What makes Zelda not an (action-)RPG?

[TooB]

in my specific general definition of an rpg, most jrpgs wouldn't technically count lol

[Kalahari Inkantation]

Well, good thing Dark Souls isn't a JRPG at all.

[TooB]

Well, good thing Dark Souls isn't a JRPG at all.

well, by the same merits, dark souls would count just fine

[FAMY2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_mechanics#Role-playing

Role-playing
Role-playing games often rely on mechanics that determine the effectiveness of in-game actions by how well the player acts out the role of a fictional character. While early role-playing games such as Dungeons & Dragons relied heavily on either group consensus or the judgement of a single player (deemed the Dungeon Master or Game Master) or on randomizers such as dice, later generations of narrativist games use more structured and integrated systems to allow role-playing to influence the creative input and output of the players, so both acting out roles and employing rules take part in shaping the gameplay.

So does this mean according to wikipedia that your choices as Link shapes the outcome of the game? I always thought of Zelda as an rpg.

[YPrrrr]

I dunno Zelda never gives me the sense that I am the character. The character is its own unique entity onto which I have no real imprint. Link is a defined character on a fairly linear path with established history and lore. I wouldn't consider God of War an RPG and the most recent game is probably more RPG-like than BotW

[Nyerp]

zelda is a Souls-lite

[Kalahari Inkantation]

lol

But it's true.

zelda is babby's first soulslike

[Samus Aran]

I dunno Zelda never gives me the sense that I am the character.

to be fair though, lots of traditional RPGs don't either. the idea of main characters designed for the player to project themselves onto is...well, it's antiquated and not actually that common past the 16-bit era

[YPrrrr]

I dunno Zelda never gives me the sense that I am the character.

to be fair though, lots of traditional RPGs don't either. the idea of main characters designed for the player to project themselves onto is...well, it's antiquated and not actually that common past the 16-bit era

I supposeeeee.

It's like sports to me i couldnt give you a definition of what is and what isn't but i know it when i see it 

[Kalahari Inkantation]

What makes Madden not an RPG?

[YPrrrr]

What makes Madden not an RPG?

Honestly the mode where you create a player and go through their career practicing to increase stats and answering media questions to create a reputation for your player makes Madden more of an RPG than Zelda to me

[Kalahari Inkantation]

What makes Madden not an RPG?

Honestly the mode where you create a player and go through their career practicing to increase stats and answering media questions to create a reputation for your player makes Madden more of an RPG than Zelda to me

I agree.

nonetheless, i would still argue that zelda:rpg::precalculus:calculus

[Nyerp]

precalculus isn't calculus though

did you just admit that zelda isn't an rpg

[Kalahari Inkantation]

doesn't precalc often include an intro to derivatives and other core calc concepts near the end of the course though lol (although i guess that might be institution and maybe even instructor-dependent)

it's only calculus in the most superficial sense, but because it can include basic derivatives, it's still calculus

[Nyerp]

i took 2 separate precalc classes (one in high school and one in college) and neither of them ever introduced actual calculus so yeah i guess it might vary by institution or region

damn i just got btfo