Thoughts on consentual intercourse with a minor to be posted here.
Perfectly OK if we keep it to ourselves, right?
go for it.
Will do
hold up, how old are you and how old is this other person.
Holding up.
18 and 16.
so not a big deal
Quote from: Boyager on December 27, 2008, 10:37:14 PM
Holding up.
18 and 16.
so not a big deal
it's still a big enough difference for you to be prosecuted in most states and be forced to register as a sex offender
Better hope she doesn't brag about it
Quote from: Boyager on December 27, 2008, 10:43:12 PM
it's still a big enough difference for you to be prosecuted in most states and be forced to register as a sex offender
Better hope she doesn't brag about it
She was the one who said we couldn't tell anyone. So lol yeah
Eh, it's not okay by the law under most circumstances, differing by state obviously, but...for a lot of cases it doesn't really bother me. Like I can see a 16 year old being fully able to give consent to a 18 or 19 year old knowing what he/she is getting himself/herself into.
Besides, just because I had sex with my girlfriend when she was 18 and I was 19 doesn't mean I wouldn't have also done it when she was 17. Just didn't have the chance to.
Can't wait? There are more things to a relationship than sex. :/
Quote from: Boyager on December 28, 2008, 07:24:53 AM
Can't wait? There are more things to a relationship than sex. :/
like blow jobs
I hope she never gets mad at you. O_0
Quote from: Boyager on December 27, 2008, 10:37:14 PM
Holding up.
18 and 16.
so not a big deal
that's nothing.
doo it.
im seventeen and my boyfriend is 22.
but it's not illegal in canada i dont think so whateveer.
Quote from: Boyager on December 28, 2008, 07:29:04 AM
like blow jobs
baha. ooh lord.
Quote from: Boyager on December 28, 2008, 10:39:24 AM
that's nothing.
doo it.
im seventeen and my boyfriend is 22.
but it's not illegal in canada i dont think so whateveer.
baha. ooh lord.
hey bojangels
Quote from: Boyager on December 28, 2008, 10:40:06 AM
hey bojangels
sorry i didnt feel like clickin the be an idiot button. tab is easier.
I hope you get her pregnant.
Quote from: Boyager on December 28, 2008, 10:57:57 AM
I hope you get her pregnant.
lol mean.
make sure she's on birth control bro.
Quote from: Boyager on December 28, 2008, 11:08:02 AM
lol mean.
make sure she's on birth control bro.
I thought you liked abortion. bassir;
Quote from: Boyager on December 28, 2008, 11:09:06 AM
I thought you liked abortion. bassir;
i don't like it..
but if it needs to be done go for it.
Quote from: Boyager on December 28, 2008, 11:09:06 AM
I thought you liked abortion. bassir;
No one supports abortion as the first option against unwanted children. psyduck;
It's not like 'oh if i get knocked up i'll just get an abortion lol so i won't try to prevent it'. It's like "fuck, I got pregnant, time for an abortion"
edit: oops now i revealed my identity. :O
Quote from: Boyager on December 28, 2008, 11:13:02 AM
No one supports abortion as the first option against unwanted children. psdyuck;
It's not like 'oh if i get knocked up i'll just get an abortion lol so i won't try to prevent it'. It's like "fuck, I got pregnant, time for an abortion"
yah that's what i was going to say.. kinda in a simpilar way.
but whatver.
Quote from: Boyager on December 28, 2008, 11:13:02 AM
No one supports abortion as the first option against unwanted children. psyduck;
You don't know everyone as well as you think you do spam;
Quote from: Boyager on December 28, 2008, 11:13:02 AM
No one supports abortion as the first option against unwanted children. psyduck;
It's not like 'oh if i get knocked up i'll just get an abortion lol so i won't try to prevent it'. It's like "fuck, I got pregnant, time for an abortion"
Not true. I know plenty of girls and guys that would jump to abortion in a heartbeat.
Plus, people are stupid... and abortion is a fast and easy fix for some. There are so many couples out there that don't use protection and see abortion as a plan b solution that's just as good as condoms or birth control. 'cause hey, either way they don't have a baby.
In my state, it's legal for a 16 year old to have sex with an 18 year old.
I see no problem with it. Go ahead.
Quote from: Boyager on January 07, 2009, 07:10:45 PM
Not true. I know plenty of girls and guys that would jump to abortion in a heartbeat.
Plus, people are stupid... and abortion is a fast and easy fix for some. There are so many couples out there that don't use protection and see abortion as a plan b solution that's just as good as condoms or birth control. 'cause hey, either way they don't have a baby.
It's retards like them that make it hard on those who
should have the right. madood;
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 01:24:10 AM
It's retards like them that make it hard on those who should have the right. madood;
Nobody has the right to take away anyone's life.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 12:14:44 PM
Nobody has the right to take away anyone's life.
Why?
