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I don't have to deal with Christfags. cjlubdoods;

But...

Well people who are "fuk religion man im a kewl atheist because i feel liek a rebel!" are no better since most of them fail to see the things that really make religion horrible and are just atheist because they're lazy and don't feel like reading a religious book.

[Veal]

Uh atheists are not an organization or religion or faith but how does that change anything? You guys are all looking at this as "Christians are just taking whatever is in the Bible and shoving it down our throats. They're not even thinking, they just believe whatever their religion says blindly! Atheists on the other hand come up with morals and laws each individually all on their own, which makes their beliefs way more valid." Well if you believe that you really aren't thinking. I believe what I believe for a REASON. Not just because I like following some 2,000 year old book and whatever some old people say. I'm 19, I can think on my own, and same goes for the rest of us who believe these things. Sure "atheism" is not a religion or an organization but there sure is a goddamn lot of you who all believe the same thing and are all banding together to get the same laws passed. I don't see how that's any different than "Christians" all "forcing their beliefs" on everyone.

You guys are forcing your beliefs just as hard. All you want is equal rights and to not prohibit things? Where does that end? You say you only want to make laws prohibiting people to do things that will harm others. Well guess what, "Christians" or whatever are the same way except we disagree on what "harms" others. In my opinion, homosexuality is harmful. Sex out of marriage is harmful. Drugs are harmful. It's harmful to the people doing it, and it's harmful to others. Let's not make this an argument about gay marriage or whatever though, this is about "forcing beliefs" on others. We're not forcing our beliefs any more than you are. We're trying to do what we think is fucking best for the country and for society as a whole, not just trying to put a limit on fun and happiness and make everyone the same. So stop acting like we have our Bibles down your throats when in reality we have our arms open wide.

[Veal]

And Rawl, you're 17. Grow up.

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 Okay, either Veil is making fun of religion, or hes just really retarded and doesn't realize how stupid he sounds. 

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And Rawl, you're 17. Grow up.

Who still talks to their ceiling and thinks there is a wizard in the sky that makes everything better after you die?  

[j o e i n c]

how is being gay harmful to others
how is having sex before marriage harmful to others
how are durgs harmful to others

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how is being gay harmful to others
how is having sex before marriage harmful to others
how are durgs harmful to others

hay man, you need to grow up and see how you're harming others by minding your own business and being happy

[Andria]

how is being gay harmful to others
how is having sex before marriage harmful to others
how are durgs harmful to others

I agree on the first two but the last can have harmful effects on your friends and family

[j o e i n c]

hay man, you need to grow up and see how you're harming others by minding your own business and being happy

damn you and your logic   Q('_' Q)

echo

i would say yes DURGS CAN be harmful.  of course it depends on what durg. i think addictive durgs are harmful because they change yer brain all up.

it also depends on the usage.

of course that's just for the individual.

for friends and family durgs are only a problem if

1. they have a moral problem with them EX. religion
2. the person has a problem like addiction or whatever
3. your meth lab blows up
4. 2nd hand smoke

[Feynman]

What rational reason do you have to believing in it? You say you have a reason but you never elaborate.

Religion is detrimental to society, it's primitive thinking, it's irrational, it's not based on any valid evidence, and it's all just bullshit. The fact that you say you have a reason in believing any of it makes you look like an idiot. You just have to be an idiot to follow any of that dogma, and apparently you are.

Are you saying religion is great because it provides a moral code of values? Seriously? You can have morality and a society with values without all the intolerance and ignorance of religion. Look at Norway and Sweden. They're doing fine, I don't see everyone getting drunk and killing each other like you religious folk think what atheists do. Religion is completely unnecessary to guide society. The only things that should be prohibited are those that are harmful to OTHERS.

As for forcing beliefs, Christians and the church are perhaps the most belief flaunting faggots in the country. Atheists don't talk about it as much as christians do. Religious people can't go two sentences without mentioning God or Jesus, or Yahweh or Allah—it's not only annoying, it's stupid. You're stupid. Religion isn't good for society, that's the problem. It's actually detrimental to society, by indoctrinating our youth to reject science and rationality for magic and Hogwarts. Our youth comes out retarded like you—thinking Christians have the best in mind for society... Christians want Jesus to come back and want the world to end. Jews want to rule the world, and Muslims want Jesus to announce he's Muslim and end the war in an apocalyptic battle against the anti-christ. That's the prime agenda on all these religious folks' minds—they couldn't care less about how well society could function.

If you take the approach that this life is all we got—and that there is no god watching us, and every person starving in this planet is our fault, and it's not an imaginary man's responsibility, we get a mindset that helps society as a whole. We begin to focus on how we can better things for everyone. How, because this life is it, we embrace our human curiosities and study the cosmos and pass legislation and policies that benefit society as a whole. Equality. We don't get that with religion—religion is anti-egalitarian. Religious people think this is all simply a test, and this world is meaningless. That's a stupid way to live, it really is. There is no evidence to prove their viewpoint, and until there is, this life is all we got, this planet is all we got, and we need to care and respect for each other... and that isn't going to happen until religion is gone. I wish.

