whats the harm?

[Daddy]

You took my statement too broadly, JMV.  I meant that it should be let go on Boyah. You can campaign all you want out there in the real world if you think it's right. We're just sick of seeing it here.

There's people here that also hold the views that have plagued society and caused problems. They support preventing people from marrying someone they love. I think that's reason enough not "not let it go"

And I don't recall anyone here saying that you're going to burn in Hell for an eternity, but if they did, I wouldn't like it either. I'm not one-sided here. If someone said something like that I'd call them out too.

Their religion that they follow and use as a guide to their lives says so.

[Bolivian Army]

Hey, Matthew, that reminds me of another passage. I can't quite put my finger on it.
Oh yeah, it's related to this argument...
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+5%3A17-18&version=NIV
"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished.

The old laws are specifically mentioned that "not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen" of the old testament laws is changed until "heaven and earth disappear".  Silly how that works.
inorite.

You realize "until all is accomplished" is referring to Jesus' Ministry, right? That's why much of the old testament is still applicable, but not a model for Christian behavior today.  I can't really tell if you're agreeing with me or not.

[Daddy]

You realize "until all is accomplished" is referring to Jesus' Ministry, right? That's why much of the old testament is still applicable, but not a model for Christian behavior today.  I can't really tell if you're agreeing with me or not.

Where does it say such is referring to "Jesus' ministry" since "until heaven and earth disappear" infers otherwise.

[Bolivian Army]

Where does it say such is referring to "Jesus' ministry" since "until heaven and earth disappear" infers otherwise.

Well, for one, the chapter is called "Christ came to fulfill the law."

"until heaven and earth disappear" is confirming the full authority (Completely true, still applicable today, etc.) of the OT, like I said before.

I don't really see how it infers otherwise.

[Daddy]

Well, for one, the chapter is called "Christ came to fulfill the law."

"until heaven and earth disappear" is confirming the full authority (Completely true, still applicable today, etc.) of the OT, like I said before.

I don't really see how it infers otherwise.

Still applicable today like stoning your child for disobeying you?

Also next verses after what I posted:


Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.


Clearly shows that such rules, even least of such, are applicable.

[Bolivian Army]

Also next verses after what I posted:


Anyone who breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.


Clearly shows that such rules, even least of such, are applicable.

That's what I just said.

The rules haven't changed, it's still a sin to break the fifth commandment. But Jesus dieing on the cross changed the old way. That's why you don't see people sacrificing goats and stoning people. Back in the OT, they were foreshadowing the coming of Christ.

[Samus Aran]

There's people here that also hold the views that have plagued society and caused problems. They support preventing people from marrying someone they love. I think that's reason enough not "not let it go"

Their religion that they follow and use as a guide to their lives says so.

Yeah, so that's what they believe...so what? If they don't try to force it down your throat, why does it honestly matter to you, at least on Boyah?

[Daddy]

That's what I just said.

The rules haven't changed, it's still a sin to break the fifth commandment. But Jesus dieing on the cross changed the old way. That's why you don't see people sacrificing goats and stoning people. Back in the OT, they were foreshadowing the coming of Christ.

The rules stated that stoning people was required.  Or is that rule specifically changed. 

[Bolivian Army]

The rules stated that stoning people was required.  Or is that rule specifically changed. 

No, the fifth commandment is different from Moses' punishment for violating it. Maybe I'm not being clear.

The entire OT is the expression of God's will but, according to the bible, is now to be taught according to Jesus' interpretation of its intent and meaning.

[Daddy]

No, the fifth commandment is different from Moses' punishment for violating it. Maybe I'm not being clear.

The entire OT is the expression of God's will but, according to the bible, is now to be taught according to Jesus' interpretation of its intent and meaning.

whoa
Passage that says such?


Still even if it said so, which all Christians obviously don't believe, doesn't excuse jews which are still are religion.

[Bolivian Army]

well you go right ahead and give it to them jews jmv

give it to em real nice

[Daddy]

well you go right ahead and give it to them jews jmv

give it to em real nice

Find me some practicing jews and their penis mutilations and I wil.

[sans culottes]

I doubt the existence of god and the supernatural, but I can't deny that there's a possibility of it being true. I don't know if there is a Heaven, but I sure hope there is. I'd rather live in eternal paradise than rot in the ground. You'd either be a pompous "enlightened" asshole or just plain stupid to prefer rotting in the ground rather than eternal paradise.

[Ezloﺕ]

I doubt the existence of god and the supernatural, but I can't deny that there's a possibility of it being true. I don't know if there is a Heaven, but I sure hope there is. I'd rather live in eternal paradise than rot in the ground. You'd either be a pompous "enlightened" asshole or just plain stupid to prefer rotting in the ground rather than eternal paradise.

im pretty sure your body stays in the ground even if you go to heaven

[sans culottes]

im pretty sure your body stays in the ground even if you go to heaven

thanks for the obvious, bro