Do You Believe in God?

[ncba93ivyase]

The fact that Jews in general accept his existance doesn't sway you guys huh?

Greeks said the universe came from an egg.

CLEARLY, THIS IS TRUE SINCE THEY ARE VIEWED AS ONE OF THE GREATEST CIVILIZATIONS EVER.

What have Jews ever done?

[Daddy]

The fact that Jews in general accept his existance doesn't sway you guys huh?

Jews also accept existence of God, that doesn't sway me.

[YPrrrr]

Jews also accept existence of God, that doesn't sway me.

*sigh* all the people who surrounded him were Jewish (or Roman)

the fact that they're religious automatically discredits their ability to narrate historical facts?

[Daddy]

*sigh* all the people who surrounded him were Jewish (or Roman)

the fact that they're religious automatically discredits their ability to narrate historical facts?

When it comes to religious figures, yes.

[YPrrrr]

When it comes to religious figures, yes.

Ugh... I'm trying to prove him historically not spiritually.

[Daddy]

Ugh... I'm trying to prove him historically not spiritually.

Then use historical sources, not religious ones.

[TheExAm]

I have to agree with JMV here:

Fast forward through intro, watch it.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

[Daddy]

I have to agree with JMV here:

Fast forward through intro, watch it.
http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/

I embedded zeitgeist into a thread here.

http://valentrinne.com/boyah/index.php?topic=11147.0 ; educate;

It's a 2 hour video, but it's a great video.  He would only have to watch the first half hour though.

[TheExAm]

I embedded zeitgeist into a thread here.

http://valentrinne.com/boyah/index.php?topic=11147.0 ; educate;

It's a 2 hour video, but it's a great video.  He would only have to watch the first half hour though.

Yes, I posted that link while the religious part was still on. It's also a 9/11 conspiracy video. Extremely convincing, though. Shaken my already frail faith in our government.

[Himu]

YOU ALSO BELIEVE ANYONE OF MIDDLE EASTERN DESCENT, SUCH AS ZAYNA, ARE EVIL PEOPLE THAT LIVE JUST TO DESTROY AMERICAN "FREEDOM."cool

No I dont.

I'm afraid if there is a hell I dont want to go there.  So it cant hurt to believe.

[Zack777]

No I dont.

I'm afraid if their is a hell I dont want to go there.  So it cant hurt to believe.

Well, maybe hell isn't that bad

[Himu]

Well, maybe hell isn't that bad

Well, heaven sounds better in my opinion.

[Daddy]

Yes, I posted that link while the religious part was still on. It's also a 9/11 conspiracy video. Extremely convincing, though. Shaken my already frail faith in our government.

Well, I doubt Bush or "the government" had anything directly to do with the attacks, but rather certain people within the government and armed services. 

Through indirect actions, yes the US was responsible.  They trained the many people in Al Qaeda, their actions caused Osama Bin Laden to gain influence. The government caused a lot of the issues that lead up to the attacks. 

Bush is an idiot, he isn't capable of planning such an attack.    Certain members of his cabinet and Cheney, yes they are purely capable of it and I wouldn't put it past them.   All it takes is some manipulation and you get whatever you want.  I'm sure that he was convinced that if he went along he would be able to go after Saddam, thus completing his own agenda. He went along with it, he knew what was going on but he wasn't anywhere near the mastermind of it.

Nothing is certain though, that's only what I believe. I'll stop there because that's not really the subject of this thread. 

[Zack777]

Well, heaven sounds better in my opinion.

But in heaven there are no hookers or beer!

[Daddy]

Well, heaven sounds better in my opinion.

Lying to yourself and forcing yourself into a belief that you don't really have full faith in is no way to live.  Your religion doesn't matter.  If I'm wrong about everything and God exists I have nothing to worry about, I did nothing wrong.  I'm not the one who scares people into believing in him with threats of eternal damnation in Hell. 

And even if God does exist, how can you be sure that you're following the right religion?   You could be forcing yourself to believe a lie, just to end up in Hell.   

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heaven ; Take a look at that.  Many different  religions have different beliefs on what exactly gets you into heaven.   


I'm going to do what I think is right because I think it's right. Not what some deity who may or may not even exist defines as being right.  I'll be a good person.   Chances are, that places me in a better place than hypocritical Christians who only preach the word of God, but fail to act on it.   

If I go to Hell, oh well.  If I go to Heaven, cool.   If Enlil, Enki, Krishna, Vishnu, Horus, or Osiris are actual Gods, oh well.