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Title: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: YPrrrr on May 30, 2018, 03:43:44 AM
https://youtu.be/9jRtpMKLsts

2 Pokemon Go 4 me

Main rpg still coming in 2019 though so can't be mad about it
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: TooB on May 30, 2018, 09:18:52 AM
maybe not mad about it, but very disappointing.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: C.Mongler on May 30, 2018, 12:13:42 PM
yeah, we'll see. if i can largely opt out of all the 'Go' BS i might still get it, but if i have to participate in Go's shtick to make any progress then, yeah I'll pass til "the real one" is out.

seems goofy as shit at face value though lol but i can understand the market they're trying to tackle here.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: bluaki on July 12, 2018, 09:11:32 PM
They announced more stuff today for the first time since E3. It's nothing major, just small details.

Kanto town map: https://serebii.net/letsgopikachueevee/kanto.jpg
Notably, it looks like they changed absolutely nothing from the world of Red and Blue other than replacing Safari Zone with Go Park. Cinnabar Island hasn't exploded. SS Anne is landlocked because Cycling Road (which you can't even ride a bicycle on anymore) isn't a drawbridge like it was in HGSS. That Machop in Vermilion City still hasn't finished its construction after 22 years. They're making this game's world even less different from the originals than Firered/Leafgreen were which sounds pretty boring. The good thing about Pokémon's remakes until now is that they recreate the old region and story while changing enough to make it still fresh and that they bring in all the newer main series mechanics, but this game is deliberately avoiding even that. Not even GTS made the cut.

Let's Go Pikachu has most of the version exclusive wild Pokémon from Red and Let's Go Eevee has the exclusives from Blue/Green, except Sandshrew (which I'm guessing swapped with Ekans to let both versions have the same number of Alolan forms). Pikachu has Oddish+Growlithe+Sandshrew, Eevee has Bellsprout+Vulpix+Meowth.

* Jessie and James appear, just like they did in Yellow Version.
* You can dress up the player character and your starter Pokémon.
* Eevee now has a gender difference: females have a new tail pattern that looks like a heart.
* They showed the new designs of Brock, Misty, and Oak.
* You can actually battle against legendaries like Zapdos, unlike all the normal non-legendary wild Pokémon.
* The 2019 Pokémon movie will be titled "Mewtwo Strikes Back Evolution"

I didn't post in this thread during E3 but my opinion of this game hasn't changed: I'll still buy it because I'm just that much of a crazy pokémon fan but this the first "main"-ish series pokémon game I'm really not particularly excited for and wouldn't especially recommend to anyone who isn't as obsessed as I am

Quote from: C.Mongler on May 30, 2018, 12:13:42 PM
yeah, we'll see. if i can largely opt out of all the 'Go' BS i might still get it, but if i have to participate in Go's shtick to make any progress then, yeah I'll pass til "the real one" is out.

You can't opt out. The wild encounters are replaced with no battle and just throwing a pokéball with motion controls. You can't even turn off the motion controls and use buttons instead.

The "Go Park" (connecting to and transferring pokémon from Go) is entirely optional, but they haven't announced yet if any Pokémon require transferring from Go. Safari Zone is gone and they haven't said anything about where stuff like Tauros, Dratini, and Chansey will be.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: TooB on July 12, 2018, 09:16:30 PM
Yeah. This game is a hard pass as of now.

Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: bluaki on July 12, 2018, 10:07:23 PM
One more announcement for today: the digital version takes 4.6GB to download.

Here's some details that were easy to miss during E3 because they weren't in the trailer:



These games are basically a Yellow Version remake split into two versions but in 3D and with Go-based waggle wild catching. Unlike Firered/Leafgreen, these games don't even have breeding or some postgame way (like Sevii Islands and trading) to obtain the other non-Kanto Pokémon.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: C.Mongler on July 13, 2018, 08:04:28 AM
Quote from: Big Goop on July 12, 2018, 09:16:30 PM
Yeah. This game is a hard pass as of now.


