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General => The Arts => Topic started by: Selkie on November 25, 2008, 05:26:15 PM

Title: 808's & Heartbreak
Post by: Selkie on November 25, 2008, 05:26:15 PM
Just got it. It's great. Kanye's best album by far.

It basically just reinforces the fact that depressing art/art created against a depressing backdrop/art inspired by depressing events is always the best art.

Title: Re: 808's & Heartbreak
Post by: Samus Aran on November 25, 2008, 05:29:46 PM
You must lead a depressing life if you think that's an indisputable fact. doodthing;
Title: Re: 808's & Heartbreak
Post by: Selkie on November 25, 2008, 05:45:20 PM
Quote from: Kazmopolitan on November 25, 2008, 05:29:46 PM
You must lead a depressing life if you think that's an indisputable fact. doodthing;


Actually I am probably one of the happier people out of most to be honest. I just truly believe that depressing art is just better.

Also it's really just the simple reality of conflict: We aren't drawn to someone having to decide between good and good result, it's just boring. We are drawn to someone having to decide between bad and less bad result.
Title: Re: 808's & Heartbreak
Post by: Meyer Lansky on November 25, 2008, 08:49:05 PM
Quote from: Selkie224 on November 25, 2008, 05:26:15 PM
Kanye's best album by far.
No, it's his 4th best.
Title: Re: 808's & Heartbreak
Post by: Samus Aran on November 25, 2008, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: Selkie224 on November 25, 2008, 05:45:20 PM
Actually I am probably one of the happier people out of most to be honest. I just truly believe that depressing art is just better.

Also it's really just the simple reality of conflict: We aren't drawn to someone having to decide between good and good result, it's just boring. We are drawn to someone having to decide between bad and less bad result.


I dunno about you, but my ideal "mood" for an album shifts with my own mood. Thus, I'm not so hasty to raise one over the other.

And um...as for that last statement you made, I can't think of any albums I own that apply to that contrast.
Title: Re: 808's & Heartbreak
Post by: Houdini on November 26, 2008, 04:38:52 PM
It sounds more like a blatant cash-in on the Autotune craze. If there's any emotion in there, I'm not hearing it.
Title: Re: 808's & Heartbreak
Post by: me003 on November 30, 2008, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: Houdini on November 26, 2008, 04:38:52 PM
It sounds more like a blatant cash-in on the Autotune craze. If there's any emotion in there, I'm not hearing it.
Are you talking about using a vocoder? I haven't heard the album so I don't know what you're talking about.

But, I have to agree that depressing music is my favorite, and it's not just music, anything that depresses people is what I enjoy.
Movies; Donnie Darko, Requiem 4 a Dream, Butterfly Effect are some of my favorite movies, because they're dark.
Music, I like a lot of dubstep because it's dark, I like that grimey feel I get when I've witnessed something crazy.
I guess just crazy shit is what I enjoy.....video games included.
But at the same time I love uplifting music and calm music and not so much feel good movies, but feel good anime is awesome too.
Title: Re: 808's & Heartbreak
Post by: Houdini on December 01, 2008, 09:20:28 PM
Quote from: Methree on November 30, 2008, 10:56:23 PM
Are you talking about using a vocoder? I haven't heard the album so I don't know what you're talking about.
Autotune and vocoders are two different things. Do a little research.
Title: Re: 808's & Heartbreak
Post by: me003 on December 02, 2008, 10:55:57 AM
Quote from: Houdini on December 01, 2008, 09:20:28 PM
Autotune and vocoders are two different things. Do a little research.
Done.
"Auto-Tune is a proprietary audio processor created by Antares Audio Technologies that uses a phase vocoder to correct pitch in vocal and instrumental performances."
"While Auto-Tune is a specific product, auto-tune is frequently used in the media as a blanket term to describe any audio processing with a similar effect, perhaps because it was the first product allowing pitch correction in real time."
Title: Re: 808's & Heartbreak
Post by: l a c e y on December 02, 2008, 05:04:11 PM
i agree i think it's his best album aswell.
Title: Re: 808's & Heartbreak
Post by: Andrew1911 on December 13, 2008, 10:13:08 AM
sucked