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Title: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: C.Mongler on August 07, 2018, 08:35:38 AM
hurry!!! you only have 2 years left to stop me!
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 07, 2018, 09:07:25 AM
Hurry, fellow liberals! You can also stop Dr*mpfh from winning. Ride the BlUE Wave 2018 and stop BENITO CHEETOLINI ORANGEMAN now.

Voting has been hacked and rigged but if you stop this man from supporting Tinyhands Putinwife we can win this!
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: C.Mongler on August 07, 2018, 09:08:00 AM
thank you @Khadafi america is now saved, i'll be voting for hillary
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 07, 2018, 09:08:43 AM
yasss qweeen

drone strike those foreign kids, slayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: don't let's on August 07, 2018, 09:08:59 AM
Calling it a blue wave is insensitive to victims of tsunamis
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 07, 2018, 09:09:36 AM
Quote from: don't let's on August 07, 2018, 09:08:59 AMCalling it a blue wave is insensitive to victims of tsunamis
Perhaps if they were more educated and didn't live in Tsunami prone areas they wouldn't be victims
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: C.Mongler on August 07, 2018, 09:17:49 AM
we should have a green wave in this country am i right heh blaze it fellas (https://i.imgur.com/laCNJJk.png)
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: ME## on August 07, 2018, 11:01:05 AM
As long as the Democraps run unelectable shitbags Trump will win


Book it

Trump Christie 2020
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Samus Aran on August 07, 2018, 11:06:31 AM
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Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: C.Mongler on August 07, 2018, 11:06:49 AM
Quote from: Samus Aran on August 07, 2018, 11:06:31 AMedit space
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: YPrrrr on August 07, 2018, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 09:07:25 AMHurry, fellow liberals! You can also stop Dr*mpfh from winning. Ride the BlUE Wave 2018 and stop BENITO CHEETOLINI ORANGEMAN now.

Voting has been hacked and rigged but if you stop this man from supporting Tinyhands Putinwife we can win this!
lready tell JMV learned nothing and will vote 3rd party

(although his state doesn't matter tbh)
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Nyerp on August 07, 2018, 11:44:44 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 07, 2018, 11:06:49 AM
Quote from: Samus Aran on August 07, 2018, 11:06:31 AMedit space
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Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Mando Pandango on August 07, 2018, 12:17:24 PM
piss
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 07, 2018, 12:52:47 PM
Quote from: YPargh on August 07, 2018, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 09:07:25 AMHurry, fellow liberals! You can also stop Dr*mpfh from winning. Ride the BlUE Wave 2018 and stop BENITO CHEETOLINI ORANGEMAN now.

Voting has been hacked and rigged but if you stop this man from supporting Tinyhands Putinwife we can win this!
Can already tell JMV learned nothing and will vote 3rd party

(although his state doesn't matter tbh)

Fun fact: voting third party had no bearing on clinton losing and this is just a cop out by neoliberals

Closest 5 States that Trump Won

Wisconsin: 45.65% HRC, 47.22% DJT, 1.04% Stein, (3.58% Johnson)  -  HRC + Stein = 46.69% < 47.22% Trump : NC
Michigan:  47.27% HRC, 47.50% DJT, 1.07% Stein, (3.59% Johnson)   -  HRC + Stein = 48.34% > 47.50% Trump: ÂÃ,±16EV
Pennsylvania: 47.46% HRC, 48.18% DJT, 0.81% Stein, (2.38% Johnson) - HRC + Stein = 48.53% > 48.18% Trump: ÂÃ,±20EV
Arizona: 45.13% HRC, 48.67% DJT, 1.33% Stein, (4.13% Johnson) - HRC + Stein = 46.46% < 48.67% Trump: NC
Florida: 47.82% HRC, 49.02% DJT, 0.68% Stein, (2.20% Johnson) -  HRC + Stein = 48.50% < 49.02% Trump: NC

So if liberals are correct and Jill stein is why hillary lost these states (because 100% of stein voters would vote otherwise, and vote for hillary), then hillary'd have an additional 36 electoral votes, and trump'd have 36 fewer.

