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Title: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Daddy on September 27, 2010, 03:34:33 PM
IT HAS BEEN ALMOST 5 YEARS SINCE THE 360 LAUNCHED IN THE US.

4 SINCE THE WII AND PS3 LAUNCHED


THERE HASN'T EVEN BEEN A MENTION OF A SUCCESSOR FROM ALL 3 COMPANIES.

REMEMBER THE 'REVOLUTION' THAT SHIT WAS ACTIVELY DISCUSSED 2 YEARS BEFORE THE WII'S LAUNCH.  HELL I DON'T EVEN SEE RUMORS ABOUT THESE SYSTEMS.
THEY'RE ALL APPROACHING THE 5 OR 6 YEAR LIFESPAN OF A CONSOLE GENERATION.


Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Samus Aran on September 27, 2010, 03:35:56 PM
Maybe they just want to make this generation last longer? I dunno. I seem to recall a little bit of talk about all three companies' next consoles, but not much.
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: YPrrrr on September 27, 2010, 03:43:33 PM
It could just be delayed due to the level of technology we're now dealing with... It seems farfetched to say there would be no next generation merely because nothing new comes out in 6 years... That's a pretty small amount of time really, and I just don't think these same consoles will still be around 10 years down the road.

Somebody's going to have to make the gimmicky 3D console after all
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Samus Aran on September 27, 2010, 03:46:58 PM
Quote from: YPR on September 27, 2010, 03:43:33 PM
Somebody's going to have to make the gimmicky 3D console after all


I kind of foresee that somebody as being someone other than the three big current names. Sort of like how Microsoft came out of nowhere with the Xbox in an attempt to compete, I feel like the time is perfect for someone else to try.

Dunno who it'd be, though. People like Philips and Panasonic already crashed and burned.
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: YPrrrr on September 27, 2010, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: Lain on September 27, 2010, 03:46:58 PM
I kind of foresee that somebody as being someone other than the three big current names. Sort of like how Microsoft came out of nowhere with the Xbox in an attempt to compete, I feel like the time is perfect for someone else to try.

Dunno who it'd be, though. People like Philips and Panasonic already crashed and burned.
Apple girl;
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Samus Aran on September 27, 2010, 04:01:27 PM
Quote from: YPR on September 27, 2010, 03:58:50 PM
Apple girl;


well they tried a long time ago and failed, but i guess they could try again
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Nyerp on September 27, 2010, 04:15:03 PM
Quote from: YPR on September 27, 2010, 03:58:50 PM
Apple girl;


nooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: ME## on September 27, 2010, 04:18:17 PM
In the near future?  No.  The PS3 and Xbox 360 still have more than enough power for a couple years to come.
Quote from: YPR on September 27, 2010, 03:43:33 PM
Somebody's going to have to make the gimmicky 3D console after all


The PS3's got you covered there.  n_u
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: C.Mongler on September 27, 2010, 04:40:07 PM
what is there to improve upon lol
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Thyme on September 27, 2010, 04:45:08 PM
Quote from: C Mongler on September 27, 2010, 04:40:07 PM
what is there to improve upon lol


Seriously. For consoles, at least.
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: YPrrrr on September 27, 2010, 04:48:06 PM
The Wii has a lot that could be improved upon n_u
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: ME## on September 27, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: YPR on September 27, 2010, 04:48:06 PM
The Wii has a lot that could be improved upon n_u


It's called the PlayStation Move. sillydood;
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Nyerp on September 27, 2010, 05:17:57 PM
Quote from: Ãâ,¬mbørthümbsee on September 27, 2010, 04:50:42 PM
It's called the PlayStation Move. sillydood;


lol no
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: ME## on September 27, 2010, 05:40:46 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on September 27, 2010, 05:17:57 PM
lol no


n_u
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: KonohaShinobi on September 27, 2010, 06:17:03 PM
IIRC, Sony and Microsoft publicly announced that they planned on at least a 10 year lifespan, which is a really long time.
Quote from: Lain on September 27, 2010, 04:01:27 PM
well they tried a long time ago and failed, but i guess they could try again

Every single ipod is being pushed as a handheld gaming device, so they are damn near already involved.

