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Started by ncba93ivyase, April 03, 2014, 07:41:10 PM

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April 03, 2014, 08:19:38 PM #15 Last Edit: April 03, 2014, 08:22:40 PM by …
Why should they not be enabled by default?

What do you think about when you actually launch the various app stores and they have all those ads for apps and recommendations and stuff?

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ncba93ivyase

Quote from: … on April 03, 2014, 08:19:38 PM
Why should they not be enabled by default?

What do you think about when you actually launch the various app stores and they have all those ads for apps and recommendations and stuff?
the app store itself is a marketing app

the start menu is not

and i don't think we should constantly have ads thrown in our faces 24/7 everywhere we go. there's no reason to get an ad every time you just want to open your calculator or find a file.

Quote from: ncba93ivyase on June 18, 2014, 07:58:34 PMthis isa great post i will use it in my sig

don't let's

April 03, 2014, 08:33:45 PM #18 Last Edit: April 03, 2014, 08:57:40 PM by …
Quote from: ncba93ivyase on April 03, 2014, 08:31:49 PM
Quote from: … on April 03, 2014, 08:19:38 PM
Why should they not be enabled by default?

What do you think about when you actually launch the various app stores and they have all those ads for apps and recommendations and stuff?
the app store itself is a marketing app

the start menu is not

and i don't think we should constantly have ads thrown in our faces 24/7 everywhere we go. there's no reason to get an ad every time you just want to open your calculator or find a file.
Are you able to remove the app store icon from the start menu? Do you think maybe that that's just one of the apps that they have pinned there? And that you can pin whatever apps you want to have to the start menu or pin no apps at all? (Though maybe it could actually be irremovable, I haven't looked into it yet.)

Quotethe app store itself is a marketing app
and surprise surprise, it was the app store icon that those ads were displayed on and they're only displayed if you have the live tile option turned on.

Hiro

fuck this amazon app giving me ads for their daily deals when i have the amazon widget on my home screen

Hiro

Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on April 03, 2014, 07:55:38 PM
Quote from: g r a n t on April 03, 2014, 07:50:43 PM
also how hard is it to update the recycle bin icon, it's been the same since fucking vista
hiroproblems.jpg
yeah we should never update visuals especially when half the os has an updated style while the other half hasn't been updated in 7 years, in fact let's just go back to the blue/green fischer-price buttons that xp had yeah what a good idea fuck aesthetics why even have a gui

ncba93ivyase

the ads should not be visible unless you explicitly open the app store

Quote from: g r a n t on April 03, 2014, 09:18:02 PM
fuck this amazon app giving me ads for their daily deals when i have the amazon widget on my home screen
you chose to install the amazon app bullshit

it's not click to disable

imagine if every single thing you installed was "uncheck this box to NOT install xyz toolbar. are you sure you don't not want to not choose not to install the xyz toolbar?"

also

[spoiler]10:38:08 PM allen wolfgang: so they are putting adverts
10:38:11 PM allen wolfgang: on my god damn start button
10:38:14 PM lawlzos: yeah
10:38:16 PM allen wolfgang: what was wrong with this house button whatever
10:38:16 PM allen wolfgang: it was
10:38:18 PM allen wolfgang: WHy
10:38:20 PM lawlzos: idk
10:38:24 PM allen wolfgang: yeah but
10:38:25 PM lawlzos: $5 says hiro would defend this[/spoiler]

Quote from: ncba93ivyase on June 18, 2014, 07:58:34 PMthis isa great post i will use it in my sig

ncba93ivyase

Quote from: g r a n t on April 03, 2014, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on April 03, 2014, 07:55:38 PM
Quote from: g r a n t on April 03, 2014, 07:50:43 PM
also how hard is it to update the recycle bin icon, it's been the same since fucking vista
hiroproblems.jpg
yeah we should never update visuals especially when half the os has an updated style while the other half hasn't been updated in 7 years, in fact let's just go back to the blue/green fischer-price buttons that xp had yeah what a good idea fuck aesthetics why even have a gui
hiro, not all changes are good changes

windows still doesn't have spaces goddamn

Quote from: ncba93ivyase on June 18, 2014, 07:58:34 PMthis isa great post i will use it in my sig

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so im guessing staying w/ windows 7 is the best choice still?
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Hiro

Quote from: ncba93ivyase on April 03, 2014, 09:20:17 PM
you chose to install the amazon app bullshit

it's not click to disable

imagine if every single thing you installed was "uncheck this box to NOT install xyz toolbar. are you sure you don't not want to not choose not to install the xyz toolbar?"

also

[spoiler]10:38:08 PM allen wolfgang: so they are putting adverts
10:38:11 PM allen wolfgang: on my god damn start button
10:38:14 PM lawlzos: yeah
10:38:16 PM allen wolfgang: what was wrong with this house button whatever
10:38:16 PM allen wolfgang: it was
10:38:18 PM allen wolfgang: WHy
10:38:20 PM lawlzos: idk
10:38:24 PM allen wolfgang: yeah but
10:38:25 PM lawlzos: $5 says hiro would defend this[/spoiler]
it's not an ad
it's a tile that is completely optional and not just through a check box, it's optional like having any other application pinned to your start menu is optional.

