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Title: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: strongbad on December 20, 2011, 01:07:50 PM
I love shmups, but I have a lot of trouble finding good ones.

Also, I desperately want some solid cooperative shmups, since they're fun as fuck.

Suggestions?
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Samus Aran on December 20, 2011, 01:35:10 PM
Cooperative shmups? As in cooperative online? No idea.

Which consoles do you have? Most of the best shmups have been on the Genesis and Saturn, but there are some other fantastic ones on other consoles too. My favorite shmup ever is Ikaruga. The easiest way to get that game these days is through XBLA. It's quite cheap. Its not-quite-as-good-but-still-amazing predecessor, Radiant Silvergun, is now also on XBLA.

For the Gradius series, I think an awful lot of them are on Wii's virtual console. Life Force and Gradius III are both classics of this series. Gradius V is on the PS2. There's a collection on the PSP that has Gradius II as well as III (I think), since II was never localized before that.

Lightening Force looks to be fucking amazing, I haven't played it myself, but yeah. That's on the Genesis. Also on the Genesis are the fantastic MUSHA (very expensive though), as well as the various Thunder Force games, and plenty of other decent shmups as well.

The Saturn has tons of shmups that were never localized. Donpachi and Dodonpachi, for example. But it also has greats like Darius Gaiden and Galactic Attack. The latter is quite cheap. But I highly doubt you have a Saturn. Wait, are you just going to be pirating all these anyway? If so then prices don't really matter.

The DS has Nanostray, p. cool.

The PS1 has a few interesting shmups. Einhander for example.

Dreamcast's got Mars Matrix, Giga Wing...some others too.

The R-Type series is good but a little frustrating for my tastes. Super R-Type's on the SNES, as is R-Type III. Not sure about the others in the series.

There's a great site for these simply called 'SHMUPS!" You should look there for more. Either way, shmup fan or not, I think everyone at least needs to experience Ikaruga. It's just amazing.
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Commander Fuckass on December 20, 2011, 02:13:18 PM
Kaz came all over this topic.


Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: AAAAAAAA on December 20, 2011, 02:40:27 PM
ikaruga
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on December 20, 2011, 08:11:44 PM
lightening force is the best singleplayer

r-type 1 and r-type iii are good

dodonpachi and everything by cave is good

jamestown support multiplayer

ikaruga as well

steel empire is a fun yet easy shmup

gaiares is pretty unique and cool

silpheed for ps2 is cool

in regards to gradius, ii, iv, and gaiden are my favorites; they're all on the psp collection

tyrian is a western shmup, and it's just okay. western shmups in general suck so it's pretty good by that measure

thunder force iii is neat

axelay is absolutely gorgeous and probably the best the snes offers

over horizon on the famicom (emulate it) is great

layer section/galactic attack/rayforce is great

most arcade/mame shmups are multiplayer; i'd suggest things like armed police batrider, battle garegga, and batsugun

avoid the 194X series like the plague

the strikers: 194X series is completely different and pretty good, however
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Samus Aran on December 20, 2011, 08:16:42 PM
Quote from: Pancake Persona on December 20, 2011, 08:11:44 PM
axelay is absolutely gorgeous and probably the best the snes offers


i forgot to mention this one. it is indeed gorgeous, it does some very interesting things graphically that you don't really see in other games on the snes. its pseudo-3d styling is more appealing than the more typical mode 7 stuff you'd see on the console.

and yet i don't own it cry;
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: strongbad on December 20, 2011, 08:21:03 PM
i should play axelay
i've heard great things about it

i'll look into those mame ones, that could be fun.

any good console shumps with coop? Besides ikaruga?
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on December 20, 2011, 08:29:56 PM
Quote from: MF Doom on December 20, 2011, 08:21:03 PM
i should play axelay
i've heard great things about it

i'll look into those mame ones, that could be fun.

any good console shumps with coop? Besides ikaruga?
considering i've always played games alone, i don't even know what games support multiplayer

i think gradius v may support it, but i'm not sure. it's hard as hell and i'd imagine having two people would make it infinitely more bearable.

