:02 PM
Kansas sucks dude wtf. two decent "hits," everything else is either bad or just okay. or awful, sometimes.

Journey is boring. besides, they didn't really record stuff that anyone knows until like 78 or so.

Boston is better than Journey but outside a few great hits they're pretty boring too

These bands are representative of what I don't like about the 70s in music
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Samus Aran on June 22, 2012, 05:08:44 PM
Quote from: Zidone on June 22, 2012, 05:06:33 PM
These bands are representative of what I don't like about the 70s in music


pretty much same here lol

as well as the late 70s creating the emergence of hair metal, one of the worst movements in rock history...and in general, just a lot of "classic rock" that was cool in the 60s totally lost its steam in the mid 70s and became boring
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: snoorkel on June 22, 2012, 05:32:08 PM
wait waht's so bad about hair metal?
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on June 22, 2012, 07:03:23 PM
Quote from: Kana Minami on June 22, 2012, 04:19:02 PM
Gaye is eh

idk enough about Stevie Wonder

okay The Who is honestly one of the greatest rock bands in existence and it is shameful to include these other bands with them. nobody will agree with me on this as i am hte only huge Who fan here but idgaf. Quadrophenia is an amazing concept album from 73, which is i guess mid 70s so yeah. other than that though they were not super active in like 74-77 except for one meh album (Who By Numbers). they did not really come back until late 70s with Who Are You.
you need to listen to more soul and funk. Marvin Gaye is pretty damn good. I don't really care for Wonder.

also I think the best who songs were those two singles in the eighties. I listened to Who's Next and it seemed like generic arena rock. (though i really enjoyed baba o'reilly and i will play it at full volume.)

Also Also Fela Kuti was pretty damn active in the 70's.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnaeNiTPbFI[/youtube]

Parliament-Funkadelic were also pretty active. (like holy fucking shit)


Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Samus Aran on June 22, 2012, 08:26:09 PM
Quote from: N o t S i d on June 22, 2012, 07:03:23 PM
you need to listen to more soul and funk. Marvin Gaye is pretty damn good. I don't really care for Wonder.

also I think the best who songs were those two singles in the eighties. I listened to Who's Next and it seemed like generic arena rock. (though i really enjoyed baba o'reilly and i will play it at full volume.)



i do need to, yes

i don't really know what to tell you about The Who. i didn't care about them much at first, and my first album was Who's Next. i didn't really start loving them until i tried their concept albums, mostly Quadrophenia (Tommy is still great too, just not as great imo). and then a certain album called Live at Leeds cemented that love forever - it's probably the best live album of any "classic rock" band ever.

idk, it took me a while and a lot of listening to really get into them but i found it very rewarding, not going to try to convince anyone though
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: YPrrrr on June 23, 2012, 01:51:27 AM
I'll take the 70s, you can take anything from the 80s and I will hardly miss a thing
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 24, 2012, 11:50:31 AM
Quote from: NDDR on June 22, 2012, 03:25:22 AM
Do you consider David Bowie mid-70s?
or the Clash
or Marvin Gaye
the Ramones
Blondie
Led Zeppelin
Kansas
Journey
Boston
Queen
Stevie Wonder
ACDC
The Who
Black Sabbath
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Earth Wind and Fire?
all those bands are trash.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 24, 2012, 11:53:03 AM
i think i should have clarified and said "rock" music

like right after led zep got big and that "hard rock" thing became a "thing" a lot of really bad bands came around (ACDC being the defining moment of that "thing")

i wans't thinking of any of those bands when U posted that


and what did david bowie release in the mid seventies that was good  ?  ?

it was like alladin sane then he dipped into some ok pop shit and then made good music and then made more boring music.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Samus Aran on June 24, 2012, 12:14:10 PM
Quote from: Rogger on June 24, 2012, 11:53:03 AM
and what did david bowie release in the mid seventies that was good  ?  ?

it was like alladin sane then he dipped into some ok pop shit and then made good music and then made more boring music.


i think you really need to listen to the Berlin trilogy a bit more

they're essentially his mid 70s albums and they're fantastic, especially Heroes and Low
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 24, 2012, 12:18:00 PM
Quote from: Kana Minami on June 24, 2012, 12:14:10 PM
i think you really need to listen to the Berlin trilogy a bit more

they're essentially his mid 70s albums and they're fantastic, especially Heroes and Low


berlin trilogy wasnt until like 77??? the mid seventies were over
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 24, 2012, 12:19:15 PM
 I'm talking about a Short Period of Time, like couple of years.


