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Started by sans culottes, October 14, 2009, 08:50:22 PM

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I was seriously going to do that some days ago.
I've decided it was retarded when someone said a lyric to me.

It was direct and awesome.

Selkie

Trust me, people believing in a higher power is the least of society's downfalls.

Daddy

Quote from: Selkie on October 14, 2009, 10:12:21 PM
Trust me, people believing in a higher power is the least of society's downfalls.
Letting it dictate everything you do, even when it's contradictory to logic and common decency is up there with the worst of society's downfalls.

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Quote from: Ensign Halibar on October 14, 2009, 11:27:16 PM
Letting it dictate everything you do, even when it's contradictory to logic and common decency is up there with the worst of society's downfalls.
Oh, you and your anti-religious attitude.

the shortest route to the sea

Religion gives the capacity for great good, I think. Spiritually most of all. And I think the day-to-day threat of religious thought is a lot worse than a lot of non-religiously motivated things in society: rape, theft, some murders, road rage, those fuckers at school, etc.

On the other hand...mostly in society good people do good things and bad people do bad things. Drugs and religion are the only two things that make good people do bad things. I can't endorse a lot of religious practices and belief system because they are so directly detrimental to the workings of society and its structure. It's something to be changed.

But spirituality itself is pure, while dogma and religion can have either good or bad aspects.

Quote from: Socks on January 03, 2011, 09:56:24 PM
pompous talk for my eyes water and quiver with a twitch like a little bitch

Oh

 Creationism has nothing to back it up as a theory.  akudood;

Oh

Quote from: Freud and His Friend:Jung on October 14, 2009, 11:30:27 PM
Oh, you and your anti-religious attitude.
People have been raised into thinking that religion is needed in order to have a nice society, that is why we have so many damn homophobes, racists, and sexists.  akudood;

YPrrrr

Quote from: General Ackbar on October 15, 2009, 12:01:15 AM
People have been raised into thinking that religion is needed in order to have a nice society, that is why we have so many damn homophobes, racists, and sexists.  akudood;
I seriously think those would have developed either way.

YPrrrr

Quote from: Alyssa the Glowing Sole on October 14, 2009, 11:55:08 PM
On the other hand...mostly in society good people do good things and bad people do bad things. Drugs and religion are the only two things that make good people do bad things. I can't endorse a lot of religious practices and belief system because they are so directly detrimental to the workings of society and its structure. It's something to be changed.
I think that's a pretty large generalization to say those are the only two things that make good people do bad things... There are a large variety of reasons for people to change their habits

Oh

Quote from: YPR on October 15, 2009, 12:02:46 AM
I seriously think those would have developed either way.
Probably not to the degree of what it is today, but maybe. And don't forget that it makes people think that praying works.

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Quote from: YPR on October 15, 2009, 12:05:36 AM
I think that's a pretty large generalization to say those are the only two things that make good people do bad things... There are a large variety of reasons for people to change their habits


And there's also, in my mind, no realistic way to differentiate "good people" and "bad people." That concept doesn't exist for me. But that slightly jokish line does point out the power of religion over the base of our thoughts, and the way we interpret the world morally. That moral power, and the tendency of religions to be based on large communities, can create this really detrimental singleminded moral mob, or it can make a wonderfully supportive powerful singleminded moral mob.

Quote from: Socks on January 03, 2011, 09:56:24 PM
pompous talk for my eyes water and quiver with a twitch like a little bitch

YPrrrr

Quote from: General Ackbar on October 15, 2009, 12:05:38 AM
Probably not to the degree of what it is today, but maybe. And don't forget that it makes people think that praying works.
I don't think anyone thinks praying is something that will grant whatever you desire... And I really believe people will just look for any difference to pick at and degrade others for. It's really not a result of religion.

To an athiest, religious is merely a fabrication, which was created by people. So to say that somehow religion instills the ideas of discrimination or encourages beyond the normal human capacity is ridiculous because hate has always existed

YPrrrr

Quote from: Alyssa the Glowing Sole on October 15, 2009, 12:19:31 AM
And there's also, in my mind, no realistic way to differentiate "good people" and "bad people." That concept doesn't exist for me. But that slightly jokish line does point out the power of religion over the base of our thoughts, and the way we interpret the world morally. That moral power, and the tendency of religions to be based on large communities, can create this really detrimental singleminded moral mob, or it can make a wonderfully supportive powerful singleminded moral mob.
The same can be said of any political or geographic community... There's almost always going to be some sort of influence over a person's way of thinking and ethics

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