and I shall tell you why.
I just sat at my computer for, I exaggerate not, 1 hour, 38 minutes, and 48 seconds watching a movie on YouTube called "CRAZY LOVE".
If you're interested in watching it for yourself before me ruining the entire thing, here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZlxSB1BUo0
It's supposed to be sort of an inspirational love story of Burt Pugash and Linda Riss. I didn't think I would watch the whole thing, but after the first few minutes I couldn't stop.
now then...
[spoiler]to give you a brief overview of the (true) story,
Burt (a rich lawyer) meets linda, becomes obsessed
Linda realizes this guy is creepy AND that he's married and his wife refuses to divorce him. Linda tries to get away from Burt.
Burt hires men to beat up Linda on a daily basis. He thinks he'll go running back to him, she doesn't. She goes to police, they don't help.
Linda runs away with a friend to Florida
Linda meets a man, falls in love with him
Man goes to Army. Linda goes back home. Burt is on the persuit again.
Man comes back from army. Linda and man start dating, get engaged.
Burt finds out, attempts to kill the man, but can't bring himself to fire the gun. Instead he hires someone to throw acid on Linda's eyes to blind her.
He succeeds. Hospitalized Linda tells her fiancee to leave her, but he doesn't.
As soon as she's released from the hospital and out of the bright lights, he does.
Burt is arrested.
shit happens, burt finds his way back out of jail by cutting himself and claiming he's insane.
Burt and Linda get married
Burt cheats on Linda
Burt and Linda stay married.
Linda goes as far as to say "He wouldn't hurt a fly."
I cannot express how angry watching this story made me. This man, Burt Pugash, is such a fucking immature asshole. He had tantrums constantly because he wasn't getting his way and Linda didn't want to be with him. yeah, no fucking shit sherlock. HE FUCKING BLINDS HER. OH YEAH, NOW SHE'LL LOVE YOU
oh wait, she actually does end up loving him
WHAT THE FUCK.
HE FUCKING GETS EXACTLY WHAT HE FUCKING WANTS AND SHE'S WEAK AND STUPID ENOUGH TO FUCKING GIVE IT TO HIM.
He doesn't deserve anyone. He deserves to sit in a corner crying for more attention cutting himself and thinking about how fucking badly he messed up his own fucking life.
How in the hell can some people be so fucking screwed up and get exactly what they want out of life by being the worst they can be, when others end up alone and depressed when they basically deserve to get whatever they want.
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All this movie did for me was reinforce my atheism. And piss me the fuck off.
sorry :(
THIS MADE NO SENSE
That sounds absolutely terrible, why is it even on YouTube?
How did you find it?
You watch too much youtube.
I'm disgusted for having spent, I kid you not, 2 minutes in this thread.
Quote from: Panama Pancake on January 10, 2009, 08:45:44 PM
That sounds absolutely terrible, why is it even on YouTube?
How did you find it?
You watch too much youtube.
It's featured.
Quote from: Socks on January 10, 2009, 08:47:24 PM
I'm disgusted for having spent, I kid you not, 2 minutes in this thread.
Don't make fun of my speech.
I actually talk like that. saddood;
Why is Sam such a stereotype of a girl who watches soaps
Quote from: Panama Pancake on January 10, 2009, 08:45:44 PM
That sounds absolutely terrible, why is it even on YouTube?
How did you find it?
They actually started putting some movies on YouTube.
I got pissed at the story as well :(
its because girls are dumb doodthing;
Quote from: Sam on January 10, 2009, 08:42:04 PMAll this movie did for me was reinforce my atheism.
You say that like it's a bad thing. :3
I think becoming an atheist requires the same type of blind commitment joining a religion does.
Being agnostic is the way to go. n_u
Quote from: Dr. Otamus on January 10, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
I think becoming an atheist requires the same type of blind commitment joining a religion does.
Being agnostic is the way to go. n_u
I would respond but I would never think of derailing such a respectable thread.
Back to talking about some horrible soap opera from youtube and how it causes disgust in people. akudood;
Quote from: Slim on January 10, 2009, 10:40:15 PM
I would respond but I would never think of derailing such a respectable thread.
Back to talking about some horrible soap opera from youtube and how it causes disgust in people. akudood;
You're such a funny man. giggle;
Quote from: Dr. Otamus on January 10, 2009, 10:44:00 PM
You're such a funny man. giggle;
You're such a suave man with rugged good-looks and impeccable style. <3
I try not to let fictional events ruin my life n_u
Quote from: YPR on January 10, 2009, 10:57:37 PM
I try not to let fictional events ruin my life n_u
Quote from: Sam on January 10, 2009, 08:42:04 PM
to give you a brief overview of the (true) story
hi ypr n_u
I have to admit it did bother me a little, but if she was stupid enough to marry him after that, why should we care? akudood;
Quote from: Dr. Otamus on January 10, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
I think becoming an atheist requires the same type of blind commitment joining a religion does.
