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Title: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Blaze-Senpai on November 09, 2007, 11:47:59 PM
Okay first of all, I use Vista Business in school for Computer Networking for 2 & 1/2 hours everyday under the administrative account, so I do mess with it from time to time.

My problems with it would be:

The hardware requirements. Why do you need a 128MB card to run transparency at 1680x1050? I can run Transparency on Windows XP at 1920x1080 and still not have problems using only 64MB. Itself at startup uses over 600MB of RAM (but XP only uses maybe ~160 when you first install it, i'm comparing those two together). Even though Aero looks nice (But gets a bit "Meh" over time) it's not worth it honestly.

They rearranged too many things with the start menu, control panel, and all the other odd shortcuts of XP, which annoys me because I was looking for the correct network connections page for about 10 minutes (SO many god damn subdirectories). UAC isn't as annoying as I thought it would be, but it seems pointless in some areas (Resourse Manager? Why does it need permission to monitor disk usage?) Not to mention that sometimes Explorer windows will randomly lock up (User accounts mainly) forcing me to kill explorer.exe.

I'm not even going to go into programs that won't run on Vista for whatever problems it might have.

What do I like about it though? Nothing anymore, Aero's wow wore off the beginning of october, and that was the only thing I liked about it to begin with.

K i'm done, comments or questions (Besides "duh, stupid")
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: guff on November 10, 2007, 11:29:58 AM
If this is supposed to be about what you "really think about Vista", then why are you just comparing it to its predecessor? psyduck;
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Blaze-Senpai on November 10, 2007, 12:12:12 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 10, 2007, 11:29:58 AM
If this is supposed to be about what you "really think about Vista", then why are you just comparing it to its predecessor? psyduck;
Because... It was 12 am when i wrote it, and that's the only thing I can compare it to at the moment.

Wait, what? psyduck;
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Daddy on November 10, 2007, 02:29:54 PM
But it's better than OS X m i rite?
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Title27GT on November 10, 2007, 08:16:14 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 10, 2007, 02:29:54 PM
But it's better than OS X m i rite?
it can run games rock
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Blaze-Senpai on November 10, 2007, 10:09:12 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 10, 2007, 02:29:54 PM
But it's better than OS X m i rite?
Sure, since almost all programs are made for it..
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Title27GT on November 11, 2007, 09:51:06 AM
Quote from: Blaziken Prince on November 10, 2007, 10:09:12 PM
Sure, since almost all programs are made for it..
are we still talking about vista
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Blaze-Senpai on November 11, 2007, 10:52:13 AM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 11, 2007, 09:51:06 AM
are we still talking about vista
No, windows in general psyduck;
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Title27GT on November 11, 2007, 10:55:44 AM
Quote from: Blaziken Prince on November 11, 2007, 10:52:13 AM
No, windows in general psyduck;
tell me one thing you can do on Windows that you can't do on a Mac.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Daddy on November 11, 2007, 10:57:52 AM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 11, 2007, 10:55:44 AM
tell me one thing you can do on Windows that you can't do on a Mac.
whine about how something doesn't work.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Tomboh on November 11, 2007, 12:08:06 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 11, 2007, 10:55:44 AM
tell me one thing you can do on Windows that you can't do on a Mac.
buy a top-end computer for it that doesnt cost $1500+
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Daddy on November 11, 2007, 12:09:08 PM
Quote from: Punta Tombo on November 11, 2007, 12:08:06 PM
buy a top-end computer for it that doesnt cost $1500+
wut actually a "top end" for windows would cost more than that too
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Tomboh on November 11, 2007, 12:14:27 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 11, 2007, 12:09:08 PM
wut actually a "top end" for windows would cost more than that too
lol wut

By top-end, I really mean a bit better than average. if i meant s00per top end then an Apple computer would be like $20,000+.

A better than average Mac would be about $1500-$2000, a better than average Windows computer would be about $1000.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Title27GT on November 11, 2007, 01:10:44 PM
Quote from: Punta Tombo on November 11, 2007, 12:14:27 PM
lol wut

By top-end, I really mean a bit better than average. if i meant s00per top end then an Apple computer would be like $20,000+.

A better than average Mac would be about $1500-$2000, a better than average Windows computer would be about $1000.

Apple doesn't really sell anything BUT top-end computers...
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 11, 2007, 01:58:53 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 11, 2007, 01:10:44 PM
Apple doesn't really sell anything BUT top-end computers...
Mac Mini.

... caterpie;
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Feynman on November 11, 2007, 03:38:53 PM
Quote from: Blaziken Prince on November 10, 2007, 12:12:12 PM
Because... It was 12 am when i wrote it, and that's the only thing I can compare it to at the moment.