the castle shikigami series has multiplayer, but i wouldn't recommend it. it's not bad, but it's very, very bland. it's also an arcade port, so look for anything from the arcades and it's a sign that there's a 99% chance it'll have multiplayer

also, sigma star saga is a pretty cool gba shmup rpg.
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Geno on December 20, 2011, 10:39:27 PM
Did Lawlz come back just for this thread?
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Commander Fuckass on December 20, 2011, 10:41:30 PM
Quote from: Geno on December 20, 2011, 10:39:27 PM
Did Lawlz come back just for this thread?
no. so shut up
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Geno on December 20, 2011, 10:48:34 PM
Quote from: Kefka on December 20, 2011, 10:41:30 PM
no. so shut up
It was the first post I've seen by him in months lol
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Andria on December 20, 2011, 10:53:26 PM
I will have to check out some of the games mentioned in here
Quote from: Kefka on December 20, 2011, 10:41:30 PM
no. so shut up

Don't be so rude.
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Commander Fuckass on December 20, 2011, 11:12:39 PM
speaking of shumps

I ordered Nano Assault
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on December 21, 2011, 01:49:42 AM
Quote from: Kefka on December 20, 2011, 11:12:39 PM
speaking of shumps

I ordered Nano Assault
i want that, but i need money for food

i'll wait for it to be $10 on amazon
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: strongbad on December 21, 2011, 02:05:49 AM
Quote from: Kefka on December 20, 2011, 10:41:30 PM
no. so shut up

fuck off
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Commander Fuckass on December 21, 2011, 11:38:28 AM
Quote from: MF Doom on December 21, 2011, 02:05:49 AM
fuck off
uh....okay goonish
Quote from: Pancake Persona on December 21, 2011, 01:49:42 AM
i want that, but i need money for food

i'll wait for it to be $10 on amazon
did you buy a 3DS too awdood;
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: me003 on December 23, 2011, 06:40:02 PM
I was just looking at a game called Raiden IV, for the Xbox 360, which struck my curiosity.
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: ikanaide on December 27, 2011, 10:21:45 AM
area88 / u n squadron?  doodhuh;
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Daddy on December 28, 2011, 06:12:18 AM
does beat hazard count

i like it because of the colors. if you are on drugs it is like lol

i should do drugs and play it
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on December 28, 2011, 06:37:03 AM
oh, blazing lazers is a good one

jim v bought it for me
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: strongbad on January 02, 2012, 10:14:01 AM
so i bought ikaruga used on gcn for $20 (good deal? idk) and holy shit it's awesome. pretty fucking hard but awesome.

I've been playing cooperatively with my room mate on normal mode and we can just barely get to the last boss in the second chapter without using three continues between us (the first one being used to add the second person, obviously)

I'm glad that I bought it though, it is an amazing game from what I've played.
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on January 02, 2012, 10:15:59 AM
kingdom hearts I and II
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on January 02, 2012, 10:32:26 AM
Quote from: MF Doom on January 02, 2012, 10:14:01 AM
so i bought ikaruga used on gcn for $20 (good deal? idk) and holy shit it's awesome. pretty fucking hard but awesome.

I've been playing cooperatively with my room mate on normal mode and we can just barely get to the last boss in the second chapter without using three continues between us (the first one being used to add the second person, obviously)

I'm glad that I bought it though, it is an amazing game from what I've played.
you're welcome
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: strongbad on January 02, 2012, 10:57:29 AM
Quote from: <sub>Pancake</sub> <sup>Persona</sup> on January 02, 2012, 10:32:26 AM
you're welcome

This game has been on my to-buy list for years now. I think it formulated from Boyah, but I'm fairly sure that I originally heard about it from Kaz

lol not like it matters
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Samus Aran on January 02, 2012, 11:48:14 AM
Quote from: <sub>Pancake</sub> <sup>Persona</sup> on January 02, 2012, 10:32:26 AM
you're welcome


lol excuse me, i recommended it first
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on January 02, 2012, 01:35:30 PM
Quote from: Kaz on January 02, 2012, 11:48:14 AM
lol excuse me, i recommended it first
you wouldn't have an interest in shmups without me
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Daddy on January 02, 2012, 01:36:45 PM
You guys wouldn't exist without our Lord.
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: PLEASEHELP1991 on January 02, 2012, 01:39:30 PM
Quote from: Khadafi on January 02, 2012, 01:36:45 PM
You guys wouldn't exist without our Lord.
abandoned boyah project 3.0: doodthing shmup
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Samus Aran on January 02, 2012, 01:49:06 PM
Quote from: <sub>Pancake</sub> <sup>Persona</sup> on January 02, 2012, 01:35:30 PM
you wouldn't have an interest in shmups without me


that's true, and i thank you for this
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Daddy on January 02, 2012, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: Felt on January 02, 2012, 01:39:30 PM
abandoned boyah project 3.0: doodthing shmup
SHMUP TCG


it will be aesome
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Samus Aran on January 02, 2012, 02:55:52 PM
i spent 200000 luts on this holographic vic viper!!!

