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http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2016/02/25/rumor-pokemon-sun-moon-trademarks-may-hint-at-upcoming-games.aspx


Nothing official yet, but sounds believable to be the next entries

Who thinks these are legit?

i haven't touched a pokémon since gen 2

are X/Y any good?

x/y got me back into pokemon after not even finishing gold/silver, so take that for what you will.

i played a bit of Y but got bored pretty quick. the only gen i've never played was ruby/saphire, and black/white are my faves since gold/silver.

im interested to see what the hubub is for these new ones, but i hope it's not more of the same cuz im kinda bored of it at this point

yeah really hoping they keep progressing the series, black and white did an alright job of that, as did X and Y
but yeah I just came to post this, guess we'll see tomorrow

black and white had a good (for a pokemon game) story, i really hope they MAKE A GOOD NARRATIVE for this one

pokemon square and circle
pokemon big and small
pokemon mom and dad
pokemon coke and pepsi
pokemon salt and pepper

Quote from: ʜɨɍɵ҈҈ on February 25, 2016, 09:41:40 AM
pokemon salt and pepper

(http://dconheels.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Salt-N-Pepa-Howard-Theatre.jpg)

also there's like a 50% chance this is fake; trademarks are real (and from a while ago), logos HAVE YET 2 BE CONFIRMED

Quote from: Rhyme on February 25, 2016, 09:13:34 AM
i haven't touched a pokémon since gen 2

are X/Y any good?

i finished x/y in two days and then the élite four the next day


i've owned aqua sapphire for over a year and have not beaten the first gym

so

I got through both x and alpha sapphire relatively quickly.

Really enjoyed both. Although, I do still have that post game to finish.....

Quote from: David on February 25, 2016, 09:58:35 AM

Quote from: Rhyme on February 25, 2016, 09:13:34 AM
i haven't touched a pokémon since gen 2

are X/Y any good?

i finished x/y in two days and then the élite four the next day


i've owned aqua sapphire for over a year and have not beaten the first gym

so

either you really liked it and couldn't put it down or it was really short sillydood;

If you're interested, I'd say try them.

Quote from: Rhyme on February 25, 2016, 10:03:12 AM

Quote from: David on February 25, 2016, 09:58:35 AM

Quote from: Rhyme on February 25, 2016, 09:13:34 AM
i haven't touched a pokémon since gen 2

are X/Y any good?

i finished x/y in two days and then the élite four the next day


i've owned aqua sapphire for over a year and have not beaten the first gym

so

either you really liked it and couldn't put it down or it was really short sillydood;

i think most pokemon games are short, but yeah i definitely just played it pretty much constantly

yeah i think i beat X the day I got it lol

Tbh the only Pokemon gen I didn't love was Gen 4. Diamond/Pearl/Sapphire. I would love to see Gen 7 soon. I need a new Pokemon fix.

Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on February 25, 2016, 04:17:42 PM
Tbh the only Pokemon gen I didn't love was Gen 4. Diamond/Pearl/Sapphire. I would love to see Gen 7 soon. I need a new Pokemon fix.

(http://i.imgur.com/EWMCSzZ.jpg)

I too, am ready to see a new mainline pokemon

[youtube]mb2GeuhbPOo[/youtube]

sounds like the flintstones lol

that's the joke, snowy

yeah i get it

Quote from: David on February 25, 2016, 04:19:06 PM

Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on February 25, 2016, 04:17:42 PM
Tbh the only Pokemon gen I didn't love was Gen 4. Diamond/Pearl/Sapphire. I would love to see Gen 7 soon. I need a new Pokemon fix.

(http://i.imgur.com/EWMCSzZ.jpg)

are you defending gen 4

granted, gen 4 did introduce the new battle mechanics that massively improved the entire pokemon experience (most notably the new categorization for special attacks vs physical ones). but i didn't really appreciate having to trudge through swamps.

no he's pointing out in his david way that sapphire was gen 3, you meant platinum n_u

ohhh oops lmao

yeah platinum

7/10 too much swamp

The last gen I played was 4 but I haven't had a working DS or any 3DS since that so

i still like to follow the series tho

i'm curious about the new mystery dungeon games :0

do any pokemon games actually have good online modes yet? i remember being stoked about diamond and pearl online and being really damn disappointed

Quote from: antmaster5000 on February 25, 2016, 11:22:28 PM
i'm curious about the new mystery dungeon games :0

I haven't played any of them, but I've heard good things about Pokémon Super Mystery Dungeon, usually with comments saying it's possibly the best in the series.