Trump's new total: 304-36 = 268 EV
HRC's new total: 227+36 =  263 EV.  Let's even give her that 1 random EV that someone gave to sanders (while not giving trump the 3 that went to colin powell). 264 EV. 

Neither would have 270 so idk how that'd play out but Hillary would still have fewer electoral votes even if Jill Stein never ran.  This also has liberals ignoring the fact that she won several states by a smaller margin than Gary Johnson garnered.  In fact, with this logic, GJ+DJT had more votes than HRC+JS.

Even if Jill Stein didn't exist but all of the other conservatives in the race still ran, Hillary would still have lost the election based on how the electoral college works.

Don't let liberals try to convince you out of voting third party because they run shitty campaigns.
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: C.Mongler on August 07, 2018, 12:59:31 PM
tbf jill stein is still shit, hillary vacuum or not (https://i.imgur.com/laCNJJk.png)
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 07, 2018, 01:02:12 PM
electoralism is shit and you should abolish the state
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: YPrrrr on August 07, 2018, 01:03:29 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 01:02:12 PMelectoralism is shit and you should abolish the state
Okay have fun sitting at your cushy job doing nothing Karl
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: The Hand That Fisted Everyone on August 07, 2018, 01:04:59 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 12:52:47 PM
Quote from: YPargh on August 07, 2018, 11:10:30 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 09:07:25 AMHurry, fellow liberals! You can also stop Dr*mpfh from winning. Ride the BlUE Wave 2018 and stop BENITO CHEETOLINI ORANGEMAN now.

Voting has been hacked and rigged but if you stop this man from supporting Tinyhands Putinwife we can win this!
Can already tell JMV learned nothing and will vote 3rd party

(although his state doesn't matter tbh)

Fun fact: voting third party had no bearing on clinton losing and this is just a cop out by neoliberals

Closest 5 States that Trump Won

Wisconsin: 45.65% HRC, 47.22% DJT, 1.04% Stein, (3.58% Johnson)  -  HRC + Stein = 46.69% < 47.22% Trump : NC
Michigan:  47.27% HRC, 47.50% DJT, 1.07% Stein, (3.59% Johnson)   -  HRC + Stein = 48.34% > 47.50% Trump: ÂÃ,±16EV
Pennsylvania: 47.46% HRC, 48.18% DJT, 0.81% Stein, (2.38% Johnson) - HRC + Stein = 48.53% > 48.18% Trump: ÂÃ,±20EV
Arizona: 45.13% HRC, 48.67% DJT, 1.33% Stein, (4.13% Johnson) - HRC + Stein = 46.46% < 48.67% Trump: NC
Florida: 47.82% HRC, 49.02% DJT, 0.68% Stein, (2.20% Johnson) -  HRC + Stein = 48.50% < 49.02% Trump: NC

So if liberals are correct and Jill stein is why hillary lost these states (because 100% of stein voters would vote otherwise, and vote for hillary), then hillary'd have an additional 36 electoral votes, and trump'd have 36 fewer.

Trump's new total: 304-36 = 268 EV
HRC's new total: 227+36 =  263 EV.  Let's even give her that 1 random EV that someone gave to sanders (while not giving trump the 3 that went to colin powell). 264 EV. 

Neither would have 270 so idk how that'd play out but Hillary would still have fewer electoral votes even if Jill Stein never ran.  This also has liberals ignoring the fact that she won several states by a smaller margin than Gary Johnson garnered.  In fact, with this logic, GJ+DJT had more votes than HRC+JS.

Even if Jill Stein didn't exist but all of the other conservatives in the race still ran, Hillary would still have lost the election based on how the electoral college works.

