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Poll
Question: ??????
Option 1: Han votes: 14
Option 2: Greedo votes: 10
Title: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 21, 2010, 09:45:54 PM
 O_0
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Hiro on September 21, 2010, 10:34:23 PM
Yeah, Who shot first.
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Mando Pandango on September 22, 2010, 12:14:40 AM
JR
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Hensa on September 22, 2010, 12:15:56 AM
who's on first?
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: burzumfan420 on September 22, 2010, 12:22:28 AM
who shot first the chicken or the egg
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Hiro on September 22, 2010, 12:48:01 AM
THEN WHO WAS SHOT??!!?
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2010, 12:49:44 AM
WHO THE FUCK VOTED GREEDO
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Wrench on September 22, 2010, 04:10:00 AM
what are you talking about

i just voted greedo because it sounds cooler
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2010, 05:19:06 AM
Quote from: Wrench on September 22, 2010, 04:10:00 AM
what are you talking about

i just voted greedo because it sounds cooler


um, [I]HELLO[/I], star wars of course!!!!
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Nyerp on September 22, 2010, 05:51:30 AM
jar-jar binks
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Cookie on September 22, 2010, 06:46:32 AM
Han duh. It was a  kill or be killed situation.
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: YPrrrr on September 22, 2010, 07:08:33 AM
All members voting Greedo will be banned for a week  akudood;
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Thyme on September 22, 2010, 07:12:08 AM
Lando
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: crystalpepsi on September 22, 2010, 08:28:18 AM
 I voted Greedo piss you guys off. spam;
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2010, 09:16:54 AM
Quote from: YPR on September 22, 2010, 07:08:33 AM
All members voting Greedo will be banned for a week  akudood;


seriously akudood;
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Selkie on September 22, 2010, 12:08:16 PM
Greedo shot first but missed, Han shot second and didn't.

This is common knowledge I thought.
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: YPrrrr on September 22, 2010, 12:10:13 PM
Quote from: Selkie on September 22, 2010, 12:08:16 PM
Greedo shot first but missed, Han shot second and didn't.

This is common knowledge I thought.
... Lucas changed it, initially Han shot first, but in the special edition with added effects, Greedo shot first. Which makes no sense, how do you miss at point blank range doodhuh;
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: wawi on September 22, 2010, 12:54:32 PM
THE ONLY PERSON TO FIRE WAS HAN
GTFO WHOEVER SAID GREEDO
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2010, 01:08:57 PM
Quote from: Selkie on September 22, 2010, 12:08:16 PM
Greedo shot first but missed, Han shot second and didn't.

This is common knowledge I thought.


the point of the argument is to illustrate a common problem with Lucas: editing in new content does not always improve a film

in the original release, and the subsequent slightly better quality VHS release (pre-Special Edition), Greedo didn't shoot at all - Han shot Greedo, knowing full well that it was kill or be killed at that point

but Lucas apparently thought that shooting first made Han seem like too much of a "bad guy," so he had his boys do some rather bad digital editing where Greedo shot first and Han somehow moved his head to the side just in time to not get the ends of his hair fried, making Han look like some sort of silly robot man (his head moves, his neck not so much)

it's just one example of how Lucas keeps fucking us over with these "enhancements"...i mean, adding Hayden Christensen into Return of the Jedi? adding Naboo and Jar-Jar into the celebration part in that same film? really? come on. and while it was nice to see Mos Eisley a little more active, some of that was unnecessary and cheesy as well. but what really takes the cake is the lame musical number in Jabba's Palace.
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Nyerp on September 22, 2010, 01:17:22 PM
why are people so obsessive about star wars
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Hiro on September 22, 2010, 01:30:46 PM
I had a dream last night that Greedo overtook Han in this poll  akudood;
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2010, 01:36:15 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on September 22, 2010, 01:17:22 PM
why are people so obsessive about star wars


why not

it's the penultimate story - every genre wrapped into sci-fi, drawing from westerns, fantasy, romance, everything

it's pretty much every story ever told boiled down into one, but at the same time, it's so much more than that

idk i just fucking love star wars, always have
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Nyerp on September 22, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
never seen it, lol n_n
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2010, 01:38:48 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on September 22, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
never seen it, lol n_n


well if you ever bother seeing it, don't watch the prequels first

or at all, necessarily
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Nyerp on September 22, 2010, 01:46:21 PM
Quote from: Lain on September 22, 2010, 01:38:48 PM
well if you ever bother seeing it, don't watch the prequels first

or at all, necessarily


too late n_u
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Cookie on September 22, 2010, 02:12:59 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on September 22, 2010, 01:17:22 PM
why are people so obsessive about star wars


Expanded Universe is what I love.  giggle;
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: bluaki on September 22, 2010, 03:14:41 PM
I just watched the trilogy for my first time like three months ago and, in whatever version I torrented, Greedo doesn't shoot.

