So I've finally got estrogen pill things. It took 5 years of being able to define myself as trans and 3.5 years wrestling with the medical institutions and its gatekept secrets. I'm not sure whether its a supreme privilege, especially that I can afford the prescription and pray to the gods that I can handle the blood tests, or just a human fucking right that has been a long time coming.
My hair follicles will stop converting from vellus hair and be (generally) more soft and blond. Fat redistribution will occur all over, particularly in the midsection and thighs. Hair will get thinner and then regrow, start to grow faster I believe. Even less facial hair than I have. Gonadal atrophy. Softer skin. Breast development. All good things. This isn't making me a woman or anything. It's just a welcome development in my larger gender.
Wanted to let you know Boyah (spesh you, RDX). Trans thread, or, what long term goals have come to fruition lately? hocuspocus;
Congratulations, pq. :3
oh god i'm so happy for you pqqu giggle;
seriously, major congratulations.
I'm contemplating leaving U. Minnesota - Twin Cities for an university elsewhere because the people here are dicks.
Thanks Kaz, Hen giggle;
Felt, there will be dicks elsewhere and perhaps one less boyfriend. Is it bad bullying?
Quote from: Sheets are Swaying on October 28, 2010, 11:57:04 PM
Felt, there will be dicks elsewhere and perhaps fuck less boyfriend. Is it bad bullying?
Not just bullying, it's a crazy big bureaucracy man.
omg are u a girl? wanna cyber
i ordered plenty of books on transsexuals and gender identity because they've really fucked with my head <3
I am so happy for you Pqqu. You are turning into an amazing person. And I thought you were amazing to start with. cjlubdoods;
for me, this thread has the feel of a funeral.
I'm happy for you, love. giggle;
wait how is the ability to change your sex a human right
Quote from: Nyerp on October 29, 2010, 11:49:28 AM
wait how is the ability to change your sex a human right
you mean gender. that is a social convention, and therefore largely arbitrary.
Quote from: Socks on October 29, 2010, 12:03:11 PM
you mean gender. that is a social convention, and therefore largely arbitrary.
no gender is the fuck where you act according to social norms based on your sex
or something
Quote from: Nyerp on October 29, 2010, 12:05:16 PM
no gender is the fuck where you act according to social norms based on your sex
or something
Exactly, a social convention.
Anyway, congrats pqqu
Quote from: Selkie on October 29, 2010, 12:14:54 PM
Exactly, a social convention.
Anyway, congrats pqqu
but socks implied that pqqu was trying to change her gender doodthing;
Quote from: Nyerp on October 29, 2010, 12:15:49 PM
but socks implied that pqqu was trying to change her gender doodthing;
because she is. this will not change her biological sex. i'm not sure anything ever can. please read the original post, or just become more educated in general.
Quote from: Socks on October 29, 2010, 12:22:29 PM
because she is. this will not change her biological sex. i'm not sure anything ever can. please read the original post, or just become more educated in general.
how about you go fuck yourself because i read the first post and it is apparent that she is trying to make her body become more feminine, regardless of the question of it being entirely possible to completely become another sex
i lol'd ^^^
Quote from: Nyerp on October 29, 2010, 12:51:06 PM
how about you go fuck yourself because i read the first post and it is apparent that she is trying to make her body become more feminine, regardless of the question of it being entirely possible to completely become another sex
That's understandable. The whole gender/sex thing can be very confusing.
But I think Socks considers sex to be determined by the 23rd chromosome, and not hormones or bodily appearance.
And now I'm even more jealous of pqqu :(
I really haven't made much progress at all. I've seen a psychologist just once since coming out half a year ago because of my mom not getting around to doing anything.
Also, pqqu, why aren't you ever on AIM? "Last seen: 67 days, 15 hours, and 43 minutes ago"
Congratulation ^_^
I hope everything works out for you.
happydood;
Quote from: Selkie on October 29, 2010, 01:24:07 PM
That's understandable. The whole gender/sex thing can be very confusing.
But I think Socks considers sex to be determined by the 23rd chromosome, and not hormones or bodily appearance.
How else would sex be determined? XXY, XYY: any Y's and you're a guy D:
Quote from: Sheets are Swaying on October 28, 2010, 11:42:17 PM
This isn't making me a woman or anything.
then it doesnt count akudood;
I'm not changing my gender, I'm doing things to my body. I don't care much for biological sex but essentially I am moving on a path which will eventually lead to a process which would "change my sex" in a way that seems to grok with most of society, even though legally that can be done far sooner, and in chromosomal terms will never happen. I am giving myself a chance to inhabit my gender socially and personally.
In a way I''m compromising my body to medications and social desires; I'm not a woman trapped in any body, I'm a person with a gender status that society refuses to recognize them. Anyone who asks me to not physically transition to make a political point or cultural rebellion is to me the same as someone asking me not to physically transition because it's a sin against god's plan or whatever.
[spoiler=Chromosomal bitching]Also in terms of chromosomes the process by which sex is determined is not oh you have chromosomes hence sex. I'm unequipped to fully explain this, but apparently the only thing involved in turning baby ovaries into baby testes is activity in the Foxl2 gene. The relationship to chromosomes is definite yet not as causal or direct as you might think. Avoid the opinions if you like, but excerpts from the paper on that is here: http://www.questioningtransphobia.com/?p=1905 .There are oodles of intersex conditions (at least 25) that challenge the absolute hierarchy of xx/xy determination. Interesting also are the alternate forms of sex determinations in wider biology, like XX/X0, ZW, Haplodiploidy, temperature-dependent sex determination (wat), infection (WAT), parthenogenesis (oh ok). [/spoiler]
Quote from: XLR on October 30, 2010, 06:02:08 PM
then it doesnt count akudood;
^^^^^
Congratulations! powerofone;
Quote from: Sheets are Swaying on October 30, 2010, 08:47:45 PM
Also in terms of chromosomes the process by which sex is determined is not oh you have chromosomes hence sex. I'm unequipped to fully explain this, but apparently the only thing involved in turning baby ovaries into baby testes is activity in the Foxl2 gene. The relationship to chromosomes is definite yet not as causal or direct as you might think. Avoid the opinions if you like, but excerpts from the paper on that is here: http://www.questioningtransphobia.com/?p=1905 .There are oodles of intersex conditions (at least 25) that challenge the absolute hierarchy of xx/xy determination. Interesting also are the alternate forms of sex determinations in wider biology, like XX/X0, ZW, Haplodiploidy, temperature-dependent sex determination (wat), infection (WAT), parthenogenesis (oh ok).
Mutations happen :(