Tha Carter III

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I got no more to say to you.

Sign up here - http://niketalk.yuku.com/forums/16/t/Music.html - where we talk REAL music.

See you in a month b.

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Where we keep it real and not like music just because the artist is a legend. If it's trash, it's trash.

[Meyer Lansky]

Where we keep it real and not like music just because the artist is a legend. If it's trash, it's trash.

First thread I see - http://forums.sohh.com/showthread.php?t=1031999

I've been there and I left because there are nothing but stans there that you can't have real discussions with. Like I said, sign up where I be at, enlighten yourself a little.

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I don't need enlightening. I recognize every album you said as classics; I know Hip Hop.

BUT, It's not all about the lyrics. It's about timing and trends too, and him owning the position as a leader in Hip Hop.

If you can't accept that, you're seriously in denial.

[Meyer Lansky]

BUT, It's not all about the lyrics. It's about timing and trends too, and him owning the position as a leader in Hip Hop.

If you can't accept that, you're seriously in denial.

Wayne ain't even top 3 in THAT discussion.

kanYe
Jay
50
Wayne
Lupe

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Wayne ain't even top 3 in THAT discussion.

kanYe
Jay
50
Wayne
Lupe

50? Wow, get out this thread and don't come back.

I like 50, but lyrically he isn't on none of the people's level you just mentioned. He might be at 5 because he can make some hits, but when it comes to actual rapping and being the biggest in Hip Hop at this moment, the lists goes a little different.

Wayne
Kanye
Jay

After those, I don't care who you put, but that's how it goes.

Lil' wayne hasn't had in an album out before Tha Carter 3 for how long and remained the hottest out, having mixtapes considered better than most albums, and featuring on just about on every fucking person's song?

Come on man, let's give credit where it's due.

And in no way am I a Wayne stan. The dude isn't even in my list of top five favorite rappers. Just thought I'd let you know before you try to use that argument against me.

[Meyer Lansky]

Lil' wayne hasn't had in an album out before Tha Carter 3 for how long and remained the hottest out, having mixtapes considered better than most albums, and featuring on just about on every fucking person's song?

Come on man, let's give credit where it's due.

Funny, I hate 50 but there is no denying HIM the buzz he creates for ANYTHING that has to do with him.

Like I said, just because an album is hot does not mean it's a classic. Just because an artist is hot at the time does not mean he has ascended the ranks. All of those albums I named? Those are classics, they've stood the test of time. Jay-Z, Nas, OutKast, UGK, Common, Scarface, Ghostface . . . THOSE are GREAT rappers who deserve all the credit in the world. They've put out quality music for over 10 years (some even 20 years) and still managed to stay relevant to this day. Wayne hasn't PROVED anything to assign him any title yet.

And in no way am I a Wayne stan. The dude isn't even in my list of top five favorite rappers. Just thought I'd let you know before you try to use that argument against me.

Please, this nigga ain't even in my top 50 . . .

[Daddy]

how about lloyd banks guys

[V]

Funny, I hate 50 but there is no denying HIM the buzz he creates for ANYTHING that has to do with him.

Like I said, just because an album is hot does not mean it's a classic. Just because an artist is hot at the time does not mean he has ascended the ranks. All of those albums I named? Those are classics, they've stood the test of time. Jay-Z, Nas, OutKast, UGK, Common, Scarface, Ghostface . . . THOSE are GREAT rappers who deserve all the credit in the world. They've put out quality music for over 10 years (some even 20 years) and still managed to stay relevant to this day. Wayne hasn't PROVED anything to assign him any title yet.

But you're ignoring the fact the nigga been rapping since how old? And back in the day he was killing the game with the Cash Money bling/bling era. Not considered one of the best lyricists back then, but he was always relevant to the game. And at only age 25 and producing shit like this, you can't help but notice that he's quickly becoming one of the best and has so much time to surpass and reach the ranks of the Biggies, Pacs, and Jays.

Please, this nigga ain't even in my top 50 . . .

Good for you.

And I hate how niggas treat Biggie like he some lyrical genius. He had some of the wackest fucking lines in the history of rap. Don't get me wrong, the man is top five dead or alive, and a legend, but it goes to show you that every once and a while EVERY artist gets hyped up.

"Sour like a pickle be."

"Short like lepechauns."

"Ball like a player."

"You turn green like cucumber skin."

"Take heart like valentines."

"Dash like Dame."

[Meyer Lansky]

But you're ignoring the fact the nigga been rapping since how old? And back in the day he was killing the game with the Cash Money bling/bling era. Not considered one of the best lyricists back then, but he was always relevant to the game. And at only age 25 and producing shit like this, you can't help but notice that he's quickly becoming one of the best and has so much time to surpass and reach the ranks of the Biggies, Pacs, and Jays.

With all that said, you simply can't judge someone's career based on his potential.

And I hate how niggas treat Biggie like he some lyrical genius. He had some of the wackest fucking lines in the history of rap. Don't get me wrong, the man is top five dead or alive, and a legend, but it goes to show you that every once and a while EVERY artist gets hyped up.

EVERYBODY has their share of stupid lines. The English language can only go but so far.

But anyways, how about we actually discuss this album . . . and how "Dr. Carter" is THAT shit.

[V]

With all that said, you simply can't judge someone's career based on his potential.
EVERYBODY has their share of stupid lines. The English language can only go but so far.

But anyways, how about we actually discuss this album . . . and how "Dr. Carter" is THAT shit.

Yo, the song is crazy. Concept was definitely something fresh and his execution was good.

One of the songs that most people might not like but I do, and it contains a line that you frowned upon is "Phone Home."

I find the concept of him being "a martian" and all, and how he likes to consider himself an alien hot. The hook is catchy too, and Cool and Dre provided a different and fitting beat.

But as of now, my favorite track is "Tie My Hands." Robin Thicke was the highlight of that song.

[Meyer Lansky]

One of the songs that most people might not like but I do, and it contains a line that you frowned upon is "Phone Home."

I find the concept of him being "a martian" and all, and how he likes to consider himself an alien hot. The hook is catchy too, and Cool and Dre provided a different and fitting beat.

Nah, nah I like "Phone Home" too. I used that line because I like it and that shit make me laugh.

This nigga wasted a good beat in "Misunderstood".

And Fab > Juelz > Wayne on "You Ain't Got Nothin'".

[Houdini]

Hey guys how about Flo Rida

[V]

And Fab > Juelz > Wayne on "You Ain't Got Nothin'".

This crazy because me, my brother and my cousin were just talking about that song today. We put that same exact order of who was hottest on that song as you did.

I still think he should have kept "Gossip"  and "I'm Me" for this album in replace of "Got Money" and "You Ain't Got Nothin'."

Hey guys how about Flo Rida

Let him die.

[Houdini]

Let him die.

But what about t pain i like his song ill buy u a drank

[Meyer Lansky]

I still think he should have kept "Gossip"  and "I'm Me" for this album in replace of "Got Money" and "You Ain't Got Nothin'."

Supposedly the retail version of the album is going to include a second disc with:

"I'm Me"
"Gossip"
"Kush"
"Love Me Or Hate Me"
"Talkin' About It"
"Got Money (Remix) (Feat. T-Pain & Pitbull)"
"Lollipop (CHOPS Remix) (Feat. Static)"
"Lollipop (Remix) (Feat. kanYe West & Young Jeezy)"

In that order.