things like nazerath and bachman turner overdrive
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Samus Aran on June 24, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
imo BTO isn't even bad enough to complain about

they're not good enough to care about either though

they're just another bland band of the era with one radio hit they desperately clung to

nazareth is awful though
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 24, 2012, 12:26:04 PM
Bland is Bad. It is Really bad. Bland is Awful
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: YPrrrr on June 24, 2012, 05:49:19 PM
Quote from: Rogger on June 24, 2012, 11:53:03 AM
i think i should have clarified and said "rock" music

like right after led zep got big and that "hard rock" thing became a "thing" a lot of really bad bands came around (ACDC being the defining moment of that "thing")

i wans't thinking of any of those bands when U posted that


and what did david bowie release in the mid seventies that was good  ?  ?

it was like alladin sane then he dipped into some ok pop shit and then made good music and then made more boring music.
Also Marvin Gaye is a king. Perhaps his best years were right before the mid-70s but still...

Bowie's Station to Station is one of his biggest albums and the source of one of his famous personas.
Quote from: Rogger on June 24, 2012, 11:50:31 AM
all those bands are trash.
Well if you think the Clash are trash then I have no interest in your opinion of music anymore. Goodbye nyandood;
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 24, 2012, 05:53:13 PM
Quote from: NDDR on June 24, 2012, 05:49:19 PM
Well if you think the Clash are trash then I have no interest in your opinion of music anymore. Goodbye nyandood;
Some People Call us Trash, but the Name is Crass Not Clash. we dont Want ur Punk credentials.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 24, 2012, 05:54:40 PM
rock the casbah was written about me.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: YPrrrr on June 24, 2012, 05:58:21 PM
More like "Hateful"
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 24, 2012, 07:10:06 PM
i don't get it.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on June 24, 2012, 09:01:26 PM
im probably the only one who really liked young americans but that wasn't really a "rock" album.

its funny because these bands that you're complaining about are also bands that receive heavy rotation on my hometown's classic rock station. BTO, Nazareth, Kansas, Boston, Warren Zevon. My mother's favorite band was Black Oak Arkansas and they were so goddamn boring. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGAPhLK8qdk[/youtube]

Some of the people I have on my facebook are people that my parent's were friends with, and they all post about how music like this is "true rock and roll".

Also The Eagles were fucking terrible.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Samus Aran on June 24, 2012, 09:26:53 PM
yes the eagles are terrible goowan

i mean i like a couple songs but most of their material is either bad or terrible imo lol

also, i kinda like warren zevon
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on June 24, 2012, 09:38:08 PM
I only heard that werewolves of london song (which I liked ok) and the sad bastard "im dying of cancer" album he put out before he died of cancer
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 25, 2012, 03:10:01 PM
warren zevon was kind of like really cool.



i think i am just mad that more ppl know about Kansas than Darkthrone
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Geno on June 25, 2012, 07:00:21 PM
Frank Zappa released some of his best material in the mid 70s. David Bowie put out some amazing stuff around then too.

Not to mention Pink Floyd released Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, and Animals in the mid 70s

So no, it didn't. You're just a bad person.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 25, 2012, 07:07:08 PM
dsotm was early seventies.

animals was late seventies

wish u were here was pretty good tho

so was the david bowie stuff.

not giving U zappa
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 25, 2012, 07:10:59 PM
but all those guys were Really Established by then. not really a ~nedw thing~

i believe there was some kind shortage in rock music and since white people were not allowed to like funk and disco because of their dracula-esque opinions on blood lines  they churned out shit core for a few years and then when the punx /rio  hit it started getting good agai n
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Samus Aran on June 25, 2012, 10:22:43 PM
if we're talking about new music in the mid 70s then oh god yes rock music was shit lol

