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Redraw the EU in twenty years

Started by ME##, August 21, 2010, 04:34:11 PM

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ME##

Quote from: Aracde on August 21, 2010, 06:05:17 PM
Good quarter, Germany? lol  It's a small feat when you compare all that the British have done.

I didn't say I liked Sweden for it's history, which isn't all that great.


I don't see how you can scoff at the only developed nation actually having strong [even if unmaintainable] growth.  And it strengthens the argument inside Germany to go back to the Deutsche mark and forge their own path since the rest of the Eurozone is lagging behind.


What do you like about Sweden?  There's not much to like about them, unless you have a thing for Volvos and blondes. confuseddood;

YPrrrr

Quote from: Aracde on August 21, 2010, 06:10:16 PM
Keyword: helped durr hurr

Germany is likely not going to be there in the next 50 years.  India, Brazil, and Mexico are expected to surpass it.  
Is that a typo for Italy, Greece, and the UK?

wawi

I like David's vision. I can only see Germany staying if some of the southern countries leave, like you showed. If they don't, I don't think they will stay. Also, I can't imagine Iceland ever wanting to join the EU (amirite Nigel Farage?).

spaceman

Quote from: Quis sum? on August 21, 2010, 06:11:30 PM
are you suggesting alaska should secede from the US

No I think he's suggesting Bermuda someone moves a couple hundred miles north.

ME##

Quote from: CAPTAIN AMERICA on August 21, 2010, 06:14:14 PM
I like David's vision. I can only see Germany staying if some of the southern countries leave, like you showed. If they don't, I don't think they will stay. Also, I can't imagine Iceland ever wanting to join the EU (amirite Nigel Farage?).

baddood;


And yes. Icelanders, Norwegians and the Swiss are all very much against joining the EU.


They almost had the Norwegians, but the recent bout of problems with Southern Europe swayed most of their opinions back into negative territory. n_u

Aracde

August 21, 2010, 06:17:44 PM #35 Last Edit: August 21, 2010, 06:20:46 PM by Aracde
Quote from: Ãâ,¬mbørthümbsee on August 21, 2010, 06:12:15 PM
I don't see how you can scoff at the only developed nation actually having strong [even if unmaintainable] growth.  And it strengthens the argument inside Germany to go back to the Deutsche mark and forge their own path since the rest of the Eurozone is lagging behind.


What do you like about Sweden?  There's not much to like about them, unless you have a thing for Volvos and blondes. confuseddood;

I like the Swedish because most of the ones I've met are really nice people. lol That's just me though.

Because having a good economy in Europe has happened too often to too many countries to think it a great feat, specially for how recent it has been.

Aracde

Quote from: YPR on August 21, 2010, 06:13:06 PM
Is that a typo for Italy, Greece, and the UK?
No.  Russia and Indonesia are also expected to surpass it.

ME##

Quote from: Aracde on August 21, 2010, 06:17:44 PM
I like the Swedish because most of the ones I've met are really nice people. lol That's just me though.

Because having a good economy in Europe has happened to too often to too many countries to think it a great feat, specially for how recent it has been.


Hmm, they are fairly nice people, I'll give you that. 



But the fact is that most of Europe at the moment is having a fairly poor time economically.  Just look at PIGS.

Aracde

Quote from: Ãâ,¬mbørthümbsee on August 21, 2010, 06:21:39 PM
Hmm, they are fairly nice people, I'll give you that. 



But the fact is that most of Europe at the moment is having a fairly poor time economically.  Just look at PIGS.
You should include Iceland in that acronym. 

YPrrrr

Quote from: Aracde on August 21, 2010, 06:17:44 PM
Because having a good economy in Europe has happened too often to too many countries to think it a great feat, specially for how recent it has been.
Germany has had a pretty strong economy since the latter half of the 1800s... The US economy got going within a century earlier, where is the line drawn for 'recent'
Quote from: Aracde on August 21, 2010, 06:18:57 PM
No.  Russia and Indonesia are also expected to surpass it.
I'm still not seeing where the UK, Italy and Greece redeem themselves. You may as well talk up the Babylonians or Egyptians as far as Italy and Greece go

ME##

Quote from: Aracde on August 21, 2010, 06:23:36 PM
You should include Iceland in that acronym. 


And Ireland at that rate too. befuddlement

Aracde

Quote from: YPR on August 21, 2010, 06:24:12 PM
Germany has had a pretty strong economy since the latter half of the 1800s... The US economy got going within a century earlier, where is the line drawn for 'recent'I'm still not seeing where the UK, Italy and Greece redeem themselves. You may as well talk up the Babylonians or Egyptians as far as Italy and Greece go
Maybe I should.  I don't see why I shouldn't.  History is still relevant.  We still rely on a lot of those country's people you know.   Actually Germany's has had some really rocky economic moments since that time.  I don't know why you would say that.

YPrrrr

Quote from: Aracde on August 21, 2010, 06:29:37 PM
Maybe I should.  I don't see why I shouldn't.  History is still relevant.  We still rely on a lot of those country's people you know.   Actually Germany's has had some really rocky economic moments since that time.  I don't know why you would say that.
BECAUSE THEY ARE LARGELY IRRELEVANT ON TODAY'S GLOBAL SCALE AND THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE NEXT 20 YEARS, NOT THE PAST 3000.

You cannot seriously point out Germany's rocky economic moments as a flaw while talking up Greece who is currently on its knees begging for Europe to force Germany into bailing it out

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Thank you david n_n[/spoiler]

Aracde

Quote from: YPR on August 21, 2010, 06:36:43 PM
BECAUSE THEY ARE LARGELY IRRELEVANT ON TODAY'S GLOBAL SCALE AND THIS THREAD IS ABOUT THE NEXT 20 YEARS, NOT THE PAST 3000.

You cannot seriously point out Germany's rocky economic moments as a flaw while talking up Greece who is currently on its knees begging for Europe to force Germany into bailing it out

[spoiler]

Thank you david n_n[/spoiler]
Because Germany's economy wasn't complete trash after WWI?  Nice Smiley. Also, I did because you mentioned Germany's current history only. 

ME##

Quote from: Aracde on August 21, 2010, 06:42:22 PM
Because Germany's economy wasn't complete trash after WWI?  Nice Smiley.


A lot of countries suffered after World War I, it wasn't only Germany.  Sure the US may have seen false good times in its cities, but most Americans who lived off their farms suffered long before 1929.  confuseddood;

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