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I think there was a movie about this
Your friends have no concept of respect though, do they?
Quote from: Snowy on February 10, 2012, 07:05:57 PM
this is why I referred to him as "Paul Blart" 5thgrade;
oh I was thinking of Mall Rats, nvm
Yes they are a joke for politely asking people to not run in a mall. What assholes.
you're retarded
Well probably because it would be a liability for the mall if people got injured there. And so there are certain safety rules/guidelines put in place that are enforced to ensure a less hostile environment. Also so as to not cause a disturbance for the other individuals at the mall trying to enjoy themselves or shop.
It's not just "Oh hey, I don't like you kids running" or "I'm gonna give you crap just because you're kids and I can."
Quote from: Dead End Moon on February 10, 2012, 07:22:23 PM
Well probably because it would be a liability for the mall if people got injured there. And so there are certain safety rules/guidelines put in place that are enforced to ensure a less hostile environment. Also so as to not cause a disturbance for the other individuals at the mall trying to enjoy themselves or shop.
It's not just "Oh hey, I don't like you kids running" or "I'm gonna give you crap just because you're kids and I can."
well, yeah, essentially it is
like what if someone goes to the mall and their idea of enjoying themselves happens to differ just slightly from everyone else's??? they're not aloud at the mall? even if they're taking necessary precautions to make sure they aren't going to "run in to" people or however the case might be?? should there be a test before going into the mall for if you can handle yourself?
Quote from: vziard on February 10, 2012, 07:25:54 PM
well, yeah, essentially it is
like what if someone goes to the mall and their idea of enjoying themselves happens to differ just slightly from everyone else's??? they're not aloud at the mall? even if they're taking necessary precautions to make sure they aren't going to "run in to" people or however the case might be?? should there be a test before going into the mall for if you can handle yourself?
this makes no sense.
They were running around a mall full of people. The mall police simply told them to stop and wasn't an ass. Instead of showing a bit of responsibility someone starts yelling about how he is running. How does that have anything to do with different ways of enjoying oneself? They are breaking rules and being an ass after being nicely reprimanded.
fuck obama and his cronies we are the 99%
i believe if u want to be a cop you should be murdered
Quote from: Echo Weiss on February 10, 2012, 07:30:50 PM
this makes no sense.
They were running around a mall full of people. The mall police simply told them to stop and wasn't an ass. Instead of showing a bit of responsibility someone starts yelling about how he is running. How does that have anything to do with different ways of enjoying oneself? They are breaking rules and being an ass after being nicely reprimanded.
so you're saying that when you're in a public space you're supposed to abide by this made up "social contract"' that nobody wrote but everyone kind of secretly agrees to for mutual benefit?? basically so no one gets too upset and everyone knows what to expect??
Quote from: N o t S i d on February 10, 2012, 07:31:22 PM
fuck obama and his cronies we are the 99%
exactly, I think if people want to do something different than the "status quo" then everyone else should sit down and deal with it instead of trying to fucking control everything around them
Quote from: vziard on February 10, 2012, 07:25:54 PM
well, yeah, essentially it is
like what if someone goes to the mall and their idea of enjoying themselves happens to differ just slightly from everyone else's??? they're not aloud at the mall? even if they're taking necessary precautions to make sure they aren't going to "run in to" people or however the case might be?? should there be a test before going into the mall for if you can handle yourself?
First of all, you yourself, are too anti-authority. Not everybody with authority is out to get you for everything you do. (Unless of course everything you do is wrong and goes against every kind of authority. But you'd have to be actively going for that kind of thing to achieve those results and thus bringing it upon yourself.)
Second, if you're actions are going to create a disturbance then that's probably something that whoever owns the mall tries to prevent happening. Disturbances can potently hurt sales, or in extreme cases injure people. First and foremost the mall is there for shopping and for the shops and owners to make money. Anything that potentially harms that is bad and is dealt with or planned for and prevented ahead of time.
Most indoor places either have rules against, or frown upon, running indoors or will tell people not to run for safety and liability reasons. So the people running won't hurt other people or themselves. And usually if people continue on ignoring the warnings, they are removed.
Quote from: vziard on February 10, 2012, 07:36:40 PM
so you're saying that when you're in a public space you're supposed to abide by this made up "social contract"' that nobody wrote but everyone kind of secretly agrees to for mutual benefit?? basically so no one gets too upset and everyone knows what to expect??
exactly, I think if people want to do something different than the "status quo" then everyone else should sit down and deal with it instead of trying to fucking control everything around them
uhhh no, I'm saying don't be an asshole. The mall was in the right asking them to not run inside and they were completely kind about it. Yet they continue being an ass, then they have the audacity to act like the mall cop was doing something horribly wrong.
