Nintendo Switch Thread Consolidation

[bluaki]

There have been so many conflicting "leaks" about NX processing power being reported from "very reliable sources"

One leak claimed it's not at all competitive with PS4/Xbone in terms of power
Another leak claimed it's x86/AMD and well above PS4/Xbone in terms of power
Another claimed that the console is ARM and well below PS4/Xbone performance
Another claimed again that it's AMD and more powerful than PS4/Xbone, perhaps on par with PS4K
The most recent one claims that it's ARM, running NVIDIA Tegra (well below PS4/Xbone in performance) and that the console will be revealed at E3 2016.

I doubt the NVIDIA rumor in particular, considering Nintendo has been using ATI GPUs for 15 years now in consoles and all their handhelds' ARM chips have been manufactured in Japan, not to mention an E3 mention that directly contradicts one of the very few things that Nintendo has said.

[FAMY2]

I hope Nintendo comes up with something amazing. I doubt it though because they are so far behind the game in so many ways. Glad I didn't buy a Wii U. And I won't buy another of their game consoles until they make huge improvements.

I don't understand all the stuff you guys talk about but I do see the end product as crap. Here's to an amazing E3.

[C.Mongler]

i don't understand anyone who buys a console, period lol they're all fucking bad

[squirrelfriend]

i can't afford a nice pc rig so i rather buy a console that will have a reasonable shelf life and can expect to have games that will run on it through its lifecycle

i would like to build a really powerful htpc eventually that will allow me to play pc games on a television since like you can use some as a monitor as well i guess

[C.Mongler]

>30 fps
>"run"

[Thyme]

60+ fps is objectively better but 30 fps is subjectively acceptable to me imo

[squirrelfriend]

>30 fps
>"run"

that's an acceptable tradeoff to me
it's not like i bought a pc gaming rig
eventually i would like both tbh

[C.Mongler]

i mean it's literally standable, but i don't understand why you would have a preference for 30 over 60 whoops i misread your post and i already typed all this shit up oh well; shit looks mad janky comparatively. especially considering most AAA+ games dip below 30 regularly, which OH GOEUADHGD. like i love bloodborne but holy fuck the framedrops make me nauseous sometimes

[spoiler]>implying my pc isnt complete shit and like i didn't play witcher 3 at 35 fps lolol, can't wait to get my 1080 and play the expansions at a needless 200 fps[/spoiler]

but yeah its night and day m8(make sure u got this bitch set 2 HD)
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that's an acceptable tradeoff to me

*vomits a little*

but what are u even trading

trading saving 100 dollars (which will inevitably be eaten by online service fees and console game markup) for inflexible outdated tech?

ANYWAY this is off topic can we return to discussing nintendo's latest polished turd sorry glorious leaders i did not mean to lead us astray

[squirrelfriend]

i'm buying the nx to play animal crossing and pokemon primarily
oh and if tokyo mirage sessions gets ported to the nx i'll buy it p. much

[squirrelfriend]

i think it would suck that i would have to keep buying graphics cards every two years or something idk how pc gaming is nowadays

[C.Mongler]

actually pc gaming is nothing like it was in the days of the constant GPU upgrades of the 90s because console progression has slowed down so fucking much. i have purchased one GPU in the past 6 years, and honestly could stay on this one at console performance for probably another 2 years or so; i'm just getting a 1080 because i want to treat myself and hopefully be future-proofed for the next decade.

but yeah ill probably get an NX anyway because im retarded and i too like animal crossing 