Also, there's Onlive, although it's more of a platform like Steam, it is kind of like a new console, I am really curious how it'll sell once it's out of the beta stages.
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: bluaki on September 28, 2010, 02:17:20 AM
Although not among the main TV-connected consoles, I believe Nintendo's 3DS will start the 8th console generation.
Quote from: YPR on September 27, 2010, 03:43:33 PM
Somebody's going to have to make the gimmicky 3D console after all
It even does this.

Being so far behind in hardware, to the extent that 3DS is more powerful than Wii, I think Nintendo's likely to be the first to release a new non-handheld console as well. It doesn't look like Microsoft or Sony will want to make a new console for a few years after just releasing major motion accessories.
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Nyerp on September 28, 2010, 05:14:37 AM
um bluaki 3ds doesn't count as a console
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Hiro on September 28, 2010, 10:03:52 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on September 28, 2010, 05:14:37 AM
um bluaki 3ds doesn't count as a console
it's still a next-gen game system  akudood;
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Nyerp on September 28, 2010, 10:05:36 AM
Quote from: Hïro on September 28, 2010, 10:03:52 AM
it's still a next-gen game system  akudood;


uh it won't start the next generation of consoles doodthing;
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: ME## on September 28, 2010, 10:13:40 AM
Quote from: Hïro on September 28, 2010, 10:03:52 AM
it's still a next-gen game system  akudood;


No, just no.  goonish



Beyond that, the PSP and DS are considered to be in the same generation as the PS2, so the new handhelds will be in this generation which hasn't been 'next gen' since 2006.
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Thyme on September 28, 2010, 10:22:54 AM
Quote from: Ãâ,¬mbørthümbsee on September 28, 2010, 10:13:40 AM
Beyond that, the PSP and DS are considered to be in the same generation as the PS2, so-


what no
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Hiro on September 28, 2010, 10:23:56 AM
Quote from: Ãâ,¬mbørthümbsee on September 28, 2010, 10:13:40 AM
No, just no.  goonish



Beyond that, the PSP and DS are considered to be in the same generation as the PS2, so the new handhelds will be in this generation which hasn't been 'next gen' since 2006.
wat
the ps2 is the same gen as the gamecube, and the gba is the same gen as the game cube
DS and PSP came out later, so they're more next-gen.
It seem like the handhelds are coming out in the middle of a system's life, between console releases.

The DS goes with the Wii.  baddood;

Quote from: Nyerp on September 28, 2010, 10:05:36 AM
uh it won't start the next generation of consoles doodthing;
never said it would, but it is a next-gen handheld system.
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Classic on September 28, 2010, 10:24:16 AM
3DS will be next-gen for handhelds, not consoles.

Microsoft and Sony have both said they want their systems to go on for 10+ years...meaning 5 of them have passed.
Nintendo could go for graphics and online updates, but the Wii is still selling so I'm assuming they'll just wait out on going to the Wii2 (although Iwata stated it was in development).
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Hiro on September 28, 2010, 10:27:09 AM
Quote from: 鉄腕アãÆ'ˆãÆ'  on September 28, 2010, 10:24:16 AM
3DS will be next-gen for handhelds, not consoles.

Microsoft and Sony have both said they want their systems to go on for 10+ years...meaning 5 of them have passed.
Nintendo could go for graphics and online updates, but the Wii is still selling so I'm assuming they'll just wait out on going to the Wii2 (although Iwata stated it was in development).
exactly this

I'm guessing the next Nintendo console will probably be out in about 2-3 years or so, while the PS4/Xbox3 will likely be out in about 3 or 4 years.
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Classic on September 28, 2010, 10:30:34 AM
NO HIRO, YOU MISSED THE POINT

Microsoft and Sony, if they follow what they've said, will have a console until 2015-2017.
Nintendo, on the other hand, could pull an E3 and show us Wii 2 anytime. They never said it's meant to last 10-12 years like the other systems. Even Miyamoto has said Wii2 is in development, and that graphics, online, and HD were going to be priorities.

So by the time the 360 and PS3 have had successors announced, Wii2 could easily go to Wii3.
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Hiro on September 28, 2010, 10:36:49 AM
Quote from: 鉄腕アãÆ'ˆãÆ'  on September 28, 2010, 10:30:34 AM
NO HIRO, YOU MISSED THE POINT

Microsoft and Sony, if they follow what they've said, will have a console until 2015-2017.
Nintendo, on the other hand, could pull an E3 and show us Wii 2 anytime. They never said it's meant to last 10-12 years like the other systems. Even Miyamoto has said Wii2 is in development, and that graphics, online, and HD were going to be priorities.