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 12:33:59 PM
Why?
...What the fuck. Why do you mean 'why'?
If it's not such a big deal then go kill yourself right now.
I mean, come on, who needs life anyway?
o ya remember if u br8 up she can hold that shit over your head and put you in jail (;
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 01:04:14 PM
...What the fuck. Why do you mean 'why'?
If it's not such a big deal then go kill yourself right now.
I mean, come on, who needs life anyway?
Some people believe this.
Is not a hard question. Just tell me why you believe no one should have permission to take a life. If you believe this, you should be able to tell me.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 01:15:05 PM
Some people believe this.
Is not a hard question. Just tell me why you believe no one should have permission to take a life. If you believe this, you should be able to tell me.
Because it sounds pretty fucking obvious you idiot. psyduck;
Why shouldn't someone have a chance at life? Answer me that.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 12:14:44 PM
Nobody has the right to take away anyone's life.
hitler does.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 01:35:06 PM
Because it sounds pretty fucking obvious you idiot. psyduck;
Why shouldn't someone have a chance at life? Answer me that.
If it's so obvious, why can't you put it in words?
As for your question, I'll try to tackle it. Judging by your wording, I'm guessing you're asking me to justify abortion. While it's not quite the same as my question, I suppose I'll try to answer it.
Probably the most obvious is when an unborn fetus compromises the life of the mother. When both lives are in jeopardy, wouldn't it be better to save one life (the mother) then to have them both die? If you say yes, you're giving man permission to kill another living being.
Unfortunately, abortion isn't always used in this manner. For those who use it as birth control, some believe no one has the right to use another body's resources. For example, let's say tomorrow you wake up to discover a person who is hooked up to you. They have a rare kidney disease, so they're sharing your kidneys without your permission for nine months until their kidneys are healed. If you disconnect this person, he dies. Will you live with him for nine months even though he never asked your permission and is using your body? It's a pretty hard question...
Personally, I don't believe abortion used as birth control is ethical... However, I don't believe that humans NEVER have the right to kill another living being. There are circumstances where I believe it's fine. That's what I was asking you.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 02:07:02 PM
If it's so obvious, why can't you put it in words?
As for your question, I'll try to tackle it. Judging by your wording, I'm guessing you're asking me to justify abortion.
That's actually not what I was asking but hey, if you have no life and enough time to write a novel, be my guest. thumbup;
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 02:07:02 PM
Probably the most obvious is when an unborn fetus compromises the life of the mother. When both lives are in jeopardy, wouldn't it be better to save one life (the mother) then to have them both die? If you say yes, you're giving man permission to kill another living being.
...Are you saying a mother wouldn't die for their child? akudood;
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 02:07:02 PM
For example, let's say tomorrow you wake up to discover a person who is hooked up to you.
Because this is legal and would totally happen without my consent and is therefore a legit example. thumbup;
When I go to sleep, I don't take a risk waking up being "hooked up" to some stranger. While if I had sex, there is ALWAYS the risk of becoming pregnant and should ALWAYS be factored into whether or not the simple pleasure is worth it.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 02:07:02 PM
However, I don't believe that humans NEVER have the right to kill another living being.
All I was asking, but thanks for the pointless information, Dr. Phil. ;)
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:20:02 PM
...Are you saying a mother wouldn't die for their child? akudood;
If it meant the child would live. If both will die then why should the mother just give up her life?
QuoteBecause this is legal and would totally happen without my consent and is therefore a legit example. thumbup;
When I go to sleep, I don't take a risk waking up being "hooked up" to some stranger. While if I had sex, there is ALWAYS the risk of becoming pregnant and should ALWAYS be factored into whether or not the simple pleasure is worth it.
What about rape?
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:20:02 PM
That's actually not what I was asking but hey, if you have no life and enough time to write a novel, be my guest. thumbup;
...Are you saying a mother wouldn't die for their child? akudood;
Because this is legal and would totally happen without my consent and is therefore a legit example. thumbup;
When I go to sleep, I don't take a risk waking up being "hooked up" to some stranger. While if I had sex, there is ALWAYS the risk of becoming pregnant and should ALWAYS be factored into whether or not the simple pleasure is worth it.
All I was asking, but thanks for the pointless information, Dr. Phil. ;)
Wow. You're an close minded, ignorant ass.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 12:14:44 PM
Nobody has the right to take away anyone's life.
who says that anyone is?
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:20:02 PM
...Are you saying a mother wouldn't die for their child? akudood;
he's saying that the child would die too doodthing;
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:23:07 PM
If it meant the child would live. If both will die then why should the mother just give up her life?
What about rape?
...I've never even heard of a case where both child and mother died in labor.
Why should the child be punished?
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:27:11 PM
Wow. You're an close minded, ignorant ass.
Hah, I could say the same for you.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:27:55 PM
who says that anyone is?
