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Nyerp

Quote from: Nyerp on July 24, 2015, 09:21:05 PM
well im probably not gonna try that until right before the final boss lol


speaking of which, is the boss of 1-4 the final boss or am i free to do shit afterwards?

TooB

Quote from: Nyerp on July 25, 2015, 09:35:13 AM
Quote from: Nyerp on July 24, 2015, 09:21:05 PM
well im probably not gonna try that until right before the final boss lol


speaking of which, is the boss of 1-4 the final boss or am i free to do shit afterwards?
He's "supposed to be" the final boss, but I don't think the game ends after fighting him. I think if you're able to fight him, but still haven't beat other bosses, then the game goes on.

I can't fully remmeber though. I might say look it up to be sure.

Samus Aran

1-4 is not the final boss by any means. You can fight him at any point after you've killed another area's last boss (as 1-3 is locked until you do so). Cinematically, he is best saved for last because he's story-important and stuff. That's all. Also he can be pretty fucking hard.

The game progresses to its finale after you've killed every boss demon. At that point, a new area in the Nexus becomes available, and you can end the game at your convenience whenever you choose. You can do as much as you want before ending the game.

Nyerp


Nyerp

lol i got an npc for the old monk fight oh well

Kalahari Inkantation

it's virtually impossible to get anything but the npc these days :(

Samus Aran

Yeah, pretty much. DeS online scene is almost nonexistent at this point, pretty well restricted to a handful of players seeking PvP on 4-1.

Nyerp

killed storm king (THE POWER OF GOD AWESOME) and maiden astraea (:()

[spoiler]i fell into the pit of babies and died sillydood;[/spoiler]

Nyerp

July 28, 2015, 11:22:40 AM #218 Last Edit: July 28, 2015, 12:11:47 PM by Nyerp
allant is complete fucking horseshit

is this even possible without the ability to roll fast?

Samus Aran

what do you mean "roll fast"

you're not fat rolling, are you? a roll with your equip load under 50% or your max is what you should always have at the very least.

there are movement speeds faster than below 50% equip load, but the differences are less noticeable than under 50% vs over 50%, and generally unnecessary

some simple tips to kill allant include:

-do not use magic weapons or spells as allant is highly magic resistant
-keep moving so as to not get caught by the soulsucker grab
-use your shield a lot, most of his standard strikes are easily absorbed by your shield
-when he points his sword down and starts glowing, he is about to do his AoE attack. if you are a good distance from him, you can run away from this, if not, instead attack him because you can interrupt the attack with your own.
-since this is a generally close-range melee fight with an aggressive boss, you're going to be dodging a lot and absorbing a lot of hits in your shield, so good stamina management is a must. you can use the eternal warrior's ring to help, but mostly you just need to be good at knowing when you can leave your shield down to get stamina back faster. and remember that blocking his rush of combo'd strikes takes more stamina than simply dodging out of the way and avoiding the whole combo in one dodge.

TooB


Nyerp

Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on July 28, 2015, 06:19:07 PM
what do you mean "roll fast"

you're not fat rolling, are you?


i've been playing the whole game while avoiding rolling LMAO. am i just supposed to wear really weak armor to get below 50%? im not sure i have any

Quote from: Sakura Kinomoto on July 28, 2015, 06:19:07 PM
-since this is a generally close-range melee fight with an aggressive boss, you're going to be dodging a lot and absorbing a lot of hits in your shield, so good stamina management is a must. you can use the eternal warrior's ring to help


uhhh getting that ring is harder than the final boss lol

the main problem i have with this fight is that sometimes he starts that fucking combo RIGHT after i attack him and he destroys me. so i guess i really do need the fast roll

also he soulsucked me once and i got really pissed and ragequit lol. that move is bullshit

Quote from: Thyme on July 28, 2015, 06:25:54 PM
and there's always the "thyme is a fucking faggot" method of [glow=black,2,300]shooting arrows at him from a distance right when you enter[/glow]


tbh if i get soulsucked again i'm trying this

Samus Aran

oh damn you've been avoiding rolling? tbh rolling well is the ideal way to play any souls game. i mean shields are great but a balance between the two is what you want. and you'll want to be good at rolling if you ever play bloodborne cause that one doesn't have shields and it's faster-paced

anyway, i mean yeah you have to sacrifice some armor strength to be able to roll better. it's not a bad switch if you do get better at rolling, as being able to dodge and take no damage at all is certainly better than being able to withstand slightly more damage.

i think for my demon's souls build i wear pretty heavy armor but i use the ring that doubles max equip load so that i still stay under 50% of my max. ring of great strength. very easy to find, it's in 1-1 under the dragon's tail in the dragon nest area.

Nyerp

yeah i have that ring. guess i'll try it. thanks

Nyerp

BEAT THE GAME AWESOME i give it a 9/10

i beat false allant in one try after putting the ring of great strength on lol. i can't believe i played through most of the game without rolling. i didn't even have to sacrifice any of the armor i was wearing

thanks for all the help & advice guys. i'll be sure to spam the dark souls thread someday too :)

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