it was surviving on already established bands that were still putting out good material
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 26, 2012, 01:04:54 PM
yeah . like. What's the Deal Folks.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Geno on June 26, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Quote from: Rogger on June 25, 2012, 07:07:08 PM
not giving U zappa
Uh why not? Over-Nite Sensation came out in '73, Apostrophe came out in '74, One Size Fits All and Bongo Fury in '75, and Zoot Allures in '76. Some of his best work in that small time frame.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on June 26, 2012, 11:05:45 PM
All music is all bad all the time.
Who needs the seventies when you have eternity?
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 27, 2012, 05:48:15 PM
Quote from: Geno on June 26, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Uh why not? Over-Nite Sensation came out in '73, Apostrophe came out in '74, One Size Fits All and Bongo Fury in '75, and Zoot Allures in '76. Some of his best work in that small time frame.
all his work is Poop Work   
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on June 27, 2012, 06:16:06 PM
Zappa's a minor genius though.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 27, 2012, 06:34:51 PM
I appreciate his talent and it pains me to say his stuff is bad because he is a lot better than most music people, i just don't like his music. he is one of the few people i dont like but respect (stupid thing i kn ow )
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Geno on June 27, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
Quote from: Rogger on June 27, 2012, 05:48:15 PM
all his work is Poop Work   
Then your opinion is invalid anyways. Move along people, nothing to see here.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: YPrrrr on June 27, 2012, 11:51:28 PM
Quote from: Geno on June 27, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
Then your opinion is invalid anyways. Move along people, nothing to see here.
Could've just seen that with the Clash srsly
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 28, 2012, 02:08:12 PM
heh these plebs.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Samus Aran on June 28, 2012, 02:42:39 PM
heh
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Geno on June 28, 2012, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: Rogger on June 28, 2012, 02:08:12 PM
heh these plebs.
Plebs don't like Zappa. So what does that make you?
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: snoorkel on June 28, 2012, 03:40:40 PM
plebs like zappa
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Geno on June 28, 2012, 04:35:39 PM
Quote from: vziard on June 28, 2012, 03:40:40 PM
plebs like zappa
Eh. Maybe Hot Rats or Over-nite sensation, but I don't think most of his work appeals to plebs.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on June 28, 2012, 04:40:39 PM
Quote from: vziard on June 28, 2012, 03:40:40 PM
plebs like zappa


ZaPPA's too DEEP for YOU.

I dunno, I like listening to his records. There's a lot of interesting, weird free-form depth tucked in a lot of his work that makes it all worthwhile.
Some people don't like to.

If you* don't, who cares?
If you* do, who cares?

Plebeian is a title as dead as the raccoon sitting in the middle of the road a few blocks down.

*As in the royal, collective "you".
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 28, 2012, 05:16:54 PM
zappa is undeniably pretentious, i rarely use that word but i find no other that fits. some of his orchestrated pieces are really beautiful, but that is about it. He was Talented and he was creative, just a pretentious jack ass. i appreciate his stand for freedom of speech for artists but besides that  he is just OVerly PRETENTIOUS.


Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 28, 2012, 05:18:11 PM
 
Quote from: Boognish-Redux- on June 28, 2012, 04:40:39 PM
free-form



everything should be free form
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Boogus Epirus Aurelius on June 28, 2012, 05:23:04 PM
Quote from: Rogger on June 28, 2012, 05:16:54 PM
zappa is undeniably pretentious, i rarely use that word but i find no other that fits. some of his orchestrated pieces are really beautiful, but that is about it. He was Talented and he was creative, just a pretentious jack ass. i appreciate his stand for freedom of speech for artists but besides that  he is just OVerly PRETENTIOUS.




I won't argue with that. It's pretty true.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 28, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
but let us look back on some good  free form


the can
the amon düül ii, lets forget the first
sun ra, jazz jazz jazz
gr8tfuldead maybe? idk.
the king crimsons?? ? ? mmm :)
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: Geno on June 28, 2012, 05:28:52 PM
Quote from: Rogger on June 28, 2012, 05:16:54 PM
zappa is undeniably pretentious, i rarely use that word but i find no other that fits. some of his orchestrated pieces are really beautiful, but that is about it. He was Talented and he was creative, just a pretentious jack ass. i appreciate his stand for freedom of speech for artists but besides that  he is just OVerly PRETENTIOUS.



Has nothing to do with his music though.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: silvertone on June 28, 2012, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: Geno on June 28, 2012, 05:28:52 PM
Has nothing to do with his music though.
lmfao
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: me003 on November 01, 2012, 05:13:46 PM
Quote from: [khu]silver on June 28, 2012, 05:33:05 PM
Quote from: Geno on June 28, 2012, 05:28:52 PM
Has nothing to do with his music though.
lmfao
I agree character has a lot to do with music. Could you show me what you mean he's pretentiuos? I never got into zappa so I don't know.

On the other hand I think Van Halen came around in '78 and I'm not big on old bands but I'm just getting into that record.

Then there was Blue Oyster Cult and Iron Butterfly but I don't care for them.
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on November 01, 2012, 05:18:19 PM
disco was really good
Title: Re: did music get really bad in the mid 70s
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on November 01, 2012, 06:57:14 PM
Quote from: Patsy Stone on November 01, 2012, 05:18:19 PM
disco was really good