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Title: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 06:21:27 PM
Explain why this is wrong:

Nothing is better than a good sandwich.
A bad sandwich is better than nothing.
Therefore, a bad sandwich is better than a good sandwich.
DO IT FOR THE ACTIVITY
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Travis on November 03, 2010, 06:25:47 PM
it's wrong because nothing is better than a good sandwich but a bad sandwich is better than nothing therefore it's wrong
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Nyerp on November 03, 2010, 06:27:05 PM
the conclusion should be "therefore, a bad sandwich is better than a good sandwich"
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 06:29:09 PM
Quote from: Travis on November 03, 2010, 06:25:47 PM
it's wrong because nothing is better than a good sandwich but a bad sandwich is better than nothing therefore it's wrong


Soo... what's the explanation?

Quote from: Nyerp on November 03, 2010, 06:27:05 PM
the conclusion should be "therefore, a bad sandwich is better than a good sandwich"


DERP thanks
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Travis on November 03, 2010, 06:29:51 PM
THAT IS THE EXPLANATION

THINK OF "NOTHING" AS AN OBJECT
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 06:31:39 PM
Quote from: Travis on November 03, 2010, 06:29:51 PM
THAT IS THE EXPLANATION

THINK OF "NOTHING" AS AN OBJECT

k but you said
NOTHING better than GOOD
BAD better than GOOD

all you did was restate what i said
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Travis on November 03, 2010, 06:32:45 PM
STOP CONFUSING ME
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 06:35:24 PM
Quote from: Travis on November 03, 2010, 06:32:45 PM
STOP CONFUSING ME


YOU'RE CONFUSING ME

explain why it's wrong gogogo
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Classic on November 03, 2010, 06:36:29 PM
This puzzle sucks.
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:9bLw21d1w9mQxM:http://www.gamesugar.net/media/images/2010/09/proflayton.jpg&t=1)

Puzzle Solved!
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 06:38:43 PM
K, solve my puzzle now.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Mando Pandango on November 03, 2010, 07:10:05 PM
In each case, the word "nothing" has a different definition. The first sentence means "There is not a single thing that is better than a good sandwich." The second sentence means "Having a bad sandwich is better than not having anything at all."

Porblem sulvd.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 07:16:35 PM
WINNER

LEVEL TWO:

The hand touches the pen.
The pen touches the paper.
The hand touches the paper.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Mando Pandango on November 03, 2010, 07:19:22 PM
Logical fallacy. Allow me to explain.

Say I were to say that there are three colored circles on a piece of paper. The green overlaps the blue. The blue overlaps the red. So the green must overlap the red, right?

[spoiler](http://i.imgur.com/692aM.jpg)[/spoiler]
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Cookie on November 03, 2010, 07:20:20 PM
The hand is the paper
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 07:22:48 PM
Popsicle wins again.

All men are mortal.
Socrates is a mortal.
Socrates is a man.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Hiro on November 03, 2010, 07:23:49 PM
Quote from: TheSequel on November 03, 2010, 07:16:35 PM
WINNER

LEVEL TWO:

The hand touches the pen.
The pen touches the paper.
The hand touches the paper.
uh the hand touches one end of the pen and the other end of the pen touches the paper
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Mando Pandango on November 03, 2010, 07:24:18 PM
Quote from: TheSequel on November 03, 2010, 07:22:48 PM
Popsicle wins again.

All men are mortal.
Socrates is a mortal.
Socrates is a man.
I don't even get what the problem is with this one.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Travis on November 03, 2010, 07:24:36 PM
you can't deduce that socrates is a man just by him being mortal. it says all men are mortal, but it doesn't specify if something else is
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: rdl on November 03, 2010, 07:32:56 PM
a delayed sandwich is good eventually
but a bad sandwich is bad forever
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Nyerp on November 03, 2010, 07:33:35 PM
Quote from: XLR on November 03, 2010, 07:32:56 PM
a delayed sandwich is good eventually
but a bad sandwich is bad forever


i lol'd
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 07:36:31 PM
Quote from: Travis on November 03, 2010, 07:24:36 PM
you can't deduce that socrates is a man just by him being mortal. it says all men are mortal, but it doesn't specify if something else is


yep yep Travis wins

All cats are mammals.
No dogs are cats.
Dogs aren't mammals.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: rdl on November 03, 2010, 07:37:48 PM
answer mine first
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 07:38:36 PM
Quote from: XLR on November 03, 2010, 07:37:48 PM
answer mine first


It has no conclusion. =\
Anyway, it's incorrect to assume that a delayed sammich is good. So it's wrong because the first premise is negative (false).
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Nyerp on November 03, 2010, 07:39:24 PM
Quote from: XLR on November 03, 2010, 07:37:48 PM
answer mine first


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hocuspocus;[/spoiler]
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Mando Pandango on November 03, 2010, 07:40:22 PM
Sequel these are stupid and all have almost the same exact answers.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: rdl on November 03, 2010, 07:40:47 PM
sequel you're a dumb bastard

what fallacy am i using
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 07:43:07 PM
Quote from: XLR on November 03, 2010, 07:40:47 PM
sequel you're a dumb bastard

what fallacy am i using


ad hominem

Quote from: Man of Popsicle on November 03, 2010, 07:40:22 PM
Sequel these are stupid and all have almost the same exact answers.


