.

[?????]

i dont even remember why im pissy

but chances are i have a bad reason.

I think you will develop Alzheimer's

[Socks]

I only had 13 dollars, all of which I owed to a friend

Damn it Socks you sold me better than he did :'(

knowing myself i would have still given him that money and accepted the books genuinely, as if at bargain and under gift. then i would have worried about paying my friend all the way home. i guess i'm prone to being extremely generous and deceptively naive when approached for compassionate services, especially by people at miserable ends.

[rdl]

I think you will develop Alzheimer's

i think im already retarded in some way im not entirely aware of yet

[?????]

i think im already retarded in some way im not entirely aware of yet

It's never too early to begin decaying. 

[wawi]

europe = not religious
america = religious

america = no gay rights, contradicts bible
europe = not religious, doesnt care about bible, chances are theyre cool with gays because why else hate them

This is really a broad generalization...

[Daddy]

They're not quite as vocal as half the asshole atheist i've met are.

confirmation bias methinks

if they're not quite as vocal then why was obama's religion such a huge issue in the last election
why is gay marriage such a huge issue
why do individuals of certain religious (or non religious) backgrounds have no chance of winning elections in their districts?

you should know me by now i never remember the point of what im arguing

that is expected from your kind

what does this mean

such a proposition doesn't exist. i can't think of any legislation that intends to restrict the equality or freedom of people to attempt to impose "atheist values".

the inverse of banning gay marriage--allowing it--doesn't force any values upon christians does it.  they are perfectly free not to get a gay marriage. oh no those evil atheists


you said implying and telling. im trying to make a point out of that. what it comes down to is essentially telling the other party that they're stupid. would you rather someone told you that you're a moron, or that they implied it? being told straight out is hard hitting, having it implied is just kind of awkward and degrading. they're both not nice, but, oh well.

agnosticism is belief that there's some sort of divine force that acts without having a sort of religion set up to worship him. what else would it be.

uh no it isn't?

agnostic theism maybe but not agnosticism as a whole...what you described is far from agnosticism

i dont understand yo
oh
wait wait wait, how could atheism not operate off of chance? how else could it be organized without the belief in an organizer? big bang happened by chance, earth was formed by chance, earth became inhabitable instead of mars and venus because it ended up just far away from the sun, microorganisms evolved because of that.

no one knows why the big bang was formed, however if it wasn't formed no one would be here to say it was formed by chance, so it either happened or it didn't so if it happened the chance is irrelevant.

formation of the earth is not chance. such a process has been repeated throughout the universe. hundreds of extrasolar planets and planets in our own solar system, as well as observed formation of stars and their circumstellar disks show that this is not chance.

about earth being inhabitable just because it's "just far enough away from the sun" is a stupid argument. venus and mars also fit in that zone as do many discovered extrasolar planets.  WAIT JMV ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT IT ISN'T CHANCE THAT LIFE AROSE ON A PLANET THAT WAS IN THE GOLDILOCKS ZONE?  this probably still doesn't make much sense to you if you think a sky wizard did it.

uh let me try to put it in simple terms. if you line 100 people up and put a gun on a pivot with that can rotate 5.6Ã,º left and right and start firing the gun.  is it chance that someone in the range of the pivot got hit and not the 99th person in line?  sure it's possible that no one could get hit, but being in the range where being hit is possible is not chance because something outside the range wasn't hit.

of course with planets it gets more complicated but your example is stupid


you mean microorganisms evolved on a planet where life formed rather than one that didn't? DAMN WHAT CHANCE IS THAT.  

it all roots in an event that could or could not have happened. but it did. correct

lol go take a science class and a statistics class sir

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i was talking more about tardnosticism and whatever you made up

[Nyerp]

imo god is an opinion and u jsut need to open you're mind too it

[?????]

