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Poll
Question: Which is the correct way to say the current year?
Option 1: Two thousand eighteen votes: 2
Option 2: Twenty eighteen votes: 6
Title: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Hiro on August 18, 2018, 04:22:20 PM
It fucking drives me crazy when people say "two-thousand xx" instead of "twenty xx". The last year it was acceptable to say it that first way was in 2010. Imagine if people said "one thousand nine hundred ninety six" or even "nineteen hundred fifty four"
For some reason it also gives me the thought that people who say it that way are still calling it "the new millennium" too.

It's twenty eighteen god dammit.
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: YPrrrr on August 18, 2018, 05:57:42 PM
Um I say either because both are right and I want options
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 18, 2018, 06:07:13 PM
i feel like i say two thousand eighteen more often than twenty-eighteen, but honestly it's exceedingly rare that i have to pronounce the current year out loud befuddlement

i voted for two thousand eighteen though

it's not quite comparable to "nineteen hundred fifty four" imo because "two thousand eighteen" is fewer syllables and much faster/easier to say

'two thousand (and) [x]' is also a lot more familiar because that's how you'd describe a number of things, not as 'twenty eighteen [things]'
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 18, 2018, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 06:07:13 PM'two thousand (and) [x]' is also a lot more familiar because that's how you'd describe a number of things, not as 'twenty eighteen [things]'
this is the worst argument you've ever put forth
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Nyerp on August 18, 2018, 06:34:12 PM
twunny eighteen
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 18, 2018, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 18, 2018, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 06:07:13 PM'two thousand (and) [x]' is also a lot more familiar because that's how you'd describe a number of things, not as 'twenty eighteen [things]'
this is the worst argument you've ever put forth

How would you pronounce "Today I ate 2018 calories worth of cheese"? befuddlement
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: don't let's on August 18, 2018, 06:47:10 PM
It's probably the 2001-2009 years that brought that back
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 18, 2018, 07:12:59 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 06:45:37 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 18, 2018, 06:32:40 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 06:07:13 PM'two thousand (and) [x]' is also a lot more familiar because that's how you'd describe a number of things, not as 'twenty eighteen [things]'
this is the worst argument you've ever put forth

How would you pronounce "Today I ate 2018 calories worth of cheese"? befuddlement
on what planet would anyone say they were born in the year one-thousand-nine-hundred-ninety-one
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 18, 2018, 07:13:29 PM
i know you're just being tec on this but this is a bad one
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 18, 2018, 07:25:38 PM
wait, what

Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 18, 2018, 07:12:59 PMon what planet would anyone say they were born in the year one-thousand-nine-hundred-ninety-one

Where did I ever so much as suggest that anyone would? befuddlement

hiro's the only one who said anything like that, as an argument against it

Quote from: Hiro on August 18, 2018, 04:22:20 PMImagine if people said "one thousand nine hundred ninety six"

in fact i specifically said that pronouncing the 1900s is harder

Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 06:07:13 PMit's not quite comparable to "nineteen hundred fifty four" imo because "two thousand eighteen" is fewer syllables and much faster/easier to say

let alone saying "one thousand nineteen hundred and..."

my arguments are that 'two thousand [x]' is more familiar because it's still relatively easy to say and because it's how you'd describe a number of things

you (or at least i) also wouldn't casually say "today i ate one thousand nine hundred calories worth of cheese", but "today i ate nineteen hundred calories worth of cheese"

Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 18, 2018, 07:13:29 PMi know you're just being tec on this but this is a bad one

What does this even mean? akudood;
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 18, 2018, 07:34:30 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 07:25:38 PMwait, what

Quoteon what planet would anyone say they were born in the year one-thousand-nine-hundred-ninety-one

Where did I ever so much as suggest that anyone would? (https://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/nefuddlement.png)


Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 06:07:13 PM'two thousand (and) [x]' is also a lot more familiar because that's how you'd describe a number of things, not as 'twenty eighteen [things]'

akudood;

We're not counting the years, we're naming them. We don't say it's been 2018 years, we say the year is 2018.
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: don't let's on August 18, 2018, 07:39:28 PM
The year is two thousand eighteen 
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 18, 2018, 07:42:46 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 18, 2018, 07:34:30 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 07:25:38 PMwait, what