Don't let liberals try to convince you out of voting third party because they run shitty campaigns.
qft
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 07, 2018, 01:05:45 PM
Quote from: YPargh on August 07, 2018, 01:03:29 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 01:02:12 PMelectoralism is shit and you should abolish the state
Okay have fun sitting at your cushy job doing nothing Karl
I'm actually running a tabletop excerise rn
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 07, 2018, 01:08:05 PM
I should have used the email used in phishing podesta
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: C.Mongler on August 07, 2018, 01:17:39 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 01:02:12 PMelectoralism is shit and you should abolish the state
tru ya got me there
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: don't let's on August 07, 2018, 06:26:12 PM
That moment you realized that jmv defected to China and was turned into a spy  xiapproves;
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 07, 2018, 06:39:41 PM
BLUMPF BTFO
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Samus Aran on August 07, 2018, 07:06:01 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on August 07, 2018, 12:17:24 PMpiss

holy shit

it's so hot in here
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 07, 2018, 07:11:21 PM
Quote from: don't let's on August 07, 2018, 06:26:12 PMThat moment you realized that jmv defected to China and was turned into a spy  xiapproves;
na probably isn't too accepting on Ancoms since they have fake Maoism.

Imagine pretending to be communists by claiming you're the worst and most revisionist tendency

That's China

akudood;
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 07, 2018, 07:12:04 PM
If you ever see a commie writing an essay with multiple points, and using complex language from theory, they're a Maoist
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 07, 2018, 07:12:32 PM
china is arguably the very face of neoliberalism goowan
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: C.Mongler on August 07, 2018, 07:36:33 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 07, 2018, 07:12:32 PMchina is arguably the very face of neoliberalism goowan

no you're thinkin' of my ass
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Thyme on August 07, 2018, 07:39:54 PM
one vote for every boyah member who doesn't post in this thread

that's a lot of votin'
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 07, 2018, 07:53:09 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 07, 2018, 07:12:32 PMchina is arguably the very face of neoliberalism goowan

I actually agree with you.

Aggressive pursuit of GDP growth through state management of the economy (the US largely does this through the Federal Reserve) at the expense of the country's domestic workers, even in cases where foreign countries are the exploiters.

China's economy is the dream of what neoliberals want. Their authoritarian government is something else tho
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 07, 2018, 08:02:06 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 07:53:09 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 07, 2018, 07:12:32 PMchina is arguably the very face of neoliberalism goowan

I actually agree with you.

yeah i wasn't kidding lol, but china's implementation of neoliberal policy is what i would call unclean or impure, which is why neoliberalism-with-chinese-characteristics can be and is at times highly destructive

Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 07:53:09 PMAggressive pursuit of GDP growth through state management of the economy (the US largely does this through the Federal Reserve) at the expense of the country's domestic workers, even in cases where foreign countries are the exploiters.

this is dirty/crony neoliberalism, and it's not what i desire at all myface;

Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 07:53:09 PMChina's economy is the dream of what neoliberals want.

No it isn't. Present-day China and early 20th century laissez-faire America are models of what not to do. >.<
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: The artist formally known on August 07, 2018, 09:32:21 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 07, 2018, 08:02:06 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 07:53:09 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 07, 2018, 07:12:32 PMchina is arguably the very face of neoliberalism goowan

I actually agree with you.

yeah i wasn't kidding lol, but china's implementation of neoliberal policy is what i would call unclean or impure, which is why neoliberalism-with-chinese-characteristics can be and is at times highly destructive

Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 07:53:09 PMAggressive pursuit of GDP growth through state management of the economy (the US largely does this through the Federal Reserve) at the expense of the country's domestic workers, even in cases where foreign countries are the exploiters.

this is dirty/crony neoliberalism, and it's not what i desire at all myface;

Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 07:53:09 PMChina's economy is the dream of what neoliberals want.