Being agnostic is the way to go. n_u
BEING SELF AWARE AND NOT TALKING TO YOUR CEILING IS STUPID AWESOME. Also, she got what was coming to her.
Life is unfair. Good actions aren't rewarded.
Quote from: Geno on January 10, 2009, 09:43:09 PM
Why is Sam such a stereotype of a girl who watches soaps
It's not a soap. I hate soaps. My mom watches them and takes up all the DVR space.
It's a documentary.
Quote from: Sam on January 10, 2009, 09:00:53 PM
It's featured.
Featured as fucking gay wariodood;
Quote from: Pancake Pandemic on January 10, 2009, 10:35:39 PM
I think becoming an atheist requires the same type of blind commitment joining a religion does.
Being agnostic is the way to go. n_u
how can i commit myself to not being part of any religion
Quote from: Nyerp on January 11, 2009, 05:32:33 PM
how can i commit myself to not being part of any religion
That's not what he's saying.
Quote from: Socks on January 11, 2009, 06:57:53 PM
That's not what he's saying.
To what does it require blind commitment then?
Quote from: Slim on January 11, 2009, 06:59:25 PM
To what does it require blind commitment then?
You cannot absolutely prove that a "God" does not exist, you also cannot absolutely prove that a "God" does indeed exists. All you can say is that there is a high probably that he does not exists given all that we know. As such, to pick one side over the other and stick to it no matter what, is extreme. Being an agnostic myself I don't really care one way or the other, it has no effect on my life.
Quote from: Socks on January 11, 2009, 07:04:38 PMAll you can say is that there is a high probably that he does not exists given all that we know. As such, to pick one side over the other and stick to it no matter what, is extreme.
I don't see how the second sentence follows from the first one. An atheist does not claim to have absolute knowledge that a "god" certainly does not exist; he simply chooses not to believe in one because of, as you said, the high probability that one does not exist given all that we know. He is picking a side, but I see don't how that qualifies as extreme. Presumably, if new evidence were to arise that would make the existence of a "god" seem likely--however unlikely this scenario may be--he would amend his position, not "stick to it no matter what."
Quote from: Slim on January 11, 2009, 07:25:18 PMAn atheist does not claim to have absolute knowledge that a "god" certainly does not exist;
many do
maybe you've never talked to jmv
what's it called if you don't know or care and don't want to pick sides
Quote from: Slim on January 11, 2009, 07:25:18 PM
An atheist does not claim to have absolute knowledge that a "god" certainly does not exist; he simply chooses not to believe in one because of, as you said, the high probability that one does not exist given all that we know.
You might be taking a slight, but important, liberty on defining atheism. A liberty perhaps Hippo did not have in mind when making that post.
Quote from: Nyerp on January 11, 2009, 07:29:59 PM
what's it called if you don't know or care and don't want to pick sides
What Hippo and Socks have been saying and are; agnostic.
Quote from: Pancake Persona on January 11, 2009, 07:26:10 PM
many do
maybe you've never talked to jmv
Well, different people have different ideas of just how low the probability is. Some may think that it's so low that the entire proposition becomes laughable.
We are talking about a nebulous concept of some kind of abstract creator here, by the way. Recognizing that one can never absolutely disprove that concept says nothing about the credibility of the various gods and doctrines of organized religion.
Quote from: Socks on January 11, 2009, 07:31:36 PMYou might be taking a slight, but important, liberty on defining atheism. A liberty perhaps Hippo did not have in mind when making that post.
Maybe so.
However, I think that the definition that he (and you) seem to have in mind relies more on a caricature of atheism than anything else.
Right, an abstract creator with absolutely no impact on day to day events, here or anywhere else in the universe. Most things tend to work just fine without the need for some dude in sandals.
Now, as for creating a false caricature, perhaps, it's a fair point.
Quote from: Nyerp on January 11, 2009, 07:29:59 PM
what's it called if you don't know or care and don't want to pick sides
fencesitter akudood;
Quote from: Socks on January 11, 2009, 07:43:37 PM
Right, an abstract creator with absolutely no impact on day to day events, here or anywhere else in the universe. Most things tend to work just fine without the need for some dude in sandals.
Now, as for creating a false caricature, perhaps, it's a fair point.
Yes, that's why there really isn't much of a practical difference between a deist and an atheist; it's just a minor philosophical disagreement.
Quote from: Slim on January 11, 2009, 07:50:11 PM
Yes, that's why there really isn't much of a practical difference between a deist and an atheist; it's just a minor philosophical disagreement.
Which in the end pail in comparison to the gaping holes of scripture which you can drive a truck through. bassir;
Quote from: Socks on January 11, 2009, 07:56:00 PM
Which in the end pail in comparison to the gaping holes of scripture which you can drive a truck through. bassir;
It's tough to be infallible when you're a man-made creation. bassir;