Quote from: Dead End Moon on February 10, 2012, 07:40:28 PM
First of all, you yourself, are too anti-authority. Not everybody with authority is out to get you for everything you do. (Unless of course everything you do is wrong and goes against every kind of authority. But you'd have to be actively going for that kind of thing to achieve those results and thus bringing it upon yourself.)
Second, if you're actions are going to create a disturbance then that's probably something that whoever owns the mall tries to prevent happening. Disturbances can potently hurt sales, or in extreme cases injure people. First and foremost the mall is there for shopping and for the shops and owners to make money. Anything that potentially harms that is bad and is dealt with or planned for and prevented ahead of time.
Most indoor places either have rules against, or frown upon, running indoors or will tell people not to run for safety and liability reasons. So the people running won't hurt other people or themselves. And usually if people continue on ignoring the warnings, they are removed.
but like snowy said, if I want to run but I'm 100% sure I'm good enough at running that I own't run in to anyone, then why can't I run? what is the point of rules when individuals know about the situation they're in better than a rule ever could? (because rules aren't ALIVE)
if i was in a store it would be a different, because that's like someone's real purchased Space. they have an investment to keep and I respect that, that's a REAL social contract....when money changes hands. but the hallways in a mall? who the fuck is a mall or a cop, NOT THE bosS OF ME. think of it like international waters
Quote from: Echo Weiss on February 10, 2012, 07:42:45 PM
uhhh no, I'm saying don't be an asshole. The mall was in the right asking them to not run inside and they were completely kind about it. Yet they continue being an ass, then they have the audacity to act like the mall cop was doing something horribly wrong.
but you know anyone who is a mall cop has an ego problem and was probably fucked with when they were a kid and forced to do things they didn't want to do, so they reciprocate
snorkel's posts in this thread are just a joke right
child raping isn't something to joke about.
so the road to hell...is paved with chocolate treats??? Guess ya mall coppers better leave the icin' off your donuts
so you coppers think you want me to stop running huh? you know the soldiers in iraq run?? you want me to be Unlike the Soldiers??
heh mall coppers chasin me on the segways, bitch i got my jordans on got hump filled with gatorade.
lol@thisthread
Quote from: Nyerp on February 10, 2012, 07:49:36 PM
snorkel's posts in this thread are just a joke right
I honestly think that if someone wants to bring a Gun into a public place and "open fire," then it's whoever dies' s own fault for not anticipating that happening and getting out of the way in time. People love to fucking be victims and call out the "rule breakers," it's just a game
i guess you can say you are in Denial of your Lack of Authority over my Body. i have freedoms granted to me by the Aristocrats of the 1700s that you cannot take away from me.
i will not tolerate this Indecency, i have power and honor in my bones. i am the blood of savages and the mind of a samurai. the patience of the Spider in the web as he waits for the flies. I do not need any of your stimulates (coffee) to over power you
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got a head ache...best take some pills... NOT . pills are for the Mall Coppers, the Volunteer Nazis. i will commit to the TAI CHI methods of head ache Removal(place your fingers on specific points, if you let me touch your Beautiful Face i will show you)
Quote from: Thyme on February 10, 2012, 07:57:21 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/Ycpwp.jpg)
you could put the IRS in this picture too.
Quote from: vziard on February 10, 2012, 07:47:20 PM
but like snowy said, if I want to run but I'm 100% sure I'm good enough at running that I own't run in to anyone, then why can't I run? what is the point of rules when individuals know about the situation they're in better than a rule ever could? (because rules aren't ALIVE)
if i was in a store it would be a different, because that's like someone's real purchased Space. they have an investment to keep and I respect that, that's a REAL social contract....when money changes hands. but the hallways in a mall? who the fuck is a mall or a cop, NOT THE bosS OF ME. think of it like international waters
Because if they allow that, then it sets a precedent where these young individuals may end up running through a more crowded area, so they nip it in the bud right away. The mall cops don't know these personally know these people or what their thoughts are so they treat them all more or less the same, whether there were other people around or not. Plus, like I said, those running could have injured themselves on mall property and become a liability to the mall. Accidents do happen. Not everything is definite no matter how good you are at something.
And if you can't play by the rules then you're generally thrown out and those services will no longer be offered to you. And that would be pretty stupid of yourself to so in defiance of something like "no running" that you would risk getting into that sort of mess just for your own satisfaction with no sense of regard for another person's well being or property. Because the mall property is actually owned by somebody, it is absolutely not yours to do whatever you want on or with it.