Some of the other games like Gates of Infinity had a much less favorable reception.

Quote from: antmaster5000 on February 25, 2016, 11:22:28 PM
do any pokemon games actually have good online modes yet? i remember being stoked about diamond and pearl online and being really damn disappointed

In Gen4 games (Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, SoulSilver), online play was available in the form of either GTS or friend codes.

Pokémon Battle Revolution (the Wii game) and Black/White (Gen5) introduced random battles, so you can just connect and battle anyone. Battles have had the typical variety of rulesets available and Single/Double/Triple/Rotation battle options. Various battle facilities and minigames use support online play too.

X/Y (Gen6) introduced the "PSS" (Player Search System), which is visible on the touchscreen for most of the overworld gameplay. When online, you see a list of online friends, acquaintances, and "passersby" (random people) and you have the ability to request battles/trades and send them miscellaneous gameplay boosts like gain more exp or hatch eggs faster.

Gen6 also introduced "Rating Battles", which are special events of a temporary online battle competition of sorts, often with very specialized rulesets. For example, in the next one on March 4, participants can only use the first 149 pokémon. The previous one restricted teams to pokémon that are Red, Green, or White-colored (it was festive-themed).

Pokémon is still, of course, fundamentally not a cooperative game. People always ask for and never get a "Pokémon MMO" with details like seeing other players in the overworld. Thanks to the 3DS's architectural limitations, even keeping your game connected during single-player gameplay is somewhat of a hassle since it never auto-connects in the background.

Random Pokemon battles sounds pretty tight actually

I'm so behind with Pokemon

Announcements:
* Yes, Sun/Moon are real
* Releasing on 3DS near the end of 2016
* Works with Pokémon Bank
* Instead of saying anything about the new games, let's remind people to buy Red/Blue again

Red/Blue/Yellow also work with Pokebank!

Quote from: Snowy on February 26, 2016, 08:34:03 AM
Red/Blue/Yellow also work with Pokebank!

It's a little surprising, but not groundbreaking.

There's really nothing worth transferring over from Gen1.

Notably, they announced that transfers from Gen1 cannot be withdrawn from Gen6 games. You can only withdraw them into Sun/Moon. That really doesn't make much sense to me, considering nothing about Gen6 should be inadequate for storing these and these VC releases are happening so long before Sun/Moon.

Souce: http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-bank/

nothing worth transferring?

um EXCUSE ME?

How about a little thing called MISSINGNO!!!???

hocuspocus;

Quote from: Loto on February 26, 2016, 09:17:16 AM
nothing worth transferring?

um EXCUSE ME?

How about a little thing called MISSINGNO!!!???

hocuspocus;

I guess it's worth trying maybe

but it's almost certain that they'll block impossible pokemon, like:
* pokedex number of 0 or >151
* level > 100

Impossible moves might have a chance of making it through, but I doubt it.

They could even do something like Stadium and convert Missingnos to dittos.

I think this announcement is actually kinda funny, because only a day or two ago, i was talking to kaz about how we haven't had a new main pokemon in a while, let alone news of one.

boom

Quote from: bluaki on February 26, 2016, 09:01:51 AM

Quote from: Snowy on February 26, 2016, 08:34:03 AM
Red/Blue/Yellow also work with Pokebank!

It's a little surprising, but not groundbreaking.

There's really nothing worth transferring over from Gen1.

Notably, they announced that transfers from Gen1 cannot be withdrawn from Gen6 games. You can only withdraw them into Sun/Moon. That really doesn't make much sense to me, considering nothing about Gen6 should be inadequate for storing these and these VC releases are happening so long before Sun/Moon.

Souce: http://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-video-games/pokemon-bank/

You can get Mew in RBY without an event or hack so there's that

you finally get to push the truck? sillydood;

Quote from: Rhyme on February 26, 2016, 10:52:27 AM
you finally get to push the truck? sillydood;

Lol n_n

Just in case anyone is unaware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QGILo0SZyI

i didnt watch the direct, but did they actually confirm moon and sun or whatever are actually main series titles

what if they are the happy home designer of pokemens

I will be buying Yellow on the 3DS VC.

I've never really played a Pokemon game. At least to the end. If I like it, I will continue looking into Pokemon games. That includes Sun and Moon.

Quote from: YPR Classic on February 26, 2016, 10:56:19 AM

Quote from: Rhyme on February 26, 2016, 10:52:27 AM
you finally get to push the truck? sillydood;

Lol n_n

Just in case anyone is unaware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QGILo0SZyI

The Gen1 games have enough exploits that players can, without any cheating device, do absolutely anything they want to the game's memory if they know how.

