New Main Pokemon titles on the way?

[TooB]

I think this announcement is actually kinda funny, because only a day or two ago, i was talking to kaz about how we haven't had a new main pokemon in a while, let alone news of one.

boom

[YPrrrr]

Red/Blue/Yellow also work with Pokebank!

It's a little surprising, but not groundbreaking.

There's really nothing worth transferring over from Gen1.

Notably, they announced that transfers from Gen1 cannot be withdrawn from Gen6 games. You can only withdraw them into Sun/Moon. That really doesn't make much sense to me, considering nothing about Gen6 should be inadequate for storing these and these VC releases are happening so long before Sun/Moon.

Souce: http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-bank/

You can get Mew in RBY without an event or hack so there's that

[Thyme]

you finally get to push the truck?

[YPrrrr]

you finally get to push the truck?

Lol

Just in case anyone is unaware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QGILo0SZyI

[C.Mongler]

i didnt watch the direct, but did they actually confirm moon and sun or whatever are actually main series titles

what if they are the happy home designer of pokemens

[Classic]

I will be buying Yellow on the 3DS VC.

I've never really played a Pokemon game. At least to the end. If I like it, I will continue looking into Pokemon games. That includes Sun and Moon.

[bluaki]

you finally get to push the truck?

Lol

Just in case anyone is unaware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QGILo0SZyI

The Gen1 games have enough exploits that players can, without any cheating device, do absolutely anything they want to the game's memory if they know how.

Want a Fire-type Bulbasaur? You can do that. A Diglett that knows Fly? Go ahead. Want to rewrite the game into Tetris? It takes a while, but it's doable.

i didnt watch the direct, but did they actually confirm moon and sun or whatever are actually main series titles

what if they are the happy home designer of pokemens

Sun and Moon are proper Pokémon games on 3DS in which you can catch Pokémon, trade, and transfer forward your Pokémon from existing games. They introduce new locations and new Pokémon species.

Beyond that, it's vague. Do we have 8 gyms, an Elite Four, a villainous team, a legendary from the boxart? Six Pokémon on your team at once, held items, the same battle system we've always had, three starter Pokémon that are grass/fire/water? Probably, but unconfirmed.

[YPrrrr]

you finally get to push the truck?

Lol
Just in case anyone is unaware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QGILo0SZyI

The Gen1 games have enough exploits that players can, without any cheating device, do absolutely anything they want to the game's memory if they know how.

Want a Fire-type Bulbasaur? You can do that. A Diglett that knows Fly? Go ahead. Want to rewrite the game into Tetris? It takes a while, but it's doable.

Can you link me to examples of those

I mean if accurate then there is definitely an advantage to being able to upload from Gen 1

[Thyme]

Beyond that, it's vague. Do we have 8 gyms, an Elite Four, a villainous team, a legendary from the boxart? Six Pokémon on your team at once, held items, the same battle system we've always had, three starter Pokémon that are grass/fire/water? Probably, but unconfirmed.

well while we're at it more than four moves per pkmn would be nice

[bluaki]

Come to think of it, considering how much The Pokémon Company is really pushing for gen1 nostalgia this year, I wouldn't put it past them to implement Missingno in Bank/Sun/Moon as an easter egg for people who transfer it over from Gen1.

The biggest reason I'd doubt it is that Missingno is very different between American and Japanese games; Japan doesn't have the memorable backwards-L-shaped appearance and I don't think their glitches are as well-known.

[bluaki]

Can you link me to examples of those

I mean if accurate then there is definitely an advantage to being able to upload from Gen 1

I just made those up. I know they're all possible, but I don't know the exact procedure to get them and don't feel like examining/calculating it out.

Pokémon Bank already has very extensive legitimacy checks for imports from Gen5 games. I imagine they'll do the same for Gen1 imports and block anything with types, levels, moves, dex numbers, etc. that it doesn't like. In particular, with the way the data structure works in newer games, even if they tried to import a Fire-type Bulbasaur its typing data would just get discarded anyway.

[C.Mongler]

aw man i really wanted to decoarte my pikachu's house 

[YPrrrr]

Can you link me to examples of those

I mean if accurate then there is definitely an advantage to being able to upload from Gen 1

I just made those up. I know they're all possible, but I don't know the exact procedure to get them and don't feel like examining/calculating it out.

Pokémon Bank already has very extensive legitimacy checks for imports from Gen5 games. I imagine they'll do the same for Gen1 imports and block anything with types, levels, moves, dex numbers, etc. that it doesn't like. In particular, with the way the data structure works in newer games, even if they tried to import a Fire-type Bulbasaur its typing data would just get discarded anyway.

I don't think you can switch types legitimately and I dunno about moves but there is a bunch of funky stuff yeah. But the Mew is legit, no fakeness or false IDs

[bluaki]

I don't think you can switch types legitimately and I dunno about moves but there is a bunch of funky stuff yeah. But the Mew is legit, no fakeness or false IDs

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_data_structure_in_Generation_I

For Pokémon you already own, full RAM control (the most generic exploit there is) can let you manipulate all of these fields. Even though it's seemingly redundant with the data from the table of species data, each creature does have its own type fields that can conflict with what newly-generated/legitimate creatures of that species should have.

Full RAM control can be had with either interrupting a save and rearranging a huge inventory or by obtaining and using a glitch item that offers arbitrary code execution.

Of course, messing with this data directly is very likely to give you results that very obviously don't look like a legitimate Pokémon. Something like that Mew is a wild encounter, so as long as the ID and level are appropriate it looks mostly fine. Because Mew is an event-only Pokémon, though, Bank can easily be designed to verify that the particular Mew you're importing matches the events they're planning in terms of OT and IVs, or it might simply reject all Mews from English games since that's a Japan-only event.

[TooB]

Lol... pokemon s&m...