"In this online community, pedophiles view themselves as the vanguard of a nascent movement seeking legalization of child pornography and the loosening of age-of-consent laws. They portray themselves as battling for childrenââ,¬â,,¢s rights to engage in sex with adults, a fight they liken to the civil rights movement"
uh sorry no doodhuh;
How terribly disturbing.
lol
Jesus Christ. :(
Pedophiles are horrible.
what about the right of the dead to have sex
here's what i don't get: videos of animals and adult humans getting maimed terribly or killed is seemingly legal on the internet, but child pornography is supposedly more harmful than either of these. not that i'm supporting child pornography but there are far worse things currently legal and usually the only thing that happens to little girls having sex on camera is that they grow up to be sluts, which america is already full of
And changing the age of consent law to be universally 16 or so is better than imprisoning heaps of 18 year olds in high school for having sex with their girlfriend in one grade lower. If you don't have any reasoning capabilities by the age of 16, you definitely won't have any by 18.
Quote from: Λoζαλ on December 28, 2008, 11:09:41 AM
Jesus Christ. :(
Pedophiles are horrible.
There are far worse people.
eg. southern religious nuts
That's awful and disturbing. doodthing;
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 11:12:34 AM
There are far worse people.
eg. southern religious nuts
Definitely. People like the Westboro Baptist Church are just...scum.
Still, it's nice to make sure that we still have a few non-sluts here in America.
Quote from: Λoζαλ on December 28, 2008, 11:14:29 AM
Definitely. People like the Westboro Baptist Church are just...scum.
Still, it's nice to make sure that we still have a few non-sluts here in America.
even if we keep cp banned and even if little girls never have sex, sluts will still exist
there isn't a damn thing to do except incriminate every man for simply thinking about younger women, and we're already headed that way
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 11:16:41 AM
even if we keep cp banned and even if little girls never have sex, sluts will still exist
there isn't a damn thing to do except incriminate every man for simply thinking about younger women, and we're already headed that way
Yeah, you're right about that.
It helps prevent child rape, however. If CP was legal, people might find it okay to rape a little girl and put it on a porn site because it's legal.
Quote from: Λoζαλ on December 28, 2008, 11:18:20 AM
Yeah, you're right about that.
It helps prevent child rape, however. If CP was legal, people might find it okay to rape a little girl and put it on a porn site because it's legal.
You can watch videos of a man getting his head beaten in with a hammer and gurgling and struggling to live. You can look at pictures of a little girl with her head crushed by a car.
Consensual sex with minors is nowhere near as bad as murder or manslaughter.
do kids even want sex
this excludes jmv's whores he had as a kid
Quote from: Det's Placenta on December 28, 2008, 11:21:12 AM
do kids even want sex
this excludes jmv's whores he had as a kid
Jesus, shut up. psyduck;
Quote from: Det's Placenta on December 28, 2008, 11:21:12 AM
do kids even want sex
this excludes jmv's whores he had as a kid
um yeah, lots of them
i'd go as far as to say most of them
and i was a kid once, so i know
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 11:19:55 AM
You can watch videos of a man getting his head beaten in with a hammer and gurgling and struggling to live. You can look at pictures of a little girl with her head crushed by a car.
Consensual sex with minors is nowhere near as bad as murder or manslaughter.
Of course not; I'd much rather arrest a murderer than a person watching CP.
However, it's not exactly at the bottom of the crime list, in my opinion. It's above weed and simple stuff like that, but not above murder and manslaughter, as you said.
I wasn't talking about consensual sex, I was talking about rape. However, if both parties involved want it, then it's fine by me. I can't tell people what to do.
I agree with the two paragraphs Lawls posted. I can have two beheadings and zippocat on a flash drive, but one picture of a 16 year old girl spreading her legs can get my whole computer confiscated by law officials.
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 11:23:08 AM
um yeah, lots of them
i'd go as far as to say most of them
and i was a kid once, so i know
even as young as 5-7? :O
Kids aren't kids anymore when they reach 8. :'(
The problem is that children aren't developed enough to make choices like that. Discouraging childhood sex, in all its forms, is good.
I do think that they should change it to 16 instead of 18 though. doodthing;
Quote from: Λoζαλ on December 28, 2008, 11:24:02 AM
Of course not; I'd much rather arrest a murderer than a person watching CP.
However, it's not exactly at the bottom of the crime list, in my opinion. It's above weed and simple stuff like that, but not above murder and manslaughter, as you said.
I wasn't talking about consensual sex, I was talking about rape. However, if both parties involved want it, then it's fine by me. I can't tell people what to do.