[Kalahari Inkantation]

official confirmation of the existence of both the xbox 1.5 and ps4k means that the nx won't even have the advantage of being the technically most powerful console on the market when it launches

so nintendo is once again rushing itself into another wii u situation (though this time inadvertently) - it's engineering the nx from the ground up to compete with a pair of soon-to-be-decommissioned platforms

except it's even worse this time because the wii u could at least claim to be the most powerful available console for about a year before the ps4 and xbox one eclipsed it

the one possible silver lining for nintendo is that microsoft and sony are both stipulating that all games must be playable on both 'versions' of their respective platforms (though i'm absolutely certain that in reality this will be weakly enforced), so maybe if nintendo is extremely fortunate and plays nicely with third parties they might still get some scraps

but sony and microsoft have decisively shifted the new hardware awe away from nintendo and towards themselves, and elevated the industry into a new technical standard that nintendo simply can't meet on such short notice

.........guys, even zelda might not be able to save the nx

[bluaki]

To be fair, the release window of the PS4 Neo isn't exactly confirmed yet. Xbone S isn't meaningfully more powerful than the original Xbone while the Scorpio is launching well after the NX (but still the same year).

NX specs are also far from confirmed. As far as we know, it could be on par with or even better than (lol) the PS4 Neo. With everybody striking deals with AMD at the same time, they'll probably get pretty similar hardware unless Nintendo insists on its recent special strategy again.

[C.Mongler]

also the reason the wii u failed was not total dependent on its horsepower. that thing had a wide array of problems from marketing being a huge one, to UI, to architecture, to my nut sack. the wii did fine and was a huger gap between the 360 and ps3 to what the NX will probably be to the Neo. and even then, we dont even know what the full extent of those console upgrades will be considering their libraries are touted to be fully compatible with the vanilla consoles too.

can we at least wait until these things launch, or at the very least have solid fucking details before we start shit slinging lol this is all wild speculation.

[Kalahari Inkantation]

also the reason the wii u failed was not total dependent on its horsepower. that thing had a wide array of problems from marketing being a huge one, to UI, to architecture, to my nut sack. the wii did fine and was a huger gap between the 360 and ps3 to what the NX will probably be to the Neo. and even then, we dont even know what the full extent of those console upgrades will be considering their libraries are touted to be fully compatible with the vanilla consoles too.

i personally believe that the wii u's ridiculous, ambiguous name (and godawful """marketing""" in general) is the single biggest reason it bombed, but every single one of its faults contributed to its failure, and its relative weakness is certainly one of its most significant faults

the wii succeeded in spite of its weakness because it appealed to "casuals", who today are adequately satiated by iphone apps

the loss of that market might not have been quite so devastating for nintendo had the wii u at least been powerful enough to appeal to hardxxre gamers and third party devs, it could still very well have been a compelling system had it been capable of offering third party content of xbox one-level fidelity plus the typical slew of nintendo first parties

but that wasn't an option because it was far too weak, and as an unattractive platform to both casuals with iphones and hrdxre gamers with ps4s, the only people to whom the wii u seemed enticing are the tiny core nintendo fanbase

if nintendo finds itself in that same situation again with the nx, i can't see an avenue for recovery

and even then, we dont even know what the full extent of those console upgrades will be considering their libraries are touted to be fully compatible with the vanilla consoles too.

and this is true but like i said earlier i suspect it'll be weakly enforced

also it's worth noting that there were several transitional years during which many aaa games were made available on both current and last-gen platforms

the wii u's specs slightly exceed those last-gen platforms, and yet it got almost none of those intergenerational titles, so there's no guarantee that nintendo will see third party support on a weaker nx even if compatibility between the ps4/xbox one and ps4k/xbox 1.5 is maintained in earnest

[spoiler]

i mean there's no guarantee they'll see any considerable third party support no matter what they do but being powerful enough to make porting as painless as possible would certainly help[/spoiler]

can we at least wait until these things launch, or at the very least have solid fucking details before we start shit slinging lol

absolutely not

With everybody striking deals with AMD at the same time, they'll probably get pretty similar hardware unless Nintendo insists on its recent special strategy again.

this might be the best case scenario for them, but somehow i doubt nintendo would have found it necessary to significantly add to its manufacturing expenses (and nx's final msrp) to make the nx several times more powerful than the ps4/xbox one unless they somehow anticipated the ps4k and xbox 1.5