But why do people care so much about that detail? It seems insignificant and hardly noticeable to me.
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2010, 03:32:51 PM
Quote from: bluaki on September 22, 2010, 03:14:41 PM
I just watched the trilogy for my first time like three months ago and, in whatever version I torrented, Greedo doesn't shoot.

But why do people care so much about that detail? It seems insignificant and hardly noticeable to me.


well, people who are rabid fans like me tend to exaggerate a detail's importance

still, it's just annoying that Lucas has this "films are never finished, only abandoned" philosophy and takes it so literally to the point where he'll look for anything and everything he can change

the only massive improvement he made was sharpening the picture in general - the special edition looked so crisp and clean compared to past versions that it was like really seeing them over again

but most of the other changes were unncessary
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: C.Mongler on September 22, 2010, 04:10:06 PM
chewbacca shot first
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2010, 04:10:51 PM
Quote from: C Mongler on September 22, 2010, 04:10:06 PM
chewbacca shot first


i can do a pretty good chewbacca impression sometimes, though it usually takes a couple tries to get it right
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Nyerp on September 22, 2010, 04:13:10 PM
Quote from: Lain on September 22, 2010, 04:10:51 PM
i can do a pretty good chewbacca impression sometimes, though it usually takes a couple tries to get it right


was discovering this a high point in your life
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2010, 04:13:47 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on September 22, 2010, 04:13:10 PM
was discovering this a high point in your life


no
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: C.Mongler on September 22, 2010, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: Lain on September 22, 2010, 04:10:51 PM
i can do a pretty good chewbacca impression sometimes, though it usually takes a couple tries to get it right


i can do a better one
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2010, 04:15:28 PM
Quote from: C Mongler on September 22, 2010, 04:14:50 PM
i can do a better one


you should do it in one of your videos
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: YPrrrr on September 22, 2010, 04:59:50 PM
Quote from: bluaki on September 22, 2010, 03:14:41 PM
But why do people care so much about that detail? It seems insignificant and hardly noticeable to me.
Well it's an important part of the characterization of Han Solo... If he shoots first he seems more like an experienced smuggler who's dealt with scum like Greedo before and is resourceful enough to deal with them and keep himself alive. If he shoots second he seems like he's soft... that he would be caught off guard by such a lousy bounty hunter and escape mostly by luck makes him less of a badass
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: ME## on September 22, 2010, 05:01:11 PM
i guess i'm glad i've only seen the first three films on vhs goodjob;
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Mando Pandango on September 22, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BogbtlJs1rI[/youtube]

Don't you guys get it? This can never un-happen.
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Nyerp on September 22, 2010, 05:31:28 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_shot_first

why does this have a wikipedia article
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: ME## on September 22, 2010, 05:34:28 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on September 22, 2010, 05:31:28 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_shot_first

why does this have a wikipedia article


that's just ridiculous goonish
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: rdl on September 22, 2010, 05:38:03 PM
as anti-geek as i am, you really can't deny that the original star wars trilogy was good. it just...was.
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: C.Mongler on September 22, 2010, 05:44:54 PM
Quote from: Ãâ,¬mbørthümbsee on September 22, 2010, 05:34:28 PM
that's just ridiculous goonish


not really its fucking important
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 22, 2010, 06:06:20 PM
Quote from: Man of Popsicle on September 22, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BogbtlJs1rI[/youtube]

Don't you guys get it? This can never un-happen.


ugh

fucking worst addition of all, completely uncalled for
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: burzumfan420 on September 22, 2010, 06:14:05 PM
i dont remmeber ever seein gt hat scene
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Hiro on September 23, 2010, 12:02:46 AM
Quote from: Man of Popsicle on September 22, 2010, 05:17:26 PM
[spoiler][youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BogbtlJs1rI[/youtube][/spoiler]

Don't you guys get it? This can never un-happen.
dear god did they actually put that in  akudood;
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Samus Aran on September 23, 2010, 12:24:54 AM
Quote from: Hïro on September 23, 2010, 12:02:46 AM
dear god did they actually put that in  akudood;


where were you in the 90s akudood;

it's been in return of the jedi since the special edition that came out when i was like 6
Title: Re: WHO SHOT FIRST?
Post by: Hiro on September 23, 2010, 12:32:33 AM
Quote from: Lain on September 23, 2010, 12:24:54 AM
where were you in the 90s akudood;

it's been in return of the jedi since the special edition that came out when i was like 6
i don't remember it goonish
maybe I didn't have that version idk