I feel amazing right now. It's incomparable to most things I've ever felt; almost complete euphoria. Not mind-numbing blow-you-away type euphoria, but just... gentle and fluffy bliss.
I've achieved this through kratom, which is probably the best drug I've ever taken. It's pretty inexpensive, completely legal, non-addictive, and just... so good. This even tops marijuana, because I don't feel completely destroyed, and there's no lingering paranoia or anything, and it's legal.
My point here is that legal ethnobotanicals (organic drugs) have amazing potential, and if you feel like you want to try OD'ing on codeine or something but don't want to risk killing yourself for the high, this is the answer.
I know many of you have the opinion that mind-altering substances are simply bad and should not be used, and that's fine, but I don't really feel like this is altering my mind. I'm completely lucid, but I feel fucking amazing. And it's a very complicated "amazing"... sedated, stimulated, euphoric, peaceful...
If you want to try it, check out http://loveleafgarden.com. The guy who runs it gets some good stuff; go to the Herbs section and look at Thai Kratom or Ultra Enhanced Indo. 6-10 grams of the former will get you a nice high, while only 1g of the latter is necessary. WARNING: if you do try kratom, don't try to double the dose the second time you try it for a better high, because kratom is not open-ended. There's a very, very fine line that separates a beautiful high and awful nausea.
My intention here is to tell you about this wonderful thing. It's the best pick-me-up ever, and mellow enough that you can do it anytime, anywhere, which is why I like it so much. I could do it at school and still be completely able to do anything, and feel great about it in the mean time.
Oh, also, if you want to get into this stuff, I highly recommend using the site I suggested. DON'T use eBay, the vendors there typically have cheap and horribly impotent stuff. "Good deals" mean bad quality, almost all the time.
I would like to try this, but the whole having to order it is a set-back.
I'll stick with E.
Quote from: MethreE on April 15, 2008, 10:39:23 PM
I would like to try this, but the whole having to order it is a set-back.
I'll stick with E.
I guess if you don't have your own debit card and/or PayPal account and don't want your parents to know (which I assume is the case), it would be hard. I pay through PayPal, and the packages the stuff comes in is about as discreet as you can get.
Quote from: Snorkel on April 15, 2008, 10:46:08 PM
I guess if you don't have your own debit card and/or PayPal account and don't want your parents to know (which I assume is the case), it would be hard. I pay through PayPal, and the packages the stuff comes in is about as discreet as you can get.
Yea, you nailed the hammer on the head?
I like how you felt the need to tell Boyeh about it.
Quote from: Soup on April 15, 2008, 11:33:35 PM
I like how you felt the need to tell Boyeh about it.
yeah i think sometimes people make threads about stuff they want to tell us about
i dunno though
Quote from: Soup on April 15, 2008, 11:33:35 PM
I like how you felt the need to tell Boyeh about it.
I actually think 50% of the desire to tell you about it can be attributed to the drug, because it allegedly greatly increases the desire to be social and talk to people, but I've never done it around people so I don't know how true that is.
You have piqued my interest.
how is it used? befuddlement
Quote from: V on April 16, 2008, 06:23:37 AM
You have piqued my interest.
If I order it you better join me in taking a dab at it.
Quote from: ProtectedMember32 on April 16, 2008, 08:30:21 AM
how is it used? befuddlement
by buying it and then telling everyone that you have some
I feel like this is one of those things that could make someone in middle school really popular
I want to try. :'(
How do you get it into your body?
On the "how is it used" questions, you eat it or put it in gel caps. If you order the Ultra Enhanced Indo stuff like I'm telling you to, and you have a bottle of beeswax supplement or something, just open one of the gel caps (the ends pull apart easily), empty the contents, and fill 2-3 caps with the kratom powder. Ultra Enhanced Indo is desirable because only 1 to 1.5 grams will get you a great high. Again, I warn you, don't try to do more than that, because you'll likely just start throwing up.
If you don't have any gel caps at your disposal, you can mix the stuff with pretty much anything and eat it. Applesauce works nicely.
MAJOR NOTE: Do not consume on a full stomach. This is for two reasons: one, if you accidentally take too much, you won't have anything to vomit. Two, if you're full of food and stick the kratom in there, it's going to take a long time to release and you won't get nearly the full effects, and if you have a fatty food in your stomach you'll probably get close to none. It takes 4-5 hours for food to empty out of the stomach and get into the small intestine, so I'd recommend eating a light dinner and waiting 4 hours, mixing your kratom with a small amount of applesauce (I've also heard spreading it on toast with honey is nice), and eating it.
If you happen to have grapefruit juice available, chase the kratom with a glass or two of that. It is supposedly a great enhancer, but I've never had any to try.
