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[Nyerp]

mega man 9 feels like a LOLSOHARD fanmade romhack à la kaizo mario world. the difficulty is cranked up to 11 because OLD GAMES WERE HARD, AMIRITE? key improvements the series made over time (sliding, charge shot) have been removed for the sake of making the experience as frustrating as possible. i'm struggling to find the will to keep playing it because it is just no fun at all. did people like this game when it came out? why?

[Samus Aran]

mega man 9 feels like a LOLSOHARD fanmade romhack à la kaizo mario world. the difficulty is cranked up to 11 because OLD GAMES WERE HARD, AMIRITE? key improvements the series made over time (sliding, charge shot) have been removed for the sake of making the experience as frustrating as possible. i'm struggling to find the will to keep playing it because it is just no fun at all. did people like this game when it came out? why?

its an homage to mega man 2 pretty specifically. people liked it because it's really fucking good, i'll admit that it has cheap difficulty though.

[TooB]

mega man 9 feels like a LOLSOHARD fanmade romhack à la kaizo mario world. the difficulty is cranked up to 11 because OLD GAMES WERE HARD, AMIRITE? key improvements the series made over time (sliding, charge shot) have been removed for the sake of making the experience as frustrating as possible. i'm struggling to find the will to keep playing it because it is just no fun at all. did people like this game when it came out? why?

its an homage to mega man 2 pretty specifically. people liked it because it's really fucking good, i'll admit that it has cheap difficulty though.

I still maintain that MM2 has cheaper difficulty.
It just gets a pass cuz it's been a fan favorite forever

[TooB]

you're just mad at the game nyerp. Give it a bit of rest and try again

[C.Mongler]

mega man 9 feels like a LOLSOHARD fanmade romhack à la kaizo mario world. the difficulty is cranked up to 11 because OLD GAMES WERE HARD, AMIRITE? key improvements the series made over time (sliding, charge shot) have been removed for the sake of making the experience as frustrating as possible. i'm struggling to find the will to keep playing it because it is just no fun at all. did people like this game when it came out? why?

i 100% agree with this take thank u basednyerp

[TooB]

 

[strongbad]

been playing some overwatch

[Nyerp]

okay i've beaten 5 stages now but tornado man's stage is still garbage

[TooB]

thats my favorite stage lol

[Samus Aran]

the only stage i don't really like in that game is jewel man's, because of that one jump off the swinging platform that's a rookie death trap. and even when you know about it, it's still really easy to fuck it up and graze the spikes and die. pretty bullshit tbh.

that's the only thing i don't really like about 9 - it's a big fan of cheap environmental deathtraps. aside from that, it's honestly one of my favorites. killer soundtrack, solid level design (aside from what i mentioned), robot masters that mostly don't suck (i say mostly because jewel man is dumb as hell) with abilities that are thankfully mostly not just retreads of previous games (again mostly because fucking jewel man lmao). i don't know. i can totally understand someone hating the difficulty of 9, but there's a lot more to that game and it's fucking great.

[TooB]

i still believe 1-3 are harder

9, just like nearly any other MM game, shows you its tricks and traps before it springs the actual challenges at you.
I don't find it cheap at all, even the aforementioned pendulum part.

You want an example of difficult and arguably cheap? MM2 Heat Man blind lava jumps, without item #2, and the Wily boss that's just orbs on the wall.

[C.Mongler]

i'm replaying Rondo of Blood (well, Dracula X Chronicles more specifically) as john triggered me about its difficulty and as I remembered the game is a lot more bearable than the SNES Dracula X, since there's basically been zero death pit platforming sections so far, but holy shit level 5 is aggravating me to no end

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there's a ton of flying shit with goofy ass movement and hit boxes throughout the level, but specifically the god damn picture frame at 2:25, which if it hits you is a fucking INSTA KILL is the dumbest shit this game has. it doesn't help that the thing moves so fucking randomly that you can get touched by it even if you're playing it carefully as you possibly can.

also the boss of this level is like the hardest one in the whole game, so if you fuck up and lose too many lives on a GOD DAMN PICTURE you r gonna have a bad time with him

took me like 3 tries to beat this level but i finally did, woof. i could switch to Maria who IMO makes the game a shit ton easier but im a MAN dammit

[Nyerp]

there's a painting in the new 8-bit bloodstained game that does the same thing lmao

the only stage i don't really like in that game is jewel man's, because of that one jump off the swinging platform that's a rookie death trap. and even when you know about it, it's still really easy to fuck it up and graze the spikes and die. pretty bullshit tbh.

this applies to like 3 separate moments in that level so you'll have to specify

tbh the levels are tolerable once you've memorized all the little bullshit traps, but it feels impossible to enjoy them the first like 5 times you try them

there's the grabby guy in galaxy man's stage who drops you over a pit of spikes which will kill you unless you're holding right

there's the flying scissors in hornet man's stage that appear so suddenly that you have to memorize them

there's the fucking things that jump out of the pits in concrete & jewel man's stages that WILL kill you on your first try

there's all the tiny different timing challenges to memorize with the rotating platforms in tornado man's stage, with every failure meaning death

there's the 7000 disappearing blocks to memorize in plug man's stage etc. etc.

either i'm just sick of mega man and everything bothers me now (probably true) or there's an overabundance of stuff like this in the game. you say this game is supposed to be an "homage" to mega man 2, but i'm scanning back through those levels and most of them are relatively pretty simple and free of bullshit. it's like inti creates just played quick man's and heat man's stages and said "let's make THE WHOLE GAME like that."

[TooB]

again, all those examples are obstacles shown to you first so you see what's going on.

bullshit cheap, and just hard are two very different things, and I feel you're mixing the 2
-The pendulums - you platform on like, 3 or 4 of them before the tough jump with spikes on the walls, you should know how the momentum works
-the grabby guy - 1 grabs you and drags you completely free of danger, so the game is telling you, hey, this is something to look out for
-the scissor guys - when they come into screen, they don't immediately go straight for you, you have time to react and dodge, or shoot
- the pit enemies - don't really have an argument for that, it's a very classic MM trap, since the beginning
- the disappearing blocks - I still say Heat Man's was worse, and this is also in every other game

to be clear, I'm not trying to invalidate your criticisms, but I simply wanted to provide my arguments as to why I believe it's not BS.

take it or leave it

[Nyerp]

thanks to the power of buying e-tanks in the shop, i was able to complete mega man 9