Quoteon what planet would anyone say they were born in the year one-thousand-nine-hundred-ninety-one

Where did I ever so much as suggest that anyone would? (https://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/nefuddlement.png)


Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 06:07:13 PM'two thousand (and) [x]' is also a lot more familiar because that's how you'd describe a number of things, not as 'twenty eighteen [things]'

akudood;

We're not counting the years, we're naming them. We don't say it's been 2018 years, we say the year is 2018.

my point is only that 'two thousand (and) [x]' sounds more familiar because it's what we would say if we were counting

the name "two thousand eighteen" doesn't sound so awkward to me partly because it's already consistent with how we count, but i'm not implying that we actually do count (rather than name) the years, or that anyone should lol
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 18, 2018, 07:59:49 PM
then why did you vote the way you did
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 18, 2018, 08:13:28 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 18, 2018, 07:59:49 PMthen why did you vote the way you did

because

Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 06:07:13 PMi feel like i say two thousand eighteen more often than twenty-eighteen

it's not quite comparable to "nineteen hundred fifty four" imo because "two thousand eighteen" is fewer syllables and much faster/easier to say

and

Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 07:42:46 PMthe name "two thousand eighteen" doesn't sound so awkward to me partly because it's already consistent with how we count, but i'm not implying that we actually do count (rather than name) the years, or that anyone should lol

and as further evidence that i'm not "just being tec":

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=%22twenty%20eighteen%22,%22two%20thousand%20eighteen%22

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22two+thousand+eighteen%22

https://www.google.com/search?ei=rd14W8nwHq7n5gK_jYLYDg&q="twenty+eighteen"

so the name "two thousand eighteen" seems about as well accepted as "twenty eighteen" is, at least acording to google lol

in any case:

Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 06:07:13 PMit's exceedingly rare that i have to pronounce the current year out loud befuddlement
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 18, 2018, 08:15:23 PM
I don't care about Google trends, that's a holdover from the 2000s where nobody knew what to call anything
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 18, 2018, 08:17:47 PM
that particular query is fixed within the past 12 months specifically to filter out that noise lol :|
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 18, 2018, 08:20:18 PM
I'm not saying that data is held over, I'm saying people's habits are. People just started saying "two thousand and ten" without thinking about it and kept doing it. That's why anyone does it.
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 18, 2018, 08:21:56 PM
sure i don't disagree with that lol, but that only lends to my argument that two thousand eighteen is already familiar for a number of reasons
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 18, 2018, 08:26:10 PM
But it's dumb akudood;
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 18, 2018, 08:30:36 PM
but the name is already consistent with the way we count, and it's already customary thanks to more than a decade of precedent

it may be dumb, but once again it is familiar and old habits die hard xiapproves;
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 18, 2018, 08:38:54 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 08:30:36 PMbut the name is already consistent with the way we count, and it's already customary thanks to more than a decade of precedent

it may be dumb, but once again it is familiar and old habits die hard xiapproves;
So we're in agreement. The difference is I hate it
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 18, 2018, 08:44:08 PM
i really don't think it sounds all that strange lol

i'll catch up with you guys and start saying 'twenty - [x]' in 2020, but right now i'm still way back in 2018
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Hiro on August 18, 2018, 11:53:46 PM
Quote from: don't let's on August 18, 2018, 06:47:10 PMIt's probably the 2001-2009 years that brought that back
Oh it definitely is, because saying twenty oh-five is awkward. That's why I said it was fine up until 2010, to give people a year to change.
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: Hiro on August 18, 2018, 11:55:19 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 18, 2018, 08:44:08 PMi really don't think it sounds all that strange lol

i'll catch up with you guys and start saying 'twenty - [x]' in 2020, but right now i'm still way back in 2018
this is a good point though, hopefully 2020 is a good opportunity for everyone to fix this error
Title: Re: "Two-thousand eighteen"
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on August 19, 2018, 04:15:06 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on August 18, 2018, 06:34:12 PMtwunny eighteen