Is being Liberal a bad thing?

[Socks]

In which you personally don't get an abortion.

No I cannot get an abortion.

Don't rally to punish those who get one just because you are against it.

And why punish those that are on their way to being born for your own actions?

No one is forcing people to get abortions.

Too bad they're forcing something into dying.

[Selkie]

In which you personally don't get an abortion.  Don't rally to punish those who get one just because you are against it.  No one is forcing people to get abortions.


Probably not.

no one forced the bitch to get pregnant in the first place.

(aside from rape of course)

[Daddy]

No I cannot get an abortion.

But the girl you impregnate can.

And why punish those that are on their way to being born for your own actions?

Because they're not alive.

Too bad they're forcing something into dying.

One needs to be alive prior to dying.

no one forced the bitch to get pregnant in the first place.

In which she reserves the choice to terminate the pregnancy.

[j o e i n c]

i like guns

[YPrrrr]

In which you personally don't get an abortion.  Don't rally to punish those who get one just because you are against it.  No one is forcing people to get abortions.

The Chinese are

[Socks]

But the girl you impregnate can.

If I impregnate a girl I'll make damn sure she does not.

Because they're not alive.

Oh I disagree, they are alive, it's just morally convenient for some to think otherwise.

One needs to be alive prior to dying.

How convenient, "I'm not gonna let you live, therefore you can't technically die". BS, call it what it is, convenient murder. Maybe in some cases it could be a necessary evil, but an evil no less.

[Daddy]

The Chinese are

No they aren't. They have a one child policy(which I don't know if it is even still around), and there is birth control.  Even if you have a second child I'm almost certain you only get hit with a fine(maybe jail time).  I'm almost certain that they aren't forcing anyone to have an abortion.

Also, China is infamous for their violations of human rights and I was referring to a situation in the USA.  

If I impregnate a girl I'll make damn sure she does not.

That's a keeper.

Oh I disagree, they are alive, it's just morally convenient for some to think otherwise.

how so?

How convenient, "I'm not gonna let you live, therefore you can't technically die". BS, call it what it is, convenient murder. Maybe in some cases it could be a necessary evil, but an evil no less.

Or the fact that a fetus isn't alive.  I dunno.

[YPrrrr]

No they aren't. They have a one child policy(which I don't know if it is even still around), and there is birth control.  Even if you have a second child I'm almost certain you only get hit with a fine(maybe jail time).  I'm almost certain that they aren't forcing anyone to have an abortion.

Also, China is infamous for their violations of human rights and I was referring to a situation in the USA.

You can tell that to my Chinese friends. They were trying to force the mother to abort their second child, so they had to go into hiding while the father came over here to try to gain residency for them.

[Daddy]

You can tell that to my Chinese friends. They were trying to force the mother to abort their second child, so they had to go into hiding while the father came over here to try to gain residency for them.

ok apparently it does oops

still doesn't change the fact that it's not forced here in the us.

[Selkie]

Because they're not alive.

if a carrot is alive, a fetus that is about to be born is certainly alive.

[Selkie]

Also, China is infamous for their violations of human rights and I was referring to a situation in the USA.

Is it China the country that if you are sentenced to death, they shoot you then bill your family for the bullet?

[Daddy]

Is it China the country that if you are sentenced to death, they shoot you then bill your family for the bullet?

No, that's the USA in the form of taxation.

if a carrot is alive, a fetus that is about to be born is certainly alive.

You're comparing a fetus to a vegetable yet defending a pro-life stance?

[Socks]

Or the fact that a fetus isn't alive.  I dunno.

So it's dead as a rock up until that last minute when it is out of the uterus and then magically comes to life in a second? Man, looks like I was wrong.

[Selkie]

You're comparing a fetus to a vegetable yet defending a pro-life stance?

That was a bad analogy.

Basically what I was saying is that the fetus is definitely TECHNICALLY 'alive'. Whether it has rights or not, well that's pretty obvious...

It's alive, so it does.

[Daddy]

So it's dead as a rock up until that last minute when it is out of the uterus and then magically comes to life in a second? Man, looks like I was wrong.

More like until around the beginning of the third trimester when it starts having a functioning brain.

That was a bad analogy.

Basically what I was saying is that the fetus is definitely TECHNICALLY 'alive'. Whether it has rights or not, well that's pretty obvious...

It's alive, so it does.

So is cancer.