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FullMetal Alchemist: Conquerer of Shambala

Started by KonohaShinobi, July 07, 2008, 08:39:56 AM

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YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!


Warning: Do not bother reading the rest of this post for it will contain spoilers pertaining to the series and the movie as stated in the thread subject

I finally got around to watching it, and it was awesome. I didn't think I could love and appreciate the series anymore after watching all 51 episodes of the original anime series, but this film just upped the ante.

My favorite bits:
The Badass battle between Gluttony V.2 versus Wrath!

The gypsy song at the beginning of the film

Roy Mustang's life after Edward's disappearence (Roy was my favorite character throughout the original series, so seeing him with his cool eyepatch and his lower rank was pretty badass.)

Edward's return to his own world and his courageous decision to traverse back to beyond the gate.

Overall the movie was awesome, I really couldn't even pinpoint all my favorite parts in this movie it was so good. But I do have a tiny question about the dragon humonculus thing.

what the hell was that about? I remember Edward saying it was some humunculus, but I do not know which one it was and how it enabled that german chick to create the portal to "Shambala".

Also, when Hohenheim of Light aka Ed's father died in the alternate universe beyond the gate, did he die in the real world also? I don't remember whether or not Hohenheim went into the gate before Ed in the original series.

So yeah, Discuss FMA's greatness!

Sam

The dragon homonculus? That's Envy.

Remember in the last episode when Envy revealed that he was actually also the son of Hohenheim, he went into the gate in search of his father to kill him.  And on his way through the gate, he changed into a dragon, which is the same dragon you see in the movie.

The portal could only be opened by two homonculi on either side of the gate; in this case wrath and envy.

Though there are like... 'parallels' of people in our world. (I call the alternate world beyod the gate our world because that's what it's meant to be; a world wehere the people focus on science instead of alchemy. ) Each character only exists once. So if Ed died in our world, he would just be dead. He clearly hasn't been around in his own side of the gate. So, same goes for hohenheim. He ahs been in our world for much longer than Ed, and when he died, he just died. He wasn't in his own side of the gate, why would he still be alive there?

My favorite part of the movie was just the character parallels between dimensions. I was so happy when I saw Hughs. giggle; Even though, he was kinda an asshole for most of the movie. It was also interesting to see taht Rose's parallel ended up being a bitch.  doodella; (I never liked Rose much).

What's weird is that 90% of people you talk to about this movie absolutely hated the way it ended. Personally, I love it. The ending coldn't have possibly be done any better, if you ask me. The entire series, Ed and Al searched for their mother (and maybe even their father a bit) because they wanted someone to love them. All along.. all they really needed was each other. And of course, this was made obvious when ythey were seperated by te gate.

So when they finally got each other, do you really think they would be willing to let go? Just for some alchemy? No way. The movie ended with Ed and Al together, happy as can be. But it also gives that touch of bitersweet (super-happy endings suck) with leaving their lives behind, and leaving all their friends on the other side of the gate.

I just love FMA. It's been kmy favorite anime ever since I watched it. I have the special edition DVD for this movie, signed by vic (giggle;).  This anime is just so so so in-depth and meaningful.. it's hard to find anything that competes with it.
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Quote from: Sammie on July 07, 2008, 10:36:08 AM
The dragon homonculus? That's Envy.

Remember in the last episode when Envy revealed that he was actually also the son of Hohenheim, he went into the gate in search of his father to kill him.  And on his way through the gate, he changed into a dragon, which is the same dragon you see in the movie.

The portal could only be opened by two homonculi on either side of the gate; in this case wrath and envy.

Though there are like... 'parallels' of people in our world. (I call the alternate world beyod the gate our world because that's what it's meant to be; a world wehere the people focus on science instead of alchemy. ) Each character only exists once. So if Ed died in our world, he would just be dead. He clearly hasn't been around in his own side of the gate. So, same goes for hohenheim. He ahs been in our world for much longer than Ed, and when he died, he just died. He wasn't in his own side of the gate, why would he still be alive there?

Ahh, I never looked into it as the world beyond the gate as our world, but it makes sense.
Sadly I did not remember such important things from the final episode of the anime series (seriously need to re-watch that amazing work of art and storytelling.)
QuoteMy favorite part of the movie was just the character parallels between dimensions. I was so happy when I saw Hughs. giggle; Even though, he was kinda an asshole for most of the movie. It was also interesting to see taht Rose's parallel ended up being a bitch.  doodella; (I never liked Rose much). 