Want a Fire-type Bulbasaur? You can do that. A Diglett that knows Fly? Go ahead. Want to rewrite the game into Tetris? It takes a while, but it's doable.

Quote from: C.Mongler on February 26, 2016, 11:38:23 AM
i didnt watch the direct, but did they actually confirm moon and sun or whatever are actually main series titles

what if they are the happy home designer of pokemens

Sun and Moon are proper Pokémon games on 3DS in which you can catch Pokémon, trade, and transfer forward your Pokémon from existing games. They introduce new locations and new Pokémon species.

Beyond that, it's vague. Do we have 8 gyms, an Elite Four, a villainous team, a legendary from the boxart? Six Pokémon on your team at once, held items, the same battle system we've always had, three starter Pokémon that are grass/fire/water? Probably, but unconfirmed.

Quote from: bluaki on February 26, 2016, 12:09:14 PM

Quote from: YPR Classic on February 26, 2016, 10:56:19 AM

Quote from: Rhyme on February 26, 2016, 10:52:27 AM
you finally get to push the truck? sillydood;

Lol n_n
Just in case anyone is unaware: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QGILo0SZyI

The Gen1 games have enough exploits that players can, without any cheating device, do absolutely anything they want to the game's memory if they know how.

Want a Fire-type Bulbasaur? You can do that. A Diglett that knows Fly? Go ahead. Want to rewrite the game into Tetris? It takes a while, but it's doable.

Can you link me to examples of those confuseddood;

I mean if accurate then there is definitely an advantage to being able to upload from Gen 1 n_u

Quote from: bluaki on February 26, 2016, 12:09:14 PM
Beyond that, it's vague. Do we have 8 gyms, an Elite Four, a villainous team, a legendary from the boxart? Six Pokémon on your team at once, held items, the same battle system we've always had, three starter Pokémon that are grass/fire/water? Probably, but unconfirmed.

well while we're at it more than four moves per pkmn would be nice 5thgrade;

Come to think of it, considering how much The Pokémon Company is really pushing for gen1 nostalgia this year, I wouldn't put it past them to implement Missingno in Bank/Sun/Moon as an easter egg for people who transfer it over from Gen1.

The biggest reason I'd doubt it is that Missingno is very different between American and Japanese games; Japan doesn't have the memorable backwards-L-shaped appearance and I don't think their glitches are as well-known.

Quote from: YPR Classic on February 26, 2016, 12:45:16 PM
Can you link me to examples of those confuseddood;

I mean if accurate then there is definitely an advantage to being able to upload from Gen 1 n_u

I just made those up. I know they're all possible, but I don't know the exact procedure to get them and don't feel like examining/calculating it out.

Pokémon Bank already has very extensive legitimacy checks for imports from Gen5 games. I imagine they'll do the same for Gen1 imports and block anything with types, levels, moves, dex numbers, etc. that it doesn't like. In particular, with the way the data structure works in newer games, even if they tried to import a Fire-type Bulbasaur its typing data would just get discarded anyway.

aw man i really wanted to decoarte my pikachu's house  saddood;

Quote from: bluaki on February 26, 2016, 12:57:26 PM

Quote from: YPR Classic on February 26, 2016, 12:45:16 PM
Can you link me to examples of those confuseddood;

I mean if accurate then there is definitely an advantage to being able to upload from Gen 1 n_u

I just made those up. I know they're all possible, but I don't know the exact procedure to get them and don't feel like examining/calculating it out.

Pokémon Bank already has very extensive legitimacy checks for imports from Gen5 games. I imagine they'll do the same for Gen1 imports and block anything with types, levels, moves, dex numbers, etc. that it doesn't like. In particular, with the way the data structure works in newer games, even if they tried to import a Fire-type Bulbasaur its typing data would just get discarded anyway.

I don't think you can switch types legitimately and I dunno about moves but there is a bunch of funky stuff yeah. But the Mew is legit, no fakeness or false IDs

Quote from: YPR Classic on February 26, 2016, 01:22:05 PM
I don't think you can switch types legitimately and I dunno about moves but there is a bunch of funky stuff yeah. But the Mew is legit, no fakeness or false IDs

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9mon_data_structure_in_Generation_I

For Pokémon you already own, full RAM control (the most generic exploit there is) can let you manipulate all of these fields. Even though it's seemingly redundant with the data from the table of species data, each creature does have its own type fields that can conflict with what newly-generated/legitimate creatures of that species should have.