Also, just because you exist, it doesn't mean that your are entitled to everything there is or to do everything there is all any point and time of your choosing.
the Saints are Appalled at your Actions Mall Cop. No Vishnu Approves. Shiva Still Dreams
Quote from: Nyerp on February 10, 2012, 07:49:36 PM
snorkel's posts in this thread are just a joke right
Well this is snorkel, so it kind of could go either way, but overall this does seem like the kind of stuff he actually thinks considering some of the things he has posted about doing before or what he currently does.
so i was skate boarding with my brain. mental skateboarding and the fuCKING THOUGHT POLICE penetrated my imagination and took my skate baord and fined me 45 Deckin Dollars (my brain's currency)
i dont get paid until next week!!! ugh.
i am just a 16 skater stuck in 2 worlds (physical/imagination) and gettin fucked in both. skating is not a crime.
i see you on the Inside, for you are the Outside Me on your Inside. mall cop you may be powerful, but on the Inside you are the Outside me, which is the lesser Powerful. I shall pull my Inside into the Outisde to defeat you in this Physical Realm.
the best way to get out of situations like this is to run like a mad man and make them chase you, run up stairs and jump over benches and cause havoc. MAKE SURE THE MALL COP FOLLOWS YOU. and as soon as you turn a tight corner you stop. STOP RIGHT THERE, and as he is trippin over himself trying to chase you he will realize. HE WILL REALIZE that you were in control the whole time. you made him Lose Control. he is the Perpetrator. he has gone over his limit of control. stand there, do not be smug. Being humble is god's gift to man, burning ashes will reap over his head as he sees you being nice and considerate. help him up if he falls over. he will understand.
how do we turn him off
Quote from: Dead End Moon on February 10, 2012, 07:59:11 PM
Because if they allow that, then it sets a precedent where these young individuals may end up running through a more crowded area, so they nip it in the bud right away. The mall cops don't know these personally know these people or what their thoughts are so they treat them all more or less the same, whether there were other people around or not. Plus, like I said, those running could have injured themselves on mall property and become a liability to the mall. Accidents do happen. Not everything is definite no matter how good you are at something.
And if you can't play by the rules then you're generally thrown out and those services will no longer be offered to you. And that would be pretty stupid of yourself to so in defiance of something like "no running" that you would risk getting into that sort of mess just for your own satisfaction with no sense of regard for another person's well being or property. Because the mall property is actually owned by somebody, it is absolutely not yours to do whatever you want on or with it.
Also, just because you exist, it doesn't mean that your are entitled to everything there is or to do everything there is all any point and time of your choosing.
One cannot abstractly contrast the spectacle to actual social activity: such a division is itself divided. The spectacle which inverts the real is in fact produced. Whence is the Real produced? Lived reality is materially invaded by the contemplation of the spectacle while simultaneously absorbing the spectacular order, giving it possible cohesiveness. Objective reality is present on both sides. Every notion fixed this way has no other basis than its passage into the opposite: reality rises up within the spectacle, and the spectacle is real. This reciprocal alienation is the essence and the support of the existing society. The Mall ain't there without my participation and I'm going to do what I want in it, because it owes me that much for deciding to put itself on my fucking beautiful Earth.
the tired and broken, how i loathe thee. this is a world of Power. this mall is no place for you. we are not civilized humans here. we are hyenas and everyone else is a lion. we must steal from each other, whether it be via the Proxies of Stores or through the more straightforward method (taking things without paying for them.)
next time you are in the mall, laugh at your foolish self. How Impudent of you To be even Located there.
Quote from: silvertoné on February 10, 2012, 08:09:07 PM
next time you are in the mall, laugh at your foolish self. How Impudent of you To be even Located there.
Entangles youthful folly brings humiliation.
Quote from: Thyme on February 10, 2012, 07:57:21 PM
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why do i know exactly what this is a reference to awdood;
Quote from: vziard on February 10, 2012, 08:08:05 PM
One cannot abstractly contrast the spectacle to actual social activity: such a division is itself divided. The spectacle which inverts the real is in fact produced. Whence is the Real produced? Lived reality is materially invaded by the contemplation of the spectacle while simultaneously absorbing the spectacular order, giving it possible cohesiveness. Objective reality is present on both sides. Every notion fixed this way has no other basis than its passage into the opposite: reality rises up within the spectacle, and the spectacle is real. This reciprocal alienation is the essence and the support of the existing society.