I loved how Ed was ready to beat down the Fuhrer although he turned out to actually be on his side.
QuoteWhat's weird is that 90% of people you talk to about this movie absolutely hated the way it ended. Personally, I love it. The ending coldn't have possibly be done any better, if you ask me. The entire series, Ed and Al searched for their mother (and maybe even their father a bit) because they wanted someone to love them. All along.. all they really needed was each other. And of course, this was made obvious when ythey were seperated by te gate.

So when they finally got each other, do you really think they would be willing to let go? Just for some alchemy? No way. The movie ended with Ed and Al together, happy as can be. But it also gives that touch of bitersweet (super-happy endings suck) with leaving their lives behind, and leaving all their friends on the other side of the gate.

Ahh, yes I thought that the ending was perfect as is. And I think that the other alchemists on the otherside of the gate understand Ed and Al's bond and were willing to let Alphonse go to be with Edward since, as you stated, all they really need is eachother. Really beautiful.
QuoteI have the special edition DVD for this movie, signed by vic (giggle;).  This anime is just so so so in-depth and meaningful.. it's hard to find anything that competes with it.

So lucky to meet vic :( I wish I knew someone in the business :'(

Sam

Quote from: Prince Lelouch on July 07, 2008, 11:01:43 AM
Ahh, I never looked into it as the world beyond the gate as our world, but it makes sense.
Sadly I did not remember such important things from the final episode of the anime series (seriously need to re-watch that amazing work of art and storytelling.)I loved how Ed was ready to beat down the Fuhrer although he turned out to actually be on his side.Ahh, yes I thought that the ending was perfect as is. And I think that the other alchemists on the otherside of the gate understand Ed and Al's bond and were willing to let Alphonse go to be with Edward since, as you stated, all they really need is eachother. Really beautiful.So lucky to meet vic :( I wish I knew someone in the business :'(

If I were you, I'd watch the final two episodes of the series, then the movie again, then I'd rewatch the entire series.

Oh.. and I also met Caitlin.. Belle.. or Caitlin Glass or something. Come to think of it, her name might not even be Caitlin.  O_0
But she was the voice of Winry. She was kinda cool I guess, can't say I'd want to hang out with her, but she was definitely nice. Also very religious.
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Quote from: Sammie on July 07, 2008, 11:57:02 AM
If I were you, I'd watch the final two episodes of the series, then the movie again, then I'd rewatch the entire series.

Oh.. and I also met Caitlin.. Belle.. or Caitlin Glass or something. Come to think of it, her name might not even be Caitlin.  O_0
But she was the voice of Winry. She was kinda cool I guess, can't say I'd want to hang out with her, but she was definitely nice. Also very religious.

AHH, did you ask any of them to do the voices for you? Like say your name or something as Edward  caterpie;

Why are they all so religious?
And by very religious do you mean like, constantly grasping a bible and quoting verses religious or what?

Sam

Quote from: Prince Lelouch on July 07, 2008, 12:02:21 PM
AHH, did you ask any of them to do the voices for you? Like say your name or something as Edward  caterpie;

Why are they all so religious?
And by very religious do you mean like, constantly grasping a bible and quoting verses religious or what?

No way, they hate that. They only do voices for crowds, generally.

And by religious, I mean if you ask them anything about  their carreer they always make a point to give god credit for putting them where they are today.
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KonohaShinobi

Quote from: Sammie on July 07, 2008, 12:18:48 PM
No way, they hate that. They only do voices for crowds, generally.

And by religious, I mean if you ask them anything about  their carreer they always make a point to give god credit for putting them where they are today.

Yeah, I would suppose so.

Everyone does that, lol. It's not terribly religious.

Sam

Quote from: Prince Lelouch on July 07, 2008, 12:23:10 PM
Yeah, I would suppose so.

Everyone does that, lol. It's not terribly religious.

Everyone does not do that. And I don't just mean "thank god"., I mean:

"I'm terribly blessed to be where I am.. I felt my carreer was not working as I had planned, so I prayed to Christ, and was led down the path of voice-acting, A day doesn't go by that I don't pray and thank the lord for the fantastic opportunities he's given me."