Yeah same here, I've yet to hear anything that excites me about this game. Again, I see their market for this, it's just not me lol.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: YPrrrr on July 13, 2018, 08:13:18 AM
The only thing appealing to me is the graphical upgrade and how smoothly the pokemon seem to move through the world. Riding larger pokemon is also cool. I hope they keep that feature in the 2019 title
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: bluaki on July 13, 2018, 06:20:03 PM
Quote from: YPargh on July 13, 2018, 08:13:18 AM
The only thing appealing to me is the graphical upgrade and how smoothly the pokemon seem to move through the world. Riding larger pokemon is also cool. I hope they keep that feature in the 2019 title
I actually agree. Dataminers found overworld walking animations for every single pokémon in Sun & Moon so I'm a little surprised they didn't use them for Ultra S&M and instead waited two more years to only use 151 of them, but I expect that probably means we'll see it in other games moving forward too. Gamefreak has been toying around with the following mechanic for a pretty long time between Yellow's Pikachu, Sinnoh's Amity Park, and HGSS so maybe this time it'll finally stick.

Pikachu & Eevee have a pretty modest graphical upgrade considering the jump from 3DS to Switch, but I think it was said somewhere that the gen9 games will take much better advantage of Switch's graphical capabilities. tbh I think Sun/Moon rendered in 1080p with higher-resolution textures would be roughly on par with these games, or maybe even more detailed since Let'sGo is so stylized to deliberately look simple.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: Hiro on July 21, 2018, 02:03:34 AM
The Go shit looks bad but overall if this is their take  on a low-budget casual title I'm really interested to see what they do with the next mainline game.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: bluaki on August 03, 2018, 06:22:21 AM
All the videos seem to confirm that the Pokemon overworld walking animations in this game are indeed exactly the same as the ones in Sun and Moon. You can see them in these YouTube videos:

Walking: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2Sq4bP3-P0
Running: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD7wtgYg4tg

I like these animations because they give a bit more insight into each Pokemon that none of the games have shown before

some notable details:
Charizard, Farfetch'd, and Gengar walk as bipedal but fly when you're running
Pikachu, Raichu, and Sandshrew walk bipedal but run quadruped
Alolan Sandshrew "runs" by spinning on its belly like a top or hockey puck
Nidorina walks as quadruped, despite standing on its hind legs when still or in battle
Jiggypuff and Wigglytuff walk bipedal but "run" by floating like balloons
Venonat "runs" by jumping up its whole height off the ground like a bug
Mankey walks with its arms raised above its head
Growlithe walks with its tongue sticking out
Shellder and Cloyster face backwards to propel themselves forward
Krabby and Kingler walk sideways
Voltorb spins in circles like a top while Electrode rolls forward
Sandslash, Graveler, and Golem "run" by curling into a ball and rolling forward like Electrode does
Staryu and Starmie "walk" bipedal (like how you'd walk if you can't bend your knees) but for running they just float facing upward while spinning like helicopter blades
Some slower pokemon can't keep up with you when you're running so they get warped forward if left offscreen

All 807 Pokemon (including all Megas and other alternate forms) have these animations, but you won't see the other 656 ones in this game nor any of the 12 Kanto megas.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: TooB on August 03, 2018, 07:20:18 AM
I heard from a likely unreliable source that random battles are back in.

True?
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: bluaki on August 03, 2018, 07:34:19 AM
What do you even mean by "random battles"?

Random online battles? No. During the E3 treehouse gameplay they showed enough of the menus to confirm that online battles are with friends only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzh99yoNOXI&t=36m15s (shown at 36:15)
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: TooB on August 03, 2018, 08:40:11 AM
Quote from: bluaki on August 03, 2018, 07:34:19 AMWhat do you even mean by "random battles"?

Random online battles? No. During the E3 treehouse gameplay they showed enough of the menus to confirm that online battles are with friends only: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzh99yoNOXI&t=36m15s (shown at 36:15)

Like, battles against wild pokemon.

I heard they brought them back instead of just catching like Go
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: bluaki on August 03, 2018, 09:23:12 AM
Quote from: Big Goop on August 03, 2018, 08:40:11 AMLike, battles against wild pokemon.

I heard they brought them back instead of just catching like Go
Only for legendaries like Zapdos. You actually send out an attacker when battling Zapdos, but it's not completely clear yet if it's just like the old games or if there's some other changes.

For all the normal Pokmon: Instead of having a chance of a random encounter starting every time you take a step through grass or a cave, you can see wild Pokmon spawn in the overworld grass, they wander around, and an encounter only begins if you run into one. In the normal wild encounter, you just do the Go-style capture stuff and your party gets exp if you catch it.