So by the time the 360 and PS3 have had successors announced, Wii2 could easily go to Wii3.
I DIDN'T MISS THE POINT
I was just giving my predictions  baddood;
While they have set a 10 year lifespan for PS3 and 360, I doubt it will go quite that far. 8 years seems more likely to me. Also, note that I did set the time earlier for Nintendo to release one. We know that they are working on one, but I doubt it will be developed enough to be out next year. Furthermore, the Wii is still selling too well to replace it just yet (although they did do that with the DS). It is possible though that the Wii2 will be out 2 or so years before the PS4/Xbox3
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 28, 2010, 12:19:00 PM
Quote from: Hïro on September 28, 2010, 10:03:52 AM
it's still a next-gen game system  akudood;


i agree with this akudood;
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Dullahan on September 28, 2010, 08:13:39 PM
hey remember when windows vista was supposed to last 10 years? remember when it didn't?
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Hiro on September 28, 2010, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: Dullahan on September 28, 2010, 08:13:39 PM
hey remember when windows vista was supposed to last 10 years? remember when it didn't?
what
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: strongbad on September 28, 2010, 08:48:40 PM
Quote from: Dullahan on September 28, 2010, 08:13:39 PM
hey remember when windows vista was supposed to last 10 years? remember when it didn't?

no i don't
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Daddy on September 28, 2010, 08:51:52 PM
Quote from: Hïro on September 28, 2010, 08:41:04 PM
what
Microsoft also makes operating systems, in addition to the Xbox line of gaming consoles.  For many years Microsoft's flagship version of this Windows operating system was "XP".  After a long wait in development under the codename "longhorn" Microsoft released a new operating system called "Vista" for retail in late January 2007.


Vista was intended to replace XP and inherit its long term support and be around for a long time.  What Microsoft did not foresee was all of Vista's flaws and complete suckage.

Not long after Vista was released they replaced it with Windows 7, thus scraping all long term plans of support for Windows Vista


i dunno how it's game related though. vista sucked and no body used it by choice
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Hiro on September 28, 2010, 08:57:02 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on September 28, 2010, 08:51:52 PM
Microsoft also makes operating systems, in addition to the Xbox line of gaming consoles.  For many years Microsoft's flagship version of this Windows operating system was "XP".  After a long wait in development under the codename "longhorn" Microsoft released a new operating system called "Vista" for retail in late January 2007.


Vista was intended to replace XP and inherit its long term support and be around for a long time.  What Microsoft did not foresee was all of Vista's flaws and complete suckage.

Not long after Vista was released they replaced it with Windows 7, thus scraping all long term plans of support for Windows Vista


i dunno how it's game related though. vista sucked and no body used it by choice
No fucking shit. Where does Microsoft say they intended to keep Vista as their latest OS for 10 years? No version of Windows has lasted for more than 3 years besides XP.
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Nyerp on September 28, 2010, 08:58:53 PM
i'm not saying i like vista but why does it suck
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Daddy on September 28, 2010, 09:03:16 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on September 28, 2010, 08:58:53 PM
i'm not saying i like vista but why does it suck
The implementation of the UAC did not solve anything and just further added problems.
Faulty driver support caused incessant BSODS
A marked increase in resource usage
Have you ever connected to a wireless network and seen Vista connect to the network 5 times for no reason?
Then refuse to properly keep itself configured with the proper security settings for the network


all it did was either break features or make things more annoying
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Hiro on September 28, 2010, 09:04:05 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on September 28, 2010, 08:58:53 PM
i'm not saying i like vista but why does it suck
it's less shitty now that there's more driver support, but the endless confirmation popups are pretty fucking annoying
having not used it for too long i'm sure someone else is more qualified to explain other reasons
Title: Re: IS THERE GOING TO BE NO NEXT GEN
Post by: Nyerp on September 28, 2010, 09:09:27 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on September 28, 2010, 09:03:16 PM
The implementation of the UAC did not solve anything and just further added problems.
Faulty driver support caused incessant BSODS
A marked increase in resource usage
Have you ever connected to a wireless network and seen Vista connect to the network 5 times for no reason?
Then refuse to properly keep itself configured with the proper security settings for the network


all it did was either break features or make things more annoying


i guess i've seen all of those except BSODS, that's only happened to me like twice