Quote from: ncba93ivyase on April 03, 2014, 09:20:56 PM
hiro, not all changes are good changes

windows still doesn't have spaces goddamn
and you think aero's style is better than metro?

ncba93ivyase

Quote from: g r a n t on April 03, 2014, 09:45:31 PM
Quote from: ncba93ivyase on April 03, 2014, 09:20:17 PM
you chose to install the amazon app bullshit

it's not click to disable

imagine if every single thing you installed was "uncheck this box to NOT install xyz toolbar. are you sure you don't not want to not choose not to install the xyz toolbar?"

also

[spoiler]10:38:08 PM allen wolfgang: so they are putting adverts
10:38:11 PM allen wolfgang: on my god damn start button
10:38:14 PM lawlzos: yeah
10:38:16 PM allen wolfgang: what was wrong with this house button whatever
10:38:16 PM allen wolfgang: it was
10:38:18 PM allen wolfgang: WHy
10:38:20 PM lawlzos: idk
10:38:24 PM allen wolfgang: yeah but
10:38:25 PM lawlzos: $5 says hiro would defend this[/spoiler]
it's not an ad
it's a tile that is completely optional and not just through a check box, it's optional like having any other application pinned to your start menu is optional.

Quote from: ncba93ivyase on April 03, 2014, 09:20:56 PM
hiro, not all changes are good changes

windows still doesn't have spaces goddamn
and you think aero's style is better than metro?
it is trying to sell you something

that is precisely what ads are

and yes. most people hate windows 8 and there are many good reasons why its reception has failed among critics and consumers. the fact ms said that the removal of the start menu was a great leap forward and then backpedaled completely and put it back in shows windows 8 is a huge mistake.

Quote from: ncba93ivyase on June 18, 2014, 07:58:34 PMthis isa great post i will use it in my sig

Hiro

Quote from: ncba93ivyase on April 03, 2014, 09:48:48 PM
and yes. most people hate windows 8 and there are many good reasons why its reception has failed among critics and consumers. the fact ms said that the removal of the start menu was a great leap forward and then backpedaled completely and put it back in shows windows 8 is a huge mistake.
it shows that ms is totally spineless and will bend to any and all irrational bitching from idiots who hate change
yes windows 8 is a failure in that it doesn't work exactly the same as a 20-year old gui that everyone's used to and expects, which cost companies money in training old idiots that probably shouldn't operate a computer anyway, and pisses off people that also get pissed off when facebook updates its layout

Snowy

Quote from: g r a n t on April 03, 2014, 09:19:58 PM
Quote from: Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo on April 03, 2014, 07:55:38 PM
Quote from: g r a n t on April 03, 2014, 07:50:43 PM
also how hard is it to update the recycle bin icon, it's been the same since fucking vista
hiroproblems.jpg
yeah we should never update visuals especially when half the os has an updated style while the other half hasn't been updated in 7 years, in fact let's just go back to the blue/green fischer-price buttons that xp had yeah what a good idea fuck aesthetics why even have a gui

ncba93ivyase

Quote from: g r a n t on April 03, 2014, 09:54:59 PM
Quote from: ncba93ivyase on April 03, 2014, 09:48:48 PM
and yes. most people hate windows 8 and there are many good reasons why its reception has failed among critics and consumers. the fact ms said that the removal of the start menu was a great leap forward and then backpedaled completely and put it back in shows windows 8 is a huge mistake.
it shows that ms is totally spineless and will bend to any and all irrational bitching from idiots who hate change
yes windows 8 is a failure in that it doesn't work exactly the same as a 20-year old gui that everyone's used to and expects, which cost companies money in training old idiots that probably shouldn't operate a computer anyway, and pisses off people that also get pissed off when facebook updates its layout
hiro

microsoft was losing money because of their decision

the only irrational decision was to give up their marketshare to apple and free OSes akudood;

os x's marketshare grows with every iteration because they build upon their os in good ways and cut away the shit. microsoft cut away the defining features of windows and tried selling a mobile OS as a desktop OS. and they still haven't included features that competing oses have had since 2003 ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mission_Control_(OS_X) )

akudood;

Quote from: ncba93ivyase on June 18, 2014, 07:58:34 PMthis isa great post i will use it in my sig

Hiro

but really by "metro" i just meant the visual style, not the whole touchscreen interface or anything
i just find it bizarre that the entire desktop side has a totally different style

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