[spoiler]shmup tcg would actually be pretty cool[/spoiler]
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: strongbad on January 02, 2012, 02:56:27 PM
shut up

everyone
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: silvertone on January 02, 2012, 02:57:04 PM
never heard of that one david
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Samus Aran on January 02, 2012, 03:02:42 PM
Quote from: MF Doom on January 02, 2012, 02:56:27 PM
shut up

everyone


what lol

settle down strongbutt
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on January 02, 2012, 03:15:29 PM
Quote from: MF Doom on January 02, 2012, 02:56:27 PM
shut up

everyone
srsly

Random-ass bullshit like this kills any actual discussion. akudood;
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Samus Aran on January 02, 2012, 03:19:07 PM
so does telling people to shut up
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: strongbad on January 02, 2012, 03:33:27 PM
my thread = my rules
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Nyerp on January 02, 2012, 03:43:17 PM
i suggest Pure White Lover Bizarre Jelly 5
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Samus Aran on January 02, 2012, 03:52:23 PM
Quote from: MF Doom on January 02, 2012, 03:33:27 PM
my thread = my rules


lol

seriously though, what mode are you playing on ikaruga? i would suggest simply playing on easy for now.
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: strongbad on January 02, 2012, 08:41:43 PM
Quote from: Kaz on January 02, 2012, 03:52:23 PM
lol

seriously though, what mode are you playing on ikaruga? i would suggest simply playing on easy for now.

Normal. I can see why Normal is much harder than easy but it isn't unbearable. We can get a little into the 3rd chapter now.
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Samus Aran on January 02, 2012, 08:51:00 PM
Quote from: MF Doom on January 02, 2012, 08:41:43 PM
Normal. I can see why Normal is much harder than easy but it isn't unbearable. We can get a little into the 3rd chapter now.


3rd chapter is where things heat up big time, the difficulty shoots up during that level and doesn't let up man

keep at it wrench;
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on January 03, 2012, 08:59:01 AM
Quote from: Kaz on January 02, 2012, 08:51:00 PM
3rd chapter is where things heat up big time, the difficulty shoots up during that level and doesn't let up man

keep at it wrench;
3rd isn't too bad.

Chapter 4 is the only one I can't beat without using a continue.
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Samus Aran on January 03, 2012, 11:33:50 AM
Quote from: <sub>Pancake</sub> <sup>Persona</sup> on January 03, 2012, 08:59:01 AM
3rd isn't too bad.

Chapter 4 is the only one I can't beat without using a continue.


Well, same here. But I still think 3rd requires you to play much, much more carefully than the previous two levels let on.

Actually, I usually mess up enough on the last chapter that I need a continue there as well. :(
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: strongbad on January 09, 2012, 11:38:47 AM
Okay yeah we took your suggestion and started playing on Easy. The third chapter is fucking hard still, but at least now we can make it to the mid-boss (I think?)

Still this game is fun as hell
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Samus Aran on January 09, 2012, 11:45:01 AM
As much as I've played the game, I still end up dying at least once on that miniboss every time, no matter how careful I am. It's a giant pain.
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: strongbad on January 09, 2012, 11:50:11 AM
Quote from: Kaz on January 09, 2012, 11:45:01 AM
As much as I've played the game, I still end up dying at least once on that miniboss every time, no matter how careful I am. It's a giant pain.

lol my friend and i were on our last lives when he came out and we just about died instantly
looking forward to trying again tonight

man this makes me want to play more shmups
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: Commander Fuckass on January 11, 2012, 09:35:07 PM
I really want Nano Assault but I can't find it anywhere near me  akudood;
Title: Re: Suggest me SHMUPS
Post by: ncba93ivyase on January 12, 2012, 12:13:55 PM
Quote from: Kefka on January 11, 2012, 09:35:07 PM
I really want Nano Assault but I can't find it anywhere near me  akudood;
$20 on amazon