Make your own then.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Mando Pandango on November 03, 2010, 07:45:09 PM
Quote from: TheSequel on November 03, 2010, 07:43:07 PM
Make your own then.
I don't want to. Because they're stupid.

STUPID.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 07:46:15 PM
Quote from: Man of Popsicle on November 03, 2010, 07:45:09 PM
I don't want to. Because they're stupid.

STUPID.


It's hard to make your own :(
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Cookie on November 03, 2010, 07:47:04 PM
All penises are penises
No penises are vaginas
Therefore vaginas aren't penises
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 07:50:58 PM
Quote from: Cookie on November 03, 2010, 07:47:04 PM
All penises are penises
No penises are vaginas
Therefore vaginas aren't penises


This fuck doesn't have a fallacy.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Hiro on November 03, 2010, 07:59:35 PM
Everything I say is true
Everything I say is false
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Classic on November 03, 2010, 08:00:22 PM
Therefor you must not speak?
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: rdl on November 03, 2010, 08:00:54 PM
This statement is true
The above statement is false
What the fuck
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Bushy on November 03, 2010, 08:01:43 PM
Can God microwave a burrito so hot not even he can eat it?

Then why call him all powerful :o
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Hiro on November 03, 2010, 08:04:28 PM
Quote from: XLR on November 03, 2010, 08:00:54 PM
This statement is true
The above statement is false
What the fuck
The first statement is false, it isn't true.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Nyerp on November 03, 2010, 08:05:26 PM
I have no mouth and I must scream.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: rdl on November 03, 2010, 08:05:31 PM
Quote from: Admin on November 03, 2010, 08:04:28 PM
The first statement is false, it isn't true.
Says who?

Quote from: Nyerp on November 03, 2010, 08:05:26 PM
I have no mouth and I must scream.
You have vocal cords, therefore you can still scream
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 08:07:08 PM
Quote from: Admin on November 03, 2010, 07:59:35 PM
Everything I say is true
Everything I say is false


It's not possible for two opposites to be true all the time.

Quote from: Admin on November 03, 2010, 08:04:28 PM
The first statement is false, it isn't true.


But the first statement is true, then the second contradicts it. You can't tell which is true and which is false.

Quote from: Nyerp on November 03, 2010, 08:05:26 PM
I have no mouth and I must scream.


Are you an inanimate object?
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Hiro on November 03, 2010, 08:13:54 PM
Quote from: TheSequel on November 03, 2010, 08:07:08 PM
It's not possible for two opposites to be true all the time.
Tyler already answered it

Quote from: TheSequel on November 03, 2010, 08:07:08 PM
But the first statement is true, then the second contradicts it. You can't tell which is true and which is false.
The 2nd statement tells me that the first statement was false in saying it is true.
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 08:16:20 PM
Quote from: Admin on November 03, 2010, 08:13:54 PM
The 2nd statement tells me that the first statement was false in saying it is true.


The first statements says that it is true though. So is it true, or is it false like the second says?
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Cookie on November 03, 2010, 08:21:44 PM
Quote from: TheSequel on November 03, 2010, 07:50:58 PM
This fuck doesn't have a fallacy.

So you think. n_n
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 03, 2010, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: Cookie on November 03, 2010, 08:21:44 PM
So you think. n_n


Just because a penis isn't a vagina doesn't mean a vagina can't be a penis. The conclusion is valid, but the logic is wrong.

Am I right? Because following this logic you could say:
All dogs are mammals.
No dogs are cats.
No cats are mammals.

Those ones with valid conclusions are tricky
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ikanaide on November 04, 2010, 09:42:06 AM
No dogs are cats
No cats are dogs
Therefore all dogs are dogs.
hocuspocus;
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: Hiro on November 04, 2010, 12:13:28 PM
Quote from: IKANAIDE on November 04, 2010, 09:42:06 AM
No dogs are cats
No cats are dogs
Therefore all dogs are dogs.
hocuspocus;
wat
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ????? on November 04, 2010, 04:25:57 PM
Quote from: IKANAIDE on November 04, 2010, 09:42:06 AM
No dogs are cats
No cats are dogs
Therefore all dogs are dogs.
hocuspocus;


Wrong because you can have a conclusion from 2 negative premises (2 premises say something is not).
Title: Re: LOGIC FUN
Post by: ikanaide on November 04, 2010, 04:27:16 PM
Quote from: TheSequel on November 04, 2010, 04:25:57 PM
Wrong because you can have a conclusion from 2 negative premises (2 premises say something is not).

I tried  :(