imo god is an opinion and u jsut need to open you're mind too it

Your open onion is invalid

[Daddy]

imo god is an opinion and u jsut need to open you're mind too it

jmv is such an asshole


imo understanding science is not required when you have faith and you can say the atheists are close minded


atheists should just open they're mind to it man. they need to stop being so close mined to ignorance of how science works and fall back on faith because the misunderstanding is not making sense


that is just my equallyvalid opinion though

[rdl]

confirmation bias methinks

if they're not quite as vocal then why was obama's religion such a huge issue in the last election
why is gay marriage such a huge issue
why do individuals of certain religious (or non religious) backgrounds have no chance of winning elections in their districts?


that is expected from your kind
such a proposition doesn't exist. i can't think of any legislation that intends to restrict the equality or freedom of people to attempt to impose "atheist values".

the inverse of banning gay marriage--allowing it--doesn't force any values upon christians does it.  they are perfectly free not to get a gay marriage. oh no those evil atheists


you said implying and telling. im trying to make a point out of that. what it comes down to is essentially telling the other party that they're stupid. would you rather someone told you that you're a moron, or that they implied it? being told straight out is hard hitting, having it implied is just kind of awkward and degrading. they're both not nice, but, oh well.

uh no it isn't?

agnostic theism maybe but not agnosticism as a whole...what you described is far from agnosticism

no fuck knows why the big bang was formed, however if it wasn't formed no fuck would be here to say it was formed by chance, so it either happened or it didn't so if it happened the chance is irrelevant.

formation of the earth is not chance. such a process has been repeated throughout the universe. hundreds of extrasolar planets and planets in our own solar system, as well as observed formation of stars and their circumstellar disks show that this is not chance.

about earth being inhabitable just because it's "just far enough away from the sun" is a stupid argument. venus and mars also fit in that zone as do many discovered extrasolar planets.  WAIT JMV ARE YOU TELLING ME THAT IT ISN'T CHANCE THAT LIFE AROSE ON A PLANET THAT WAS IN THE GOLDILOCKS ZONE?  this probably still doesn't make much sense to you if you think a sky wizard did it.

uh let me try to put it in simple terms. if you line 100 people up and put a gun on a pivot with that can rotate 5.6º left and right and start firing the gun.  is it chance that someone in the range of the pivot got hit and not the 99th person in line?  sure it's possible that no fuck could get hit, but being in the range where being hit is possible is not chance because something outside the range wasn't hit.

of course with planets it gets more complicated but your example is stupid


you mean microorganisms evolved on a planet where life formed rather than fuck that didn't? DAMN WHAT CHANCE IS THAT. 

lol go take a science class and a statistics class siri was talking more about tardnosticism and whatever you made up

i dont know

[Daddy]

it's ok you are like 15

oh there are more to that post



i go off the observable and the empirical. filling the gaps with the unobservable and the unempirical is not reasonable.


i know to the degree that i know any other deity is also factual.


uh i would say 6, 6.5 if you find that 1-7 scale

[?????]

it's ok you are like 15

I think he said he was 15, unless you mean red dicks.

[rdl]

it's ok you are like 15

17, and a half

btw i didnt get your example with the gun can you explain it to me

also why do i need to know stats i dont get it

[Daddy]

17, and a half

and you know the world

btw i didnt get your example with the gun can you explain it to me

[/quote]if someone is in a position to get shot and another person not in a position to get shot, the person in the position to get shot has an infinitely higher probability of getting shot than the person who was not in such a position.

now say that there were hundreds of millions in each group.  if one person got shot in that group yes there is chance and probability that that 1 individual got shot but for any individual to get shot is a different story.

also why do i need to know stats i dont get it

billions of planets over billions of light years over billions of years.

probability, causality, etc.

[rdl]

do you believe our current understanding of physics is correct? in the past scientists have been entirely wrong because the system they followed was wrong. what makes now different from then? 500 years down the line, what are the chances that they won't be laughing at our attempts to understand the universe?

and you know the world

of course i read therefore i am