No it isn't. Present-day China and early 20th century laissez-faire America are models of what not to do. >.<
i think he means the neoliberals with actual power.
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 07, 2018, 10:50:42 PM
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 07, 2018, 07:36:33 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 07, 2018, 07:12:32 PMchina is arguably the very face of neoliberalism goowan

no you're thinkin' of my ass

it actually might be even more accurate to say that china is arguably the mongler's arse of neoliberalism
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: C.Mongler on August 08, 2018, 05:34:11 AM
wtf did you guys do to my thread jesus
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: YPrrrr on August 08, 2018, 05:55:51 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on August 08, 2018, 05:34:11 AMwtf did you guys do to my thread jesus
You started it
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: C.Mongler on August 08, 2018, 05:58:59 AM
i was just making a little goof and now we're talking about neoliberalism and china wtf
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: YPrrrr on August 08, 2018, 06:03:01 AM
An anaracho-communist and a neoliberal walk into a thread...
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 08, 2018, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 07:53:09 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 07, 2018, 07:12:32 PMchina is arguably the very face of neoliberalism goowan

I actually agree with you.

also thank you for concurring because you've actually lent credence to the argument i'm in the process of making in this thread:

https://boyah.net/forums2/index.php/topic,69922.0.html

girl;

in just about one generation, china rose from the very depths of poverty to become the second largest economy and second most powerful nation in the world, and it got there precisely through adopting neoliberal policy beginning in the deng xiaoping - jiang zemin era (no thanks to criminally incompetent mao of course, as i'm sure you'd also agree goodjob;)

and that's despite china's rather dirty implementation of neoliberalism

you could even argue that a little bit of 'dirtiness' helps to accelerate poverty alleviation in the least developed states in the short term, but in the long run that is both undesirable and unsustainable and ideally you'd get progressive reforms once development hits a certain threshold a la the progressive movements that took place in the usa around the roaring 20s

Quote from: YPargh on August 08, 2018, 06:03:01 AMAn anaracho-communist and a neoliberal walk into a thread...

i lol'd
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 08, 2018, 09:01:52 AM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 08, 2018, 08:33:27 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 07, 2018, 07:53:09 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on August 07, 2018, 07:12:32 PMchina is arguably the very face of neoliberalism goowan

I actually agree with you.

also thank you for concurring because you've actually lent credence to the argument i'm in the process of making in this thread:

https://boyah.net/forums2/index.php/topic,69922.0.html

girl;

in just about one generation, china rose from the very depths of poverty to become the second largest economy and second most powerful nation in the world, and it got there precisely through adopting neoliberal policy beginning in the deng xiaoping - jiang zemin era (no thanks to criminally incompetent mao of course, as i'm sure you'd also agree goodjob;)

and that's despite china's rather dirty implementation of neoliberalism

you could even argue that a little bit of 'dirtiness' helps to accelerate poverty alleviation in the least developed states in the short term, but in the long run that is both undesirable and unsustainable and ideally you'd get progressive reforms once development hits a certain threshold a la the progressive movements that took place in the usa around the roaring 20s



The rise in China's GDP/capita predates the Deng era reforms and the later liberalization of China's economy. The diminishing poverty began with its at least "semi socialist" command economy and modernization/industrialization under Mao.  It's just that they continued afterwards.

i also addressed this in several posts in that thread lmao
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 08, 2018, 09:04:45 AM
oh don't worry i plan to address your replies in that thread as well jackodood;
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Daddy on August 08, 2018, 09:06:36 AM
plz be sure to address my issue with structuring it with "extreme poverty" vs income inequality.

Because keeping people poor, but not so poor that they can't afford goods to keep the capitalists in power isn't a plus
Title: Re: post in this thead or i vote for trump in 2020
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on August 08, 2018, 09:18:31 AM
Quote from: Khadafi on August 08, 2018, 09:06:36 AMBecause keeping people poor, but not so poor that they can't afford goods to keep the capitalists in power isn't a plus

i wholeheartedly agree with this and have never so much as implied that i believe otherwise wariodood;

Quote from: Khadafi on August 08, 2018, 09:06:36 AMplz be sure to address my issue with structuring it with "extreme poverty" vs income inequality.

With pleasure. tomatoes;