Religion encourages closed-mindedness, racism, elitism, ignorance, intolerance, bigotry, condescendence, and idiocy. There's no good in that. No good at all.

[Daddy]

Uh atheists are not an organization or religion or faith but how does that change anything?

Hold this thought for a second.

You guys are all looking at this as "Christians are just taking whatever is in the Bible and shoving it down our throats. They're not even thinking, they just believe whatever their religion says blindly! Atheists on the other hand come up with morals and laws each individually all on their own, which makes their beliefs way more valid."

They come up with morals and values based on what benefits society.

Well if you believe that you really aren't thinking. I believe what I believe for a REASON.

What is the reason?

Not just because I like following some 2,000 year old book and whatever some old people say.

Tell that to the tens of millions of Americans whose arguments against Same-sex marriage is "lol if god wanted men to marry men he would make adam and steve xDDD", It's bullshit to pretend that religion isn't a major factor in that bigotry.

I'm 19, I can think on my own, and same goes for the rest of us who believe these things.

As a whole, that isn't true for most Christians in this country.

Sure "atheism" is not a religion or an organization but there sure is a goddamn lot of you who all believe the same thing and are all banding together to get the same laws passed. I don't see how that's any different than "Christians" all "forcing their beliefs" on everyone.

The only belief that defines "atheism" is the lack of a belief in a God.  The only argument against many of the things we "ae all banding together" for are based on religion. There are no logical arguments against it.

How isn't it any different?

Christians banning same sex marriage:

Homosexuals who don't believe the teachings of that religion are unable to get married. The christian values are depriving them of a civil right.


"Atheists" allowing same-sex marriage:

protip: no one is being forced to do anything. We aren't forcing you to go let a man fuck you in the ass.  We aren't forcing your church to allow them to marry. What "we are forcing" is equality under the law.

"Our values" aren't forcing you to violate your own values: they are just allowing people who don't share your values to live a life with their own values.

You guys are forcing your beliefs just as hard.

if those atheists get their way I will be forced to suck dicks and abort my babies.

All you want is equal rights and to not prohibit things?

Prohibiting bigotry, indoctrination, and other methods that restrict rights of others.

Where does that end?

This slope sure is slippery

You say you only want to make laws prohibiting people to do things that will harm others.

uh a subset of people do yes

Well guess what, "Christians" or whatever are the same way except we disagree on what "harms" others.

ie actions that will SMITE YE

In my opinion, homosexuality is harmful.

Buttsex hurts? I dont' get how it's harmful.

Sex out of marriage is harmful

Only the first time.

Drugs are harmful.

1. Marijuana isn't.
2. Sending people to jail for years and destroying families is far more harmful.

It's harmful to the people doing it, and it's harmful to others.

I heard of this guy that smoked so much pot that he ate 3 bags of cheetos and a large pizza.

Let's not make this an argument about gay marriage or whatever though, this is about "forcing beliefs" on others. We're not forcing our beliefs any more than you are.

Yes you are. Banning it is forcing your belief that is wrong upon everyone and not allowing those who dont' have a problem with it to marry.  Allowing it doesn't remove your right to be against it and not get a same-sex marriage. It does preserve the right of everyone else though.

We're trying to do what we think is fucking best for the country and for society as a whole, not just trying to put a limit on fun and happiness and make everyone the same. So stop acting like we have our Bibles down your throats when in reality we have our arms open wide.

Name an argument against same-sex marriage that isn't based on the Bible

PREEMPTIVE  ARGUMENT:

-Infertile Couples
-Couples who don't want to have children

[j o e i n c]

lemme guess veal

where you raised as a christian? as a kid

were you taught when you were a kid that that is what was right

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 Oh you've done it now JMV, Veal will prove you wrong and show how horrible Atheists are shoving those beliefs down our throats. Just put on your Vans, adjust your studded belt, and put on your Aviator glasses and kick JMV's ass with your Christian logic Veil.  Q('_' Q)

[Veal]

Okay, either Veil is making fun of religion, or hes just really retarded and doesn't realize how stupid he sounds.  

Yeah those are the only two options, aren't they Rowl?

Who still talks to their ceiling and thinks there is a wizard in the sky that makes everything better after you die?  

I don't know who, the fuck does that, Riwl?

Oh you've done it now JMV, Veal will prove you wrong and show how horrible Atheists are shoving those beliefs down our throats. Just put on your Vans, adjust your studded belt, and put on your Aviator glasses and kick JMV's ass with your Christian logic Veil.  Q('_' Q)

Hey how did you know I wear all those things Rewl?!

Hey I have to go to work and then to my friend's house maybe I can respond to the rest later tonight but that depends on how much there is so try not to circle jerk each other for another 9 hours. Bye.

Oh also stop making me out as some horrible person who's attacking everyone. I mean jeez louise I'm just defending what I believe in, I'm not the one who made a thread about "christfags".

[Daddy]

But I want a reply to my post.