bad games you've played recently

[TooB]

I don't dislike ffxiii, though I don't really like playing as most of the characters

agreed
forcing you to play as certain characters for 2/3 of the game is stupid

so..... FF4 is stupid too?

for the time period ffxiii exists in, with open-world gameplay being an expectation, yes i'd say xiii is stupid

i asked about 4.
and thats not really a good reason.

i'm using the local definition of a 'bad game' based on the OP made by Lawlz, by the way

if we're going by lawlz's standards, then every game is a "bad game"

[Thyme]

i wouldn't have to play ffxiii and ffxiii-2 to know the story

spoony is telling me it

[TooB]

i wouldn't have to play ffxiii and ffxiii-2 to know the story

spoony is telling me it

im sorry

[Thyme]

i wouldn't have to play ffxiii and ffxiii-2 to know the story

spoony is telling me it

im sorry

are you using the local definition of a 'bad internet '''celebrity''''

[PLEASEHELP1991]

i wouldn't have to play ffxiii and ffxiii-2 to know the story

spoony is telling me it

it's a very faithful adaptation too

[Nyerp]

spoony is a piece of shit

[Samus Aran]

there is no story for xiii

it's a bunch of vaguely connected ideas thrown at the corner of a room where the pile up and oops none of it makes sense

[Samus Aran]

The first step to ruining any remake of FFVII would be to change the battle system. I'm sorry but some of us like turned based RPG's.

xiii
i is turn based.
anyone who says otherwise hasnt played it.

vii is arguably not a traditional turn-based jrpg either because vii and xiii run on versions of the ATB system, though in vii there is a wait mode option

4-6 use the same

9 does as well

[TooB]

there is no story for xiii

it's a bunch of vaguely connected ideas thrown at the corner of a room where the pile up and oops none of it makes sense

oh come on...
there's obviously a story, just told really bad to where it makes no sense.
the problem is you have to read the synopsis for it to make any kind of sense.
that, and the story is more about the characters anyway, not the world around them.

[don't let's]

Like I said, anime

*rimshot*

[PLEASEHELP1991]

Like I said, anime

*rimshot*

agreed
And based on the datalogs in XIII that no one reads, they planned XIII-2 from the start

[PLEASEHELP1991]

The first step to ruining any remake of FFVII would be to change the battle system. I'm sorry but some of us like turned based RPG's.

xiii
i is turn based.
anyone who says otherwise hasnt played it.

vii is arguably not a traditional turn-based jrpg either because vii and xiii run on versions of the ATB system, though in vii there is a wait mode option

4-6 use the same

9 does as well

what about eight or is discussion about that forbidden as well

[Samus Aran]

there is no story for xiii

it's a bunch of vaguely connected ideas thrown at the corner of a room where the pile up and oops none of it makes sense

oh come on...
there's obviously a story, just told really bad to where it makes no sense.
the problem is you have to read the synopsis for it to make any kind of sense.
that, and the story is more about the characters anyway, not the world around them.

well if the story is about the characters, then it's the barest of the bare bones of character development

lightning goes from being stoic and lifeless to being still stoic but nicer and "accepting" of snow. it's like a "grumpy dad finally lets daughter marry the love of her life" movie. also, she has some weird mother-ish tendencies that develop for hope, but they're really vague and completely dropped once the whole gang reunites.

hope goes from having it out for snow to...being a really generic overly hopeful jrpg protagonist. not that there's anything entirely wrong with this, but he's not the main character and he himself doesn't overcome any odds that make this optimism worthwhile: in the end, fang and vanille still sacrifice themselves anyway. tbh, i have no idea what the gang was trying to achieve by fighting orphan because the focus was still fulfilled anyway???

vanille has no personality and no development ever

neither does fang??? these two characters are just sort of "there" most of the time. they have a history that comes up and a big "mystery" surrounding them and they end up dying to save the world in the end but that's about all we know??

sazh and snow have reasons and things to fight for and all but only snow's is really delved into a lot - sazh's thing with his son is really only part of like one chapter of the game and then he's just sort of there

i really don't think any of these characters ever develop much...to say that the story is more about them is fine i guess, but that's still really stretching it and there's not a whole lot there to go on. you could just say it's an archetypal story of people overcoming their "destinies" and choosing their own ways to live life, but that's just a summary - and one that applies to an awful lot of jrpgs with better stories, too.

i don't think ffxiii is garbage or anything, it was fun and there's nothing about it i totally hate or anything. but not even i can call its story good. it's not just the way it's told - there's not very much there to tell to begin with. but a big part of it is the way it's told, yes. in that it isn't told. except in boring-ass summaries while the chapters are loading.

[The Hand That Fisted Everyone]

nvr played 8

[Samus Aran]

i haven't really played 8 so that's why i didn't include it when i said that