Full RAM control can be had with either interrupting a save and rearranging a huge inventory or by obtaining and using a glitch item that offers arbitrary code execution.

Of course, messing with this data directly is very likely to give you results that very obviously don't look like a legitimate Pokémon. Something like that Mew is a wild encounter, so as long as the ID and level are appropriate it looks mostly fine. Because Mew is an event-only Pokémon, though, Bank can easily be designed to verify that the particular Mew you're importing matches the events they're planning in terms of OT and IVs, or it might simply reject all Mews from English games since that's a Japan-only event.

Lol... pokemon s&m...

Quote from: Rhyme on February 26, 2016, 12:45:28 PM

Quote from: bluaki on February 26, 2016, 12:09:14 PM
Beyond that, it's vague. Do we have 8 gyms, an Elite Four, a villainous team, a legendary from the boxart? Six Pokémon on your team at once, held items, the same battle system we've always had, three starter Pokémon that are grass/fire/water? Probably, but unconfirmed.

well while we're at it more than four moves per pkmn would be nice 5thgrade;

idk about this. i mean for just playing through the games it would be cool to have five or six yeah. but competitive play would be all the more complicated if suddenly more moveslots are available.

i guess it would be cool if there was some sort of system set up where, you can have more moves normally, but once you battle someone online you have to narrow down your pokemon's moves to four. but that would also make it take so much longer to set up matches lol

idk. people always complain about the four move rule but i've never really minded it.

and yes i'm aware that the people who want more than four moves are also the people who don't give a shit about competitive play

Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on February 26, 2016, 09:09:17 PM
and yes i'm aware that the people who want more than four moves are also the people who don't give a shit about competitive play

I like competitive play and there are certain Mons that would actually be really good if they could have just one more movelot girl;

i still havent beaten x. or really any pokemon game since the third gen.

Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on February 27, 2016, 05:23:39 PM
i still havent beaten x. or really any pokemon game since the third gen.

x is enjoyable other than being very simplistic.  just don't ever play kaz

I think the game would more complex, in a good way, competitive or otherwise with more move slots.

Yeah you'd have more ways to be op, but you'd also have more ways to work around it I think.

I feel like the only thing they need to keep consistent between games is 6 pokemon per team and 4 moves per pokemon.

I'd welcome the shaking up of just about anything else in the formula. Hell, they even fucked with the evolution formula and it worked out.

Quote from: Classic on February 26, 2016, 11:41:33 AM
I will be buying Yellow on the 3DS VC.

I've never really played a Pokemon game. At least to the end. If I like it, I will continue looking into Pokemon games. That includes Sun and Moon.

For a first Pokemon game I'd recommend leafgreen/firered as they're probably the best in the series and fix all the problems the originals had imo
also fingers crossed that the next remake is green and red again, and not d/p sillydood;

Quote from: bluaki on February 26, 2016, 12:09:14 PM
Sun and Moon are proper Pokémon games on 3DS in which you can catch Pokémon, trade, and transfer forward your Pokémon from existing games. They introduce new locations and new Pokémon species.

Beyond that, it's vague. Do we have 8 gyms, an Elite Four, [glow=red,2,300]a villainous team, a legendary from the boxart[/glow]? Six Pokémon on your team at once, held items, the same battle system we've always had, [glow=red,2,300]three starter Pokémon that are grass/fire/water[/glow]? Probably, but unconfirmed.

i'd be good with these things changing

Quote from: Rhyme on February 26, 2016, 12:45:28 PM
well while we're at it more than four moves per pkmn would be nice 5thgrade;

6 would be nice though I can understand why they'd keep it at 4

Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on February 26, 2016, 09:08:33 PM
idk about this. i mean for just playing through the games it would be cool to have five or six yeah. but competitive play would be all the more complicated if suddenly more moveslots are available.

i guess it would be cool if there was some sort of system set up where, you can have more moves normally, but once you battle someone online you have to narrow down your pokemon's moves to four. but that would also make it take so much longer to set up matches lol

idk. people always complain about the four move rule but i've never really minded it.

how about you can "save" up to 10 or something, but you can only equip 4 at a time? that way you wouldn't have to just reserve a pokemon for HMs or any of that nonsense, have more options, but it keeps the battle system stable.

Quote from: Sir Popsicle the Sesquipedalian on February 27, 2016, 06:35:13 PM
I feel like the only thing they need to keep consistent between games is 6 pokemon per team and 4 moves per pokemon.