I know it's nit terribly religious, but it's definitely more than most others. To be saying that in front of whole crowds? And also, I have his CD, at least half of the songs are about his love for God. And also, on the Sunday of Connecticon, he and Caitlin held mass. >.>;
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KonohaShinobi

Quote from: Sammie on July 07, 2008, 12:27:26 PM
Everyone does not do that. And I don't just mean "thank god"., I mean:

"I'm terribly blessed to be where I am.. I felt my carreer was not working as I had planned, so I prayed to Christ, and was led down the path of voice-acting, A day doesn't go by that I don't pray and thank the lord for the fantastic opportunities he's given me."

I know it's nit terribly religious, but it's definitely more than most others. To be saying that in front of whole crowds? And also, I have his CD, at least half of the songs are about his love for God. And also, on the Sunday of Connecticon, he and Caitlin held mass. >.>;

You didn't mention that before D:
Are they the biggest guests Conneticon has had?

Sam

Quote from: Prince Lelouch on July 07, 2008, 12:29:46 PM
You didn't mention that before D:
Are they the biggest guests Conneticon has had?
Truthfully, they're not that big. I mean, the crowd for Vic was only about 100 people (of about 10,000).

People are more into the music acts and web comic artists. Last year Scott Roomsywoomsy was supposed to go, but he had to back out last minute. This year he'll be there though. ;)

I don't really know who the past guests have been. In terms of fame, I suppose Vic is among the top. He had to be escorted in so as not to be raped by fan girls.
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KonohaShinobi

Quote from: Sammie on July 07, 2008, 12:33:51 PM
Truthfully, they're not that big. I mean, the crowd for Vic was only about 100 people (of about 10,000).

People are more into the music acts and web comic artists. Last year Scott Roomsywoomsy was supposed to go, but he had to back out last minute. This year he'll be there though. ;)

I don't really know who the past guests have been. In terms of fame, I suppose Vic is among the top. He had to be escorted in so as not to be raped by fan girls.

Yeah, in terms of fame, lol. I was wondering if they ever had an Akira Toriyama or a Natsuki Takaya (I would love to meet her just to pick her brain <3). I was reading earlier that Comicon was hosting Tite Kubo (Creator of Bleach and the shortlived ZombiePowder [which happened to be his first serial]) but they usually get big stars like that.
Otakon does not seem to pick of many huge stars either.

Sam

Quote from: Prince Lelouch on July 07, 2008, 12:40:28 PM
Yeah, in terms of fame, lol. I was wondering if they ever had an Akira Toriyama or a Natsuki Takaya (I would love to meet her just to pick her brain <3). I was reading earlier that Comicon was hosting Tite Kubo (Creator of Bleach and the shortlived ZombiePowder [which happened to be his first serial]) but they usually get big stars like that.
Otakon does not seem to pick of many huge stars either.
For this year, Otakon has already announced a couple huge people.

For one, Maseo Maruyama is returning. He founded Madhouse Studios, known for:
QuoteBarefoot Gen, Dagger of Kamui, Record of Lodoss Wars, Urusei Yatsura, Vampire Hunter D, Ninja Scroll, Cardcaptor Sakura, Trigun, Perfect Blue, X, Boogiepop Phantom, Chobits, PitaTen, Abenobashi Maho Shotengai, Ninja Scroll, Dragon Drive, Gungrave, Gunslinger Girl, Black Lagoon, Kiba, Nana, Tokyo Tribe 2, Beck, Monster, Highlander: Search for Vengeance, Devil May Cry, Death Note, and the upcoming Red Line.


also
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KonohaShinobi

Quote from: Sammie on July 07, 2008, 12:46:22 PM
For this year, Otakon has already announced a couple huge people.

For one, Maseo Maruyama is returning. He founded Madhouse Studios, known for:
also


Red Line? Sounds interesting.

Larcenciel? Did they produce any songs I may have actually heard?

Sam

Quote from: Prince Lelouch on July 07, 2008, 12:49:35 PM
Red Line? Sounds interesting.

Larcenciel? Did they produce any songs I may have actually heard?

Maybe, I dunno. They're a really famous band in Japan, really really really good.

[spoiler][youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=tYItB7TmdbA[/youtube][/spoiler]
That could be one you may have heard.
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Sam

OH. DUH.

You'd know this one:
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=YimTFQ5udYw[/youtube]
*ignore the video, you should recognize the song.
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