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Started by Kalahari Inkantation, December 29, 2011, 07:05:39 PM

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Thyme

Quote from: Tectron on November 08, 2015, 03:39:48 PM
[spoiler]actually, this might be more appropriate for the only vestige of happiness thread[/spoiler]


lol yeah, everytime i see this thread pop up in the index i'm like "what's happening to the vita this time? awdood;"

ME##

Quote from: Tectron on November 08, 2015, 03:39:48 PM


actually, this might be more appropriate for the only vestige of happiness thread[/spoiler]


lol @_@


how can you have such poor control over yourself

Snowy

Quote from: Tectron on November 08, 2015, 03:39:48 PM
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=J7_w9iFozbs[/youtube]

[spoiler]

actually, this might be more appropriate for the only vestige of happiness thread[/spoiler]
tec was that you?

bluaki

Now that I have a Vita and am actually trying to use it, I realize it's kinda amazing how many ways Sony screwed up the Vita's storage management.
[spoiler]* Like PSP but unlike any other handheld gaming system ever (and unlike every console since PS2 and Gamecube), memory cards are for the first model a mandatory sold-separately accessory even for physical games.
* For the slim model, 1GB internal storage is a joke. It's impossible to find a 2014 smartphone with less than 8GB storage, even in the $100 off-contract price range. Even 3DS comes with a 2-4GB SD card in every SKU.
* Memory card prices (about 7x the price of microSD: compare $12 vs $80 for 32GB)
* 64GB memory card never released in US (well, it'd probably cost almost as much as a new Vita if it was)
* If you swap between memory cards, the Vita forgets your home screen layout
* You can't delete a game without deleting its save data
* You also can't delete individual save files without deleting them all
* You can't have multiple accounts on a Vita (or even PS TV); switching accounts requires factory resetting and possibly swapping memory cards if you don't want to wipe yours, with is particularly problematic for people who want to import games from Vita's vast localization-never library.
* There are plenty of classic games which Sony lets you play on a Vita, but doesn't let you download to one, instead requiring a roundabout process of downloading a game to a PS3 (even PSP games that the PS3 doesn't support playing) and then transferring to a Vita[/spoiler]

That's 9 points not even counting the extra issues that PS TV has. And I'm probably even missing a few.

That said, I use a 16GB memory card, which I guess is enough for me since there aren't that many more Vita games I want but don't already own physically. I'm sure that if I bought every Vita game that I already own on other platforms I'd run out of space. There (thankfully) aren't any Japanese Vita games I want enough to go through that trouble.

TooB

Quote from: bluaki on November 09, 2015, 11:07:15 AM
Now that I have a Vita and am actually trying to use it, I realize it's kinda amazing how many ways Sony screwed up the Vita's storage management.
[spoiler]* Like PSP but unlike any other handheld gaming system ever (and unlike every console since PS2 and Gamecube), memory cards are for the first model a mandatory sold-separately accessory even for physical games.
* For the slim model, 1GB internal storage is a joke. It's impossible to find a 2014 smartphone with less than 8GB storage, even in the $100 off-contract price range. Even 3DS comes with a 2-4GB SD card in every SKU.
* Memory card prices (about 7x the price of microSD: compare $12 vs $80 for 32GB)
* 64GB memory card never released in US (well, it'd probably cost almost as much as a new Vita if it was)
* If you swap between memory cards, the Vita forgets your home screen layout
* You can't delete a game without deleting its save data
* You also can't delete individual save files without deleting them all
* You can't have multiple accounts on a Vita (or even PS TV); switching accounts requires factory resetting and possibly swapping memory cards if you don't want to wipe yours, with is particularly problematic for people who want to import games from Vita's vast localization-never library.
* There are plenty of classic games which Sony lets you play on a Vita, but doesn't let you download to one, instead requiring a roundabout process of downloading a game to a PS3 (even PSP games that the PS3 doesn't support playing) and then transferring to a Vita[/spoiler]

That's 9 points not even counting the extra issues that PS TV has. And I'm probably even missing a few.

That said, I use a 16GB memory card, which I guess is enough for me since there aren't that many more Vita games I want but don't already own physically. I'm sure that if I bought every Vita game that I already own on other platforms I'd run out of space. There (thankfully) aren't any Japanese Vita games I want enough to go through that trouble.
Not that it's a good excuse, but I believe they made it like that to combat the fact that people homebrewed the shit outta their psp's

bluaki

Quote from: Jojo on November 09, 2015, 11:49:58 AM
Not that it's a good excuse, but I believe they made it like that to combat the fact that people homebrewed the shit outta their psp's
That's just the excuse for using proprietary memory cards at all. Anti-piracy has nothing to do with anything I listed, including those proprietary memory cards being so overpriced.

Having a proprietary memory card should increase the price a little compared to a standard like microSD just on the virtue of having only one manufacturer. For example, when I say a 32GB card might cost $12, that's only one of the SanDisk cards I found in a quick Amazon search (and not coincidentally the #1 most popular card), but it's entirely possible to find those cards also at about $20. But not $80.

Out of all accessories to throw an enormous profit margin on, from a console manufacturer's perspective, a memory card is just about the worst choice. Normally their biggest source of revenue is games (with digital games being even more profitable than physical), but insanely overpriced memory cards goes directly against the idea of wanting people to buy more digital games or DLC.

TooB

Quote from: bluaki on November 09, 2015, 12:11:03 PM
Quote from: Jojo on November 09, 2015, 11:49:58 AM
Not that it's a good excuse, but I believe they made it like that to combat the fact that people homebrewed the shit outta their psp's
That's just the excuse for using proprietary memory cards at all. Anti-piracy has nothing to do with anything I listed, including those proprietary memory cards being so overpriced.

Having a proprietary memory card should increase the price a little compared to a standard like microSD just on the virtue of having only one manufacturer. For example, when I say a 32GB card might cost $12, that's only one of the SanDisk cards I found in a quick Amazon search (and not coincidentally the #1 most popular card), but it's entirely possible to find those cards also at about $20. But not $80.

Out of all accessories to throw an enormous profit margin on, from a console manufacturer's perspective, a memory card is just about the worst choice. Normally their biggest source of revenue is games (with digital games being even more profitable than physical), but insanely overpriced memory cards goes directly against the idea of wanting people to buy more digital games or DLC.
true

Kalahari Inkantation

Quote from: Snowy on November 08, 2015, 09:01:36 PM
Quote from: Tectron on November 08, 2015, 03:39:48 PM
[youtube][youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=J7_w9iFozbs[/youtube][/youtube]

[spoiler]

actually, this might be more appropriate for the only vestige of happiness thread[/spoiler]
tec was that you?


...smithicide;



Thyme

lmao

[spoiler]i'd get heavy rain[/spoiler]

Kalahari Inkantation

[spoiler]

on ps3, maybe

but beyond two souls is one of the most pretentious, cliched, poorly-written pieces of lifetime drama ever conceived[/spoiler]

ME##

Quote from: Tectron on November 19, 2015, 04:14:03 PM
[spoiler]

on ps3, maybe

but beyond two souls is one of the most pretentious, cliched, poorly-written pieces of lifetime drama ever conceived[/spoiler]
[spoiler=génuine opinion]i like beyond two souls[/spoiler]

Nyerp

heavy rain is way worse than beyond imo

but they're both complete shit

TooB

I like heavy rain
its... heavy goowan

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