Wait, what? psyduck;


Then don't write it. psyduck;
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: guff on November 11, 2007, 03:50:58 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 11, 2007, 01:10:44 PM
Apple doesn't really sell anything BUT top-end computers...
1 GB of memory isn't exactly top-end psyduck;

Quote from: Bassir C. on November 11, 2007, 03:38:53 PM
Then don't write it. psyduck;
that's right you better defend your point
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Kingoftherings on November 11, 2007, 11:46:41 PM
About Aero, I think it needs that VRAM to avoid redraw errors.  Ever notice how in Vista you can drag a window all over the place, and it won't leave a big shite space on another window you just dragged across?  XP had redraw errors all the time, and Vista with Aero does not.

And Windows new Control Panel layout and all those other things, is still easier than Linux's filesystem layout.   psyduck;
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Blaze-Senpai on November 12, 2007, 12:16:58 AM
Quote from: Kingoftherings on November 11, 2007, 11:46:41 PM
About Aero, I think it needs that VRAM to avoid redraw errors.  Ever notice how in Vista you can drag a window all over the place, and it won't leave a big shite space on another window you just dragged across?  XP had redraw errors all the time, and Vista with Aero does not.

And Windows new Control Panel layout and all those other things, is still easier than Linux's filesystem layout.   psyduck;
Yeah.. I did notice none (Absolutley NONE) of the windows tear, no matter how much I drag them across the screen. XP does it constantly.

Quote from: Kingoftherings on November 11, 2007, 11:46:41 PM
About Aero, I think it needs that VRAM to avoid redraw errors.  Ever notice how in Vista you can drag a window all over the place, and it won't leave a big shite space on another window you just dragged across?  XP had redraw errors all the time, and Vista with Aero does not.

And Windows new Control Panel layout and all those other things, is still easier than Linux's filesystem layout.   psyduck;
reason 1 why Linux is for advanced users.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Kingoftherings on November 12, 2007, 09:54:52 AM
Quote from: Blaziken Prince on November 12, 2007, 12:16:58 AM
Yeah.. I did notice none (Absolutley NONE) of the windows tear, no matter how much I drag them across the screen. XP does it constantly.
reason 1 why Linux is for advanced users.
Yeah, they just need to replace the folders like etc, var, usr, bin, and stuff to something that somebody might understand.   psyduck;

So I just shove everything in my home folder.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Blaze-Senpai on November 12, 2007, 11:12:27 AM
Quote from: Kingoftherings on November 12, 2007, 09:54:52 AM
Yeah, they just need to replace the folders like etc, var, usr, bin, and stuff to something that somebody might understand.   psyduck;

So I just shove everything in my home folder.
Doesn't that make it more confusing?
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: guff on November 12, 2007, 12:24:09 PM
Quote from: Kingoftherings on November 12, 2007, 09:54:52 AM
Yeah, they just need to replace the folders like etc, var, usr, bin, and stuff to something that somebody might understand.   psyduck;
what the christ do you not understand  psyduck;

ps read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard) if you're still retarded by the time you finish reading this sentence
at least the damn thing is standardized and organized
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Kingoftherings on November 12, 2007, 12:29:26 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 12, 2007, 12:24:09 PM
what the christ do you not understand  psyduck;

ps read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard) if you're still retarded by the time you finish reading this sentence
at least the damn thing is standardized and organized
*Bookmarks*   china;

It makes more sense that way.  :P
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Daddy on November 12, 2007, 12:29:50 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 12, 2007, 12:24:09 PM
what the christ do you not understand  psyduck;

ps read this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard) if you're still retarded by the time you finish reading this sentence
at least the damn thing is standardized and organized
eww organized files r stupid.

i love searching for files.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Title27GT on November 14, 2007, 07:55:08 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 11, 2007, 03:50:58 PM
1 GB of memory isn't exactly top-end psyduck;
then spend 60 dollars and make it top end you idiot
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: guff on November 15, 2007, 01:24:46 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 14, 2007, 07:55:08 PM
then spend 60 dollars and make it top end you idiot
why should i have to upgrade an already expensive computer

also to upgrade an imac to 2gb through apple (which joe consumer would likely do) is $150
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Daddy on November 15, 2007, 01:32:08 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 15, 2007, 01:24:46 PM
why should i have to upgrade an already expensive computer

also to upgrade an imac to 2gb through apple (which joe consumer would likely do) is $150
what country is that last name from
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: guff on November 15, 2007, 01:38:39 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 15, 2007, 01:32:08 PM
what country is that last name from
the land of convenience
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Daddy on November 15, 2007, 01:50:11 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 15, 2007, 01:38:39 PM
the land of convenience
is that next to hong kong
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Blaze-Senpai on November 15, 2007, 05:14:29 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 15, 2007, 01:50:11 PM
is that next to hong kong
Is hong kong a state?
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: The artist formally known on November 16, 2007, 12:05:16 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 11, 2007, 10:55:44 AM
tell me one thing you can do on Windows that you can't do on a Mac.
Right click
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Daddy on November 16, 2007, 03:44:49 PM
Quote from: reefer on November 16, 2007, 12:05:16 PM
Right click
[IMG]http://i3.tinypic.com/72a4940.png[/img]
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: guff on November 16, 2007, 04:34:48 PM
Quote from: JMV290 on November 16, 2007, 03:44:49 PM
[IMG]http://i3.tinypic.com/72a4940.png[/img]
i'm pretty sure he was just joshing you