I'd welcome the shaking up of just about anything else in the formula. Hell, they even fucked with the evolution formula and it worked out.

yeah really, black and white made a few changes and it worked out great, and for x and y, while they eventually lost my interest, I loved all the changes they made. Even despite finally mixing the game up just a bit, the series still feels a bit stale.

ALSO can we talk about how weird and awful the Pokemon logo is? I know it's classic and brand equity yadda yadda but couldn't they just refine it a hair?

Quote from: ʜɨɍɵ҈҈ on February 27, 2016, 07:45:51 PM

Quote from: Classic on February 26, 2016, 11:41:33 AM
I will be buying Yellow on the 3DS VC.

I've never really played a Pokemon game. At least to the end. If I like it, I will continue looking into Pokemon games. That includes Sun and Moon.

For a first Pokemon game I'd recommend leafgreen/firered as they're probably the best in the series and fix all the problems the originals had imo
also fingers crossed that the next remake is green and red again, and not d/p sillydood;

Quote from: bluaki on February 26, 2016, 12:09:14 PM
Sun and Moon are proper Pokémon games on 3DS in which you can catch Pokémon, trade, and transfer forward your Pokémon from existing games. They introduce new locations and new Pokémon species.

Beyond that, it's vague. Do we have 8 gyms, an Elite Four, [glow=red,2,300]a villainous team, a legendary from the boxart[/glow]? Six Pokémon on your team at once, held items, the same battle system we've always had, [glow=red,2,300]three starter Pokémon that are grass/fire/water[/glow]? Probably, but unconfirmed.

i'd be good with these things changing

Quote from: Rhyme on February 26, 2016, 12:45:28 PM
well while we're at it more than four moves per pkmn would be nice 5thgrade;

6 would be nice though I can understand why they'd keep it at 4

Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on February 26, 2016, 09:08:33 PM
idk about this. i mean for just playing through the games it would be cool to have five or six yeah. but competitive play would be all the more complicated if suddenly more moveslots are available.

i guess it would be cool if there was some sort of system set up where, you can have more moves normally, but once you battle someone online you have to narrow down your pokemon's moves to four. but that would also make it take so much longer to set up matches lol

idk. people always complain about the four move rule but i've never really minded it.

how about you can "save" up to 10 or something, but you can only equip 4 at a time? that way you wouldn't have to just reserve a pokemon for HMs or any of that nonsense, have more options, but it keeps the battle system stable.

Quote from: Sir Popsicle the Sesquipedalian on February 27, 2016, 06:35:13 PM
I feel like the only thing they need to keep consistent between games is 6 pokemon per team and 4 moves per pokemon.

I'd welcome the shaking up of just about anything else in the formula. Hell, they even fucked with the evolution formula and it worked out.

yeah really, black and white made a few changes and it worked out great, and for x and y, while they eventually lost my interest, I loved all the changes they made. Even despite finally mixing the game up just a bit, the series still feels a bit stale.

ALSO can we talk about how weird and awful the Pokemon logo is? I know it's classic and brand equity yadda yadda but couldn't they just refine it a hair?

Honestly, Leafgreen/Firered were my least favorites behind Diamond and Pearl. It was less colorful than Ruby/Sapphire, the sprites were the worst in the series imo, the Seven Islands were dumb, and I feel like they didn't do much to make Kanto feel updated.

Idk I felt like it somehow had more personality in black and white than in color because they kept the map the exact same so they ended up repeating A LOT of trees and bushes which is way more noticeable in color

IMO

Quote from: YPR Classic on February 27, 2016, 03:41:31 PM

Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on February 26, 2016, 09:09:17 PM
and yes i'm aware that the people who want more than four moves are also the people who don't give a shit about competitive play

I like competitive play and there are certain Mons that would actually be really good if they could have just one more movelot girl;

there are also plenty of Uber/OU pokes that would be that much more broken if they had one more moveslot, so i think it'd do just as much harm as good

Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on February 28, 2016, 12:23:57 PM

Quote from: YPR Classic on February 27, 2016, 03:41:31 PM

Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on February 26, 2016, 09:09:17 PM
and yes i'm aware that the people who want more than four moves are also the people who don't give a shit about competitive play

I like competitive play and there are certain Mons that would actually be really good if they could have just one more movelot girl;

there are also plenty of Uber/OU pokes that would be that much more broken if they had one more moveslot, so i think it'd do just as much harm as good

Trueeee it would be much harder to balance. I'm not sure Nintendo really cares about Pokemon balance much though

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