The Mall ain't there without my participation and I'm going to do what I want in it, because it owes me that much for deciding to put itself on my fucking beautiful Earth.
So you're conceding defeat to my point of view then?
And for clarification the mall isn't there with out society, or a communities, participation. Of which you are only a single member of and can be safely done away with with absolutely no impact at all on the mall's ability to survive. And nobody owes you anything no matter what you do or will do.
lol@thisthread
today i was able to relate to someone for the first time in my life, she told me that she freaks out in big department stores and malls. the music, the people's vibes everything. i never been so happy in my life. she told me she was going to the psychiatrist for the first time in her life and i wanted to ask her to share her meds when she got some.
she is braver than i could ever be...
Quote from: Dead End Moon on February 10, 2012, 08:11:57 PM
So you're conceding defeat to my point of view then?
And for clarification the mall isn't there with out society, or a communities, participation. Of which you are only a single member of and can be safely done away with with absolutely no impact at all on the mall's ability to survive. And nobody owes you anything no matter what you do or will do.
did you even READ what I posted just replace 'spectacle' with "mall" . rthe Mall is not the Real. the mall is the spectacle. I am Real, the mall will be brutally subjugated to my Will, because I command that Which Is Seen, and no mall is going to stand in my way. the mall is not a collection of images, but a social relation among people, mediated by images. why are walls and Abstract Purpose enough to control my behavior? does it change who I AM?
Quote from: Snowy on February 10, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
When I created this thread I really just wanted to call my friends assholes and make fun of mall cops, not debate about social "rules" 5thgrade;
d/w snorkel doesn't understand debord's writings. (neither do i...yet...)
Quote from: Snowy on February 10, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
When I created this thread I really just wanted to call my friends assholes and make fun of mall cops, not debate about social "rules" 5thgrade;
"rules" indeed Brotha
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Quote from: silvertoné on February 10, 2012, 08:36:51 PM
d/w snorkel doesn't understand debord's writings. (neither do i...yet...)
i'm still only on ch. 2 : (
Quote from: vziard on February 10, 2012, 08:44:57 PM
i'm still only on ch. 2 : (
if you read chappy 1 you would know that the mall is on of the Images of the Spectacle and part of the objective reality created by the Spectacle, not an Illusion just one of the mediation tools.
btw i am not trying to seem superior to you or anything lol.
Who still goes to the mall?
Quote from: silvertoné on February 10, 2012, 08:47:33 PM
if you read chappy 1 you would know that the mall is on of the Images of the Spectacle and part of the objective reality created by the Spectacle, not an Illusion just one of the mediation tools.
btw i am not trying to seem superior to you or anything lol.
One to the Sun brovva, You Know It Negro
Quote from: Tectrinket on February 10, 2012, 08:11:52 PM
why do i know exactly what this is a reference to awdood;
you should tell me, because i don't know what it's a reference to awdood;
obama caused global warming
Quote from: Edina Monsoon on February 10, 2012, 09:08:02 PM
suburbanites
i hastily walk into a mall, look a down and a few feet ahead of me, put my hands in my pocket and move them around in there, pressing and contorting things, super conscious of every sentiment and feeling, overaware of the surrounding environment. i feel like a god on stage, who just runs faster and faster with that manic look on. so i make a beeline for what i need and buy it, cash money peace out son.
repeat after 6-8 months.
Quote from: vziard on February 10, 2012, 08:22:59 PM
did you even READ what I posted just replace 'spectacle' with "mall" . rthe Mall is not the Real. the mall is the spectacle. I am Real, the mall will be brutally subjugated to my Will, because I command that Which Is Seen, and no mall is going to stand in my way. the mall is not a collection of images, but a social relation among people, mediated by images. why are walls and Abstract Purpose enough to control my behavior? does it change who I AM?
You're trying to hard with the psychobabble and coming out a little bit incoherent whereas your first few post weren't really like or in the style of your most recent posts. So that's why I'm saying you're conceding to my point of view.
And if you say it doesn't change who you are then what's the harm in bending to and obeying the rules? Why are you so against it then?
I get angry every time I enter a shopping mall. Pure hate fills me and oozes out of my fingernails. I go to the Dippin' Dots machines. It's not even Dippin' Dots, it's some shitty knock off. The machine doesn't take my money and I scream and scream in my mind. While I scream, I walk the circumference of the mall. I see stores advertising shitty cookies or ugly clothing or knock off Gucci sunglasses and my dick shoots inside of me. I ejaculate pure hate into my inards. Though the pretzel place is pretty cool.
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