but right clicking on the damn mightyblah thing on the power mac g5 i use doesn't always work
and the scroll ball is too small and hard to use and apple sucks when it comes to making and utilizing input devices oh my god

anyways you could just be control-clicking :|
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Title27GT on November 16, 2007, 07:58:29 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 16, 2007, 04:34:48 PM
i'm pretty sure he was just joshing you

but right clicking on the damn mightyblah thing on the power mac g5 i use doesn't always work
and the scroll ball is too small and hard to use and apple sucks when it comes to making and utilizing input devices oh my god

anyways you could just be control-clicking :|
GOD DAMNIT, THE MIGHTY MOUSE IS FINE. RIGHT CLICKING IS JUST AS FUCKING EASY AS ANY OTHER MOUSE. THE SCROLL BALL IS 360 DEGREES AND IT WORKS FINE.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: ncba93ivyase on November 17, 2007, 12:00:18 AM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 16, 2007, 07:58:29 PM
GOD DAMNIT, THE MIGHTY MOUSE IS FINE. RIGHT CLICKING IS JUST AS FUCKING EASY AS ANY OTHER MOUSE. THE SCROLL BALL IS 360 DEGREES AND IT WORKS FINE.
The scroll ball sucks and has a 2937845637% failure rate.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Title27GT on November 17, 2007, 10:04:36 AM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 17, 2007, 12:00:18 AM
The scroll ball sucks and has a 2937845637% failure rate.
i should point out that mine has not yet had even a minor hiccup
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: guff on November 17, 2007, 11:56:34 AM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 16, 2007, 07:58:29 PM
GOD DAMNIT, THE MIGHTY MOUSE IS FINE. RIGHT CLICKING IS JUST AS FUCKING EASY AS ANY OTHER MOUSE.

THE SCROLL BALL IS 360 DEGREES AND IT WORKS FINE.
then why does it occasionally register a right click as a left click
hey apple- making actual buttons wouldn't be that bad of an idea

too tiny to be as usable as a normal scroll wheel
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Title27GT on November 19, 2007, 12:59:10 PM
Quote from: Commodore Guff on November 17, 2007, 11:56:34 AM
then why does it occasionally register a right click as a left click
hey apple- making actual buttons wouldn't be that bad of an idea

too tiny to be as usable as a normal scroll wheel
okay thats never happened to me :| It does occasionally lag for a few seconds but other than that I haven't had a problem besides the scroll ball being not all that comfortable for everyday use.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Infel on November 19, 2007, 05:16:22 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 19, 2007, 12:59:10 PM
okay thats never happened to me :| It does occasionally lag for a few seconds but other than that I haven't had a problem besides the scroll ball being not all that comfortable for everyday use.
Input devices, such as Game pads or Mice should not lag. Every other thing, there's room for it.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Title27GT on November 19, 2007, 06:42:53 PM
Quote from: KT on November 19, 2007, 05:16:22 PM
Input devices, such as Game pads or Mice should not lag. Every other thing, there's room for it.
maybe it's because I just woke up the computer and the bluetooth hasn't synced with it completely wtc;
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Infel on November 19, 2007, 06:55:33 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 19, 2007, 06:42:53 PM
maybe it's because I just woke up the computer and the bluetooth hasn't synced with it completely wtc;
NOT A FUCKING EXCUSE.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Title27GT on November 19, 2007, 06:57:03 PM
Quote from: KT on November 19, 2007, 06:55:33 PM
NOT A FUCKING EXCUSE.
Yes it is, it means the computer has to re-enable bluetooth and if the signal hasn't amplified yet than it has nothing to do with the fucking input device now go kill yourself
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Infel on November 19, 2007, 07:00:41 PM
Quote from: Joba Chamberlain on November 19, 2007, 06:57:03 PM
Yes it is, it means the computer has to re-enable bluetooth and if the signal hasn't amplified yet than it has nothing to do with the fucking input device now go kill yourself
I'd not consider that lag. That's abuse
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: Kingoftherings on November 21, 2007, 01:43:28 PM
Quote from: Title on November 19, 2007, 06:42:53 PM
maybe it's because I just woke up the computer and the bluetooth hasn't synced with it completely wtc;
Bluetooth sucks and shouldn't be used for anything.
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: unwelc0med on November 21, 2007, 01:45:47 PM
Quote from: Lawlz on November 17, 2007, 12:00:18 AM
The scroll ball sucks and has a 2937845637% failure rate.

wtflol
Title: Re: Huh... What I really think about Vista
Post by: mariofreak on November 24, 2007, 08:34:45 PM
Quote from: Title on November 19, 2007, 06:57:03 PM
Yes it is, it means the computer has to re-enable bluetooth and if the signal hasn't amplified yet than it has nothing to do with the fucking input device now go kill yourself
My mouse doesn't do that. KT is right, there's no fucking excuse for your mouse sucking. You admitted it has lag, and there's no excuse for that.