Trainer battles still work as normal.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: bluaki on September 18, 2018, 09:12:18 AM
The guy who runs Serebii got to play through a demo for a few hours today and confirmed: They completely removed abilities and held items (Mega Stones are now treated as battle items)

This really is trying to be even more like the original games than Firered/Leafgreen were in all the worst ways. It's like they're reverting the gameplay improvements that Gold/Silver and Ruby/Sapphire made. At least the D/P physical/special split is intact.

In the two-player co-op mode, the second player can walk around in the overworld with you but can't actually interact with anything. They can't pick up items, talk to NPCs, or even initiate a wild encounter.

The starter pokemon is way more powerful (with higher stats) than a normal pikachu or eevee, and their special moves are strong too, so the starter probably won't be totally useless as you would have initially expected from the fact that they can't evolve. You can switch the starter out of your battle party anyway to use 6 other things that aren't pikachu or eevee.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: C.Mongler on September 18, 2018, 09:37:58 AM
Every update makes this sound worse and worse lol
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: YPrrrr on September 18, 2018, 10:41:49 AM
See ya in 2019 Pokemon
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: bluaki on September 19, 2018, 07:05:23 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on September 18, 2018, 09:37:58 AMEvery update makes this sound worse and worse lol
It gets better sillydood;

I said before that the battles against Articuno, Zapdos, and Moltres look like normal wild battles you'd expect in any other Pokemon game, but it turns out that's not quite right: when you lower the opponent's HP to 0, the battle switches back over to the Go Capture Mode and you have to use motion controls to try to catch it as usual. On top of that, the legendary battles have a 5 minute time limit.

It's looking like, if you don't play Pokemon Go, there's a decent chunk of content you'll miss out on in these games. It's not 100% confirmed, but I think it looks like the Alolan Forms (like Ice-type Ninetales) need to be transferred in from the phone game. Since there's no breeding (and no GTS), you can't just ask someone online "Hey can you breed an extra Ice-type Vulpix and trade it to me?". This will be the first Pokemon game that I won't even bother trying to 100%. Funny enough, the phone game kinda punishes you for linking up with this game because the transfer removes your stuff from the phone game and it only goes one way.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: bluaki on September 22, 2018, 12:06:53 PM
They said before in an interview that these games would add a new pokemon

and today it was teased by Pokemon Go:
(https://i.imgur.com/hb70gA2.jpg)

it's like the body of a grey ditto with its head chopped off and replaced with a screw nut. In Go, its name just appears as "???" when encountered and after capture it turns into a Ditto or some other random pokemon like chikorita, which notably is something that missingno is also prone to doing
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: Nyerp on September 22, 2018, 12:51:35 PM
creepy
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on September 22, 2018, 02:25:46 PM
this thing looks stupid
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2018, 07:59:58 PM
it's hard to tell but it also has a red tail, which you can see during some of its animations

also:

Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on September 22, 2018, 02:25:46 PMthis thing looks stupid
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: AAAAAAAA on September 23, 2018, 09:09:45 AM
Do you think they're officially adding Missingno?
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: bluaki on November 11, 2018, 03:14:34 AM
The game is releasing this week and this thread is already on the second page lol

A recent announcement confirms Red, Blue, and even Green (the scrapped girl protagonist) all appear in this game. Interestingly, they each only have one starter, matching their manga counterparts: Red has Venusaur, Blue has Charizard, and Green has Blastoise. I'm using their US names here; swap Blue and Green in Japan.

Also the ROM leaked last night and data mining is happening. Basically there's nothing new. There are no post-game locations; nothing like FRLG's Sevii Islands. The only info data mining can give us that we didn't already know is minor mechanics details like shiny chaining, base stats, move learnsets, TMs, etc. One of the gym gatekeepers requires that you own 50 pokemon in the dex.
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: TooB on November 11, 2018, 10:05:32 AM
Does this game even deserve more than 2 pages on boyah?
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: bluaki on November 11, 2018, 12:38:49 PM
Quote from: Big Goop on November 11, 2018, 10:05:32 AMDoes this game even deserve more than 2 pages on boyah?
by "already on the second page" I mean this thread has been inactive for so long I had to go to the second page of the video games board to find it

anyway idk, I'm expecting this thread might hit 3 pages max by the time everyone stops playing it, considering we can organize trades in discord and there's barely any content in this game to talk about
Title: Re: Pokemon Lets Go Pikachu and Lets Go Eevee
Post by: TooB on November 11, 2018, 02:17:00 PM
What I asked still stands in the context I inadvertently gave it