Abortionists. baddood;
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:20:02 PM
That's actually not what I was asking but hey, if you have no life and enough time to write a novel, be my guest. thumbup;
Oh sorry, please ask the question again and I'll try to answer it.
Also, I definitely did not write a novel. It's more like a very rough sketch of my thoughts. Oh, and it didn't take me that long to write, so it's fine.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:20:02 PM
...Are you saying a mother wouldn't die for their child? akudood;
This is a sticky situation. Yes, I believe a mother would die for her child. However, based on your previous statements, you would have to say the opposite. Remember, a human has no right to take a life, that includes their own. Therefore, a mother has no right to take her own life even if that means saving her child, right? Or are you going to contract that statement?
But that's not what I meant. I'm saying both the child and the baby would die. These cases are extremely rare. Ectopic pregnancies usually result in just the death of the fetus, however, there is a three percent chance that the mother is in risk as well. An abortion is the solution to save her life.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:20:02 PM
Because this is legal and would totally happen without my consent and is therefore a legit example. thumbup;
When I go to sleep, I don't take a risk waking up being "hooked up" to some stranger. While if I had sex, there is ALWAYS the risk of becoming pregnant and should ALWAYS be factored into whether or not the simple pleasure is worth it.
What about rape victims? That's against their will and they did not choose to have sex. Are they not allowed to have abortions?
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:20:02 PM
All I was asking, but thanks for the pointless information, Dr. Phil. ;)
Sorry, I misunderstood your question. Please ask it again clearer and I'll try not to be "pointless."
Why are you so hostile anyways?
It's okay, fetuses cannot feel pain until the 28th week of gestation hocuspocus;
I will report your identity to the authorities if I have to.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:47:47 PM
Why are you so hostile anyways?
...I really don't feel like replying to all that because I know in the end everyone will just have bitterness toward each other (even if this is anonymous). You won't convince me and I won't convince you, so it's really just a waste of time; so let's agree to disagree, shall we? I'll have my views, you can have yours.
Oh, and I believe sacrifice is a completely different subject, by the way. And I highly doubt anyone would agree that it's suicide.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:57:35 PM
...I really don't feel like replying to all that because I know in the end everyone will just have bitterness toward each other (even if this is anonymous). You won't convince me and I won't convince you, so it's really just a waste of time; so let's agree to disagree, shall we? I'll have my views, you can have yours.
Oh, and I believe sacrifice is a completely different subject, by the way. And I highly doubt anyone would agree that it's suicide.
Look, I think you're not completely understanding what I'm doing here...
I don't support abortion, so actually, we agree on THAT subject. All I'm doing is giving you a different perspective on the subject. It fuels your mind, and gives you a better outlook on the world. It's what I do.
However, I do disagree with you on something, and it seems you disagree with yourself now...
You said "Nobody has the right to take away anyone's life." This statement says that no one EVER has the right to end a life. What I wanted to show you was simply that this isn't true. There are certain instances where lives can be taken.. Sacrifice is an example, and you seem to agree. Therefore, your statement isn't true.
I just wanted you to see this.. That's all. :(
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 04:05:20 PM
Look, I think you're not completely understanding what I'm doing here...
I don't support abortion, so actually, we agree on THAT subject. All I'm doing is giving you a different perspective on the subject. It fuels your mind, and gives you a better outlook on the world. It's what I do.
However, I do disagree with you on something, and it seems you disagree with yourself now...
You said "Nobody has the right to take away anyone's life." This statement says that no one EVER has the right to end a life. What I wanted to show you was simply that this isn't true. There are certain instances where lives can be taken.. Sacrifice is an example, and you seem to agree. Therefore, your statement isn't true.
I just wanted you to see this.. That's all. :(
I meant anyone else's life. |:
Forgot an implied word there, sorry.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 04:11:44 PM
I meant anyone else's life. |:
Forgot an implied word there, sorry.
*sigh*
Then you replied...
"...What the fuck. Why do you mean 'why'?
If it's not such a big deal then go kill yourself right now.
I mean, come on, who needs life anyway?"
Insinuated that you meant one's own life as well.
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 04:13:29 PM
*sigh*
Then you replied...
"...What the fuck. Why do you mean 'why'?
If it's not such a big deal then go kill yourself right now.
I mean, come on, who needs life anyway?"
Insinuated that you meant one's own life as well.
Because you had the attitude that anyone should be able to just kill anyone. :(
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 04:20:34 PM
Because you had the attitude that anyone should be able to just kill anyone. :(
:(
Quote from: Boyager on January 08, 2009, 03:30:16 PM
...I've never even heard of a case where both child and mother died in labor.
Why should the child be punished?
It's a very difficult decision and isn't a matter of punishment for no reason. As much as i would want both the mother AND child to live, keeping the mother alive is just the lesser of two evils.