Prepare your asses for a longish rant up them.

[kougraducky]

Firstly, yes this is copy-pasta'd from my tumblr. Sorry if you hafta read it twice. I just thought boyah might appreciate being part of my internal struggle.
Why is it that there are terms for people who are transgendered to one or the other gender…but not one for those of us who feel we have both genders?

Let me explain as most of my followers will not understand this about me. I’m a pansexual person…and that’s honestly how I see myself. Yes, I have a female body. Am I particularly tied to it? Only because it gets me more ass this way. Also, tits are fun and bouncy. But, I can honestly say that I’d be happy as a man, too. Often times, I feel like a really misogynistic male inside of a female body. And that’s when I don’t know specifically how to explain my particular branch of gender-queerness.

It gets even more complicated when we get into the whole gender-bending aspects of my dress. Most of the time, I dress in what ever is comfortable and yet also forwardly fashion minded. This can be either a pretty dress with frills and bows, or it can be a pair of jeans slouching slightly so you can see my boxers and a button-down shirt with a tie. Yes, I do bind as well (not that there really is much TO bind, but I digress). People get confused with the way I dress, and they often times tell me to keep to one side or the other. I could do this…but I don’t wanna make the choice. It just seems like I should be able to appreciate the beauty of each gender…just like I can appreciate my partners as just people without their genders in specific.

Anyone have any idea how I can identify? I sure as hell don’t.

Now...be nice. I know some people in specific on this site think that this idea is full of bullshit. So, if you don't have anything constructive to say, then just shut the fuck up and keep it to yourself.

Love you all.

[Socks]

I honestly feel as if you want to experience the world from the dominant perspective of the male, while still retaining all of the privileges and advantages of being a natural female, without any consequence whatsoever, other than fulfilling whatever whimsical overall preference and desire you may have for things. Unfortunately, this is not the way an individual can function in a social group, which is the general set of ideas and practices of many individuals. This you do not like, but it's the nature of the situation.

It is clearly a choice, too much intelligence perhaps, too much confusion, personal issues, perhaps even a subconscious desire to act out in this way so as to blur the distinct nature of men and women in order to diminish or even remove the unique spheres of influence that we occupy in this world, and have done so historically.

[Socks]

As for your style, meh, too much divergence between extremes dilutes any sense of originality or consistency. It's like those confused teenagers who wear all kinds of different shit every other day to show how 'incredible' they are, when really they're just showing they have no fucking idea as to who they are in the first place.

[Hippopo]

I don't think the idea is full of bullshit.  I'm curious, though, what the problem is.  Do you want a more specific vocabulary to describe your feelings?  Or are you just frustrated with people trying to make you choose one gender over the other?

I feel gender runs into most problems when we want to define it as an objective, general set of universal terms.  If a limited vocabulary is your problem, adding more vocab won't solve anything; it'll just make it more complex, frustrating, and closed-in.  If anything, we should eliminate the vocabulary, or at least recognize that no one is going to be the perfect masculine or the perfect feminine.  They are nothing more than ideas. 

Be happy with your feelings, and describe them the way you just did.  If people are questioning you, either explain the situation to them or move on to more accepting people.

[kougraducky]

I don't think the idea is full of bullshit.  I'm curious, though, what the problem is.  Do you want a more specific vocabulary to describe your feelings?  Or are you just frustrated with people trying to make you choose one gender over the other?

I feel gender runs into most problems when we want to define it as an objective, general set of universal terms.  If a limited vocabulary is your problem, adding more vocab won't solve anything; it'll just make it more complex, frustrating, and closed-in.  If anything, we should eliminate the vocabulary, or at least recognize that no one is going to be the perfect masculine or the perfect feminine.  They are nothing more than ideas. 

Be happy with your feelings, and describe them the way you just did.  If people are questioning you, either explain the situation to them or move on to more accepting people.

Yay! Someone understandssss!!!
I guess you're right...it's just, I wish there were more acceptance amongst the gender-queer world. When I go to support groups for this shit, they only cater to people who wish to transition and have a clear one way or the other idea of who they wanna be. I don't wanna transition...and who I wanna be changes as the days do. So, how am I supposed to feel support when the closest community I have any ties to are all telling me I'm full of shit and should shut up because obviously their problems are worse and mine isn't?

[??????]

^ cissexual privilege
anyways why do you have a need to identify in the first place
for validation for your fluidity--which tends to be a dynamic, shifting conceptualized structure?  

Be happy with your feelings, and describe them the way you just did.  If people are questioning you, either explain the situation to them or move on to more accepting people.

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SPOKE TOO LATE

Trannies are really strange (i guess, compensation and insecurity makes them overly obsessed on clinging onto gender norms)--LGBT groups are still sometimes so overly focused on 'gender' and gender expression.
They really don't go into detail with things like pansexuality or asexuals.

I don't think the LGBT group is really a group for people who are transcendening through gender norms
maybe try alternative groups--hippie-esque...new age

[kougraducky]

^ cissexual privilege
anyways why do you have a need to identify in the first place
for validation for your fluidity--which tends to be a dynamic, shifting conceptualized structure?  


SPOKE TOO LATE

You guys are the only people who understand...COME LIVE IN MY CLOSET!

[??????]

READ IT AGAIN i added more

i dunno i guess i had vaguely similar 'issues'
except i would rather be exposed to polyamorous/pansexuality material because i'm started to develop a rejection for monogamy and traditional forms of intimacy (...maybe because of deep seated fears perhaps? maybe i can't cope with people in the long term? can someone become so emotionally healthy that they don't feel the need to have a lover? etc)
ironically i can also be very apathetic and have no libido because i'd rather focus on myself 

dunno
DON'T KNOW MOM

[kougraducky]

except i would rather be exposed to polyamorous/pansexuality material because i'm started to develop a rejection for monogamy and traditional forms of intimacy (...maybe because of deep seated fears perhaps? maybe i can't cope with people in the long term? can someone become so emotionally healthy that they don't feel the need to have a lover? etc)

Join the crowd.

[??????]

i used to read up on material and a bunch of feminist/psychoanalytic jargon until i realized it was another defense mechanism that didn't let me progress forward

now i just force myself to experience things
it's great
it shatters your preconceived illusionary judgments and strings you together with objective reasoning--sometimes people develop beliefs that are tied within your imaginations and sometimes that isn't really beneficial for yourself or anyone at all

self-sabotage, delusions, biases, etc.
i would say to go look elsewhere besides your lgbt group
but yeah--new age/folksy groups tend to accept your ideas that you have now
maybe they'll work in the long term
maybe not
but you'll have to know now or forever REST IN piss <3

DON'T BE LIKE ME
because i'm literally stuck in development because i'd rather have stale, meaningless comfort
give me a sense of security and some pillows and you've got me right in the sack

[kougraducky]

Can I just marry all of Boyah?

[??????]

okay but famy and felt are off limits and echo is just too gay 

[kougraducky]

okay but famy and felt are off limits and echo is just too gay 

I can deal with being Echo's beard. 

[Socks]

sometimes people develop beliefs that are tied within your imaginations and sometimes that isn't really beneficial for yourself or anyone at all

Words of wisdom after all.

[Andria]

okay but famy and felt are off limits and echo is just too gay 

hey that's even more reason to marry me.