Another note: even if it's in powder form (which it should be and will be if you order from that site), kratom does not mix with water very well, so don't try. You'll probably just end up hating the taste and wasting powder on the side of the glass, etc.
In case anyone was wondering, what kratom actually does is stimulate the mu-opioid receptors, which are the same things that opium and its derivatives (codeine, morphine, heroin) affect. Kratom's effects are often compared to hydrocodone or other mild opiates... but again, it's all-natural and definitely not addictive at all.
Cream colored ponies and crisp apple streudels
Doorbells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles
Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings
These are a few of my favorite things
Quote from: Your Posting Rival on April 16, 2008, 03:51:43 PM
Cream colored ponies and crisp apple streudels
Doorbells and sleigh bells and schnitzel with noodles
Wild geese that fly with the moon on their wings
These are a few of my favorite things
they also suck
Quote from: Ezlo4 on April 16, 2008, 03:54:23 PM
they also suck
Aside from the streudel, I'd agree
I shoot geese in my backyard.
thanks for telling us but we're experiencing better euphoria with video games
Quote from: Van De Kamp on April 16, 2008, 03:59:45 PM
I LOVE DOORBELLS
My friends like them a lot too. I don't get why they love ding-dong ditching so much though
Quote from: Pyrate on April 16, 2008, 04:01:14 PM
I shoot geese in my backyard.
Can you make me a pillow? meaty cocks
Sounds interesting, I might actually try it if it weren't for what my parents would say about package coming when they didn't order anything, my feeling that I would feel like a scumbag, my paranoid idea that any minor drug will permanently altar the way I think, and the simple fact that I don't really need drugs to be happy.
Quote from: Killer Tofu on April 16, 2008, 04:33:05 PM
Sounds interesting, I might actually try it if it weren't for what my parents would say about package coming when they didn't order anything, my feeling that I would feel like a scumbag, my paranoid idea that any minor drug will permanently altar the way I think, and the simple fact that I don't really need drugs to be happy.
strange and irrational lines of thought, but okay
Are you sure these guys are trustworthy? You never know who's out to burn you.
Quote from: Houdini on April 16, 2008, 05:05:43 PM
Are you sure these guys are trustworthy? You never know who's out to burn you.
What, the website? Definitely trustworthy. I've bought from a few different vendors, and this one multiple times, and he definitely has the highest quality stuff. I think it's one guy (Scott) running it, who I've talked to via email. He seems nice.
Quote from: Snorkel on April 16, 2008, 05:26:23 PM
What, the website? Definitely trustworthy. I've bought from a few different vendors, and this one multiple times, and he definitely has the highest quality stuff. I think it's one guy (Scott) running it, who I've talked to via email. He seems nice.
just checking. When buying drugs, it always pays to know thine dealer.
Quote from: steal on April 16, 2008, 09:35:24 PM
Sounds interesting, but it's kind of expensive, and from the sounds of it, it takes a lot to get high. I'd really like to try it sometime if I can find a way to get around my parents when ordering it.
Pre paid credit cards, got a Radio Shack near you?
Quote from: steal on April 16, 2008, 09:35:24 PM
Sounds interesting, but it's kind of expensive, and from the sounds of it, it takes a lot to get high. I'd really like to try it sometime if I can find a way to get around my parents when ordering it.
$10 on that site for a gram of the Ultra Enhanced Indo stuff. That'll get you plenty high; compare it to a dime of weed which will usually be bit less than a full gram and of shitty quality. And lung hurty. :(
Quote from: steal on April 16, 2008, 10:01:30 PM
Yeah, that sounds like a great buy. I only looked at the Thai Kratom, which was $19 a gram. Is the Thai Kratom worth the extra bucks?
No, you misread. The Thai variety is $19/
ounce. That's about 28g, and you need 5-10g (varies a lot per peson on that stuff) to get a decent high. So I guess it's a bit more economical, but it's annoying because you have to take more at once (and trust me, getting 10g of kratom down is not a culinary adventure you want to have).
Also, the Thai variety is less of a full-featured kratom strand. It's
very mellow... in fact, the times I've tried it, I hardly got any stimulation, and just pure relaxation/anti-anxiety. If that's what you want, go for it -- it's still good kratom. I recommend the UEI, though, because you have to take 1/10 the amount to feel effects, and it's more "full spectrum" because they saturate it with more of the alkaloids that produce all the various effects.
If you want to try the stuff, just get a gram of UEI and see if you like it. If you do, you can try the Thai stuff, but you'll be disappointed.
One thing to note: never ever ever ever ever ever buy Bali kratom. It all comes from one or two fields and is shitty and awful.