I really don't see how viewing cp is worse than drug use. I know marijuana has some benefits, yeah, but it's an active crime that involves the person knowingly going out to purchase/grow the substance and then use it, whilst simply viewing cp is more of a passive "offense" since you're really not going out of your way to commit the crime and unless it's some cp dedicated site pulling in revenue from the content, you're not necessarily supporting it. i suppose it's just some complex issue that i have ambivalent feelings towards; it should be a crime, but at the same time, watching it shouldn't really result in any punishment which is just how i feel about most drug use (although i still think distribution should be a serious offense regardless since you're knowingly getting someone addicted to a dangerous substance)
What really bothers me is someone serving prison time for simply looking at loli and art featuring child-like characters with no real child involved the process at all.
Quote from: Lotos on December 28, 2008, 11:28:11 AM
I agree with the two paragraphs Lawls posted. I can have two beheadings and zippocat on a flash drive, but one picture of a 16 year old girl spreading her legs can get my whole computer confiscated by law officials.
and then you're sent off to prison without a fair trial (mention child... sex and the jury is automatically against you, and a judge is just as bad but will give you just a slightly milder sentence)
There are just far worse problems in this world to worry about, but anyone using drugs or looking at a picture of an underage model is an easy target and we can just throw them away and blame all our problems on them.
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 11:32:02 AM
I really don't see how viewing cp is worse than drug use. I know marijuana has some benefits, yeah, but it's an active crime that involves the person knowingly going out to purchase/grow the substance and then use it, whilst simply viewing cp is more of a passive "offense" since you're really not going out of your way to commit the crime and unless it's some cp dedicated site pulling in revenue from the content, you're not necessarily supporting it. i suppose it's just some complex issue that i have ambivalent feelings towards; it should be a crime, but at the same time, watching it shouldn't really result in any punishment which is just how i feel about most drug use (although i still think distribution should be a serious offense regardless since you're knowingly getting someone addicted to a dangerous substance)
What really bothers me is someone serving prison time for simply looking at loli and art featuring child-like characters with no real child involved the process at all.
I have essentially the same opinion as you; however, I do believe that CP is above drug use. Drug use is just people who are being stupid wanting to destroy themselves; just allow the idiots to poison themselves if they really wish to do so. I do have the same ambivalent opinion, though, in a way, as long as it doesn't lead to rape or something like that.
The art and hentai stuff pisses me off, too. It's just a drawing, for fuck's sake.
If it's not forced, then what's the problem.
I mean, clearly an 8 year old girl won't know what to do, but a 14+ year old girl is perfectly sound of mind to know what she's doing.
YO GOTTA FIGHT
FOR YOUR RIGHT
TO PAAAAAAAAAAARTY
Quote from: Kevin on December 28, 2008, 11:36:27 AM
If it's not forced, then what's the problem.
I mean, clearly an 8 year old girl won't know what to do, but a 14+ year old girl is perfectly sound of mind to know what she's doing.
but the problem is half our population is retarded. i mean just look at congress
letting these people reproduce is the real crime
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 11:37:57 AM
but the problem is half our population is retarded. i mean just look at congress
letting these people reproduce is the real crime
Does that mean I can go to jail for having a slut send me nudes?
Quote from: Kevin on December 28, 2008, 11:38:50 AM
Does that mean I can go to jail for having a slut send me nudes?
They're sending pics in my sister's middle school. I think they should invite Chris Hansen over for an assembly, then I'm going to sneak in to meet him befuddlement
Quote from: Lotos on December 28, 2008, 11:40:16 AM
They're sending pics in my sister's middle school. I think they should invite Chris Hansen over for an assembly, then I'm going to sneak in to meet him befuddlement
The sad fact is male receivers of the photos would be the ones to get prosecuted and the girls that took the pictures would get away with no trouble at all.
Quote from: Lawlz on December 28, 2008, 11:12:34 AM
And changing the age of consent law to be universally 16 or so is better than imprisoning heaps of 18 year olds in high school for having sex with their girlfriend in one grade lower.
uh yeah what's the ratio of those cases to those where the douchebag is 25+
Quote from: Kevin on December 28, 2008, 11:36:27 AM
If it's not forced, then what's the problem.
I mean, clearly an 8 year old girl won't know what to do, but a 14+ year old girl is perfectly sound of mind to know what she's doing.
i've yet to meet a 14 year old girl of sound mind akudood;
they're easily manipulated and naive and as a kicker they think they're more mature than anyone else
Quote from: Commodore Guff on December 28, 2008, 11:59:48 AM
i've yet to meet a 14 year old girl of sound mind akudood;
they're easily manipulated and naive and as a kicker they think they're more mature than anyone else
If she says "I want to have sex. You can have sex with me".
this is why you stick to loli