I'm going to kill myself.

[sans culottes]

[Travis]

i was created by my mommy

[??????]

I was seriously going to do that some days ago.
I've decided it was retarded when someone said a lyric to me.

It was direct and awesome.

[Selkie]

Trust me, people believing in a higher power is the least of society's downfalls.

[Daddy]

Trust me, people believing in a higher power is the least of society's downfalls.

Letting it dictate everything you do, even when it's contradictory to logic and common decency is up there with the worst of society's downfalls.

[??????]

Letting it dictate everything you do, even when it's contradictory to logic and common decency is up there with the worst of society's downfalls.

Oh, you and your anti-religious attitude.

[the shortest route to the sea]

Religion gives the capacity for great good, I think. Spiritually most of all. And I think the day-to-day threat of religious thought is a lot worse than a lot of non-religiously motivated things in society: rape, theft, some murders, road rage, those fuckers at school, etc.

On the other hand...mostly in society good people do good things and bad people do bad things. Drugs and religion are the only two things that make good people do bad things. I can't endorse a lot of religious practices and belief system because they are so directly detrimental to the workings of society and its structure. It's something to be changed.

But spirituality itself is pure, while dogma and religion can have either good or bad aspects.

[Oh]

 Creationism has nothing to back it up as a theory. 

[Oh]

Oh, you and your anti-religious attitude.

People have been raised into thinking that religion is needed in order to have a nice society, that is why we have so many damn homophobes, racists, and sexists. 

[YPrrrr]

People have been raised into thinking that religion is needed in order to have a nice society, that is why we have so many damn homophobes, racists, and sexists. 

I seriously think those would have developed either way.

[YPrrrr]

On the other hand...mostly in society good people do good things and bad people do bad things. Drugs and religion are the only two things that make good people do bad things. I can't endorse a lot of religious practices and belief system because they are so directly detrimental to the workings of society and its structure. It's something to be changed.

I think that's a pretty large generalization to say those are the only two things that make good people do bad things... There are a large variety of reasons for people to change their habits

[Oh]

I seriously think those would have developed either way.

Probably not to the degree of what it is today, but maybe. And don't forget that it makes people think that praying works.

[the shortest route to the sea]

I think that's a pretty large generalization to say those are the only two things that make good people do bad things... There are a large variety of reasons for people to change their habits

And there's also, in my mind, no realistic way to differentiate "good people" and "bad people." That concept doesn't exist for me. But that slightly jokish line does point out the power of religion over the base of our thoughts, and the way we interpret the world morally. That moral power, and the tendency of religions to be based on large communities, can create this really detrimental singleminded moral mob, or it can make a wonderfully supportive powerful singleminded moral mob.

[YPrrrr]

Probably not to the degree of what it is today, but maybe. And don't forget that it makes people think that praying works.

I don't think anyone thinks praying is something that will grant whatever you desire... And I really believe people will just look for any difference to pick at and degrade others for. It's really not a result of religion.

To an athiest, religious is merely a fabrication, which was created by people. So to say that somehow religion instills the ideas of discrimination or encourages beyond the normal human capacity is ridiculous because hate has always existed

[YPrrrr]

And there's also, in my mind, no realistic way to differentiate "good people" and "bad people." That concept doesn't exist for me. But that slightly jokish line does point out the power of religion over the base of our thoughts, and the way we interpret the world morally. That moral power, and the tendency of religions to be based on large communities, can create this really detrimental singleminded moral mob, or it can make a wonderfully supportive powerful singleminded moral mob.

The same can be said of any political or geographic community... There's almost always going to be some sort of influence over a person's way of thinking and ethics