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Started by V, June 01, 2008, 04:00:29 PM

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Meyer Lansky

You're smoking that straight from Peru, 95% raw heron.

V

Quote from: FREDO on June 01, 2008, 04:09:34 PM
You're smoking that straight from Peru, 95% raw heron.
Who has a hotter album out right now?

Meyer Lansky

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 04:10:06 PM
Who has a hotter album out right now?
A hot album doesn't make it a classic. You, sir, are BUGGING.

V

Quote from: FREDO on June 01, 2008, 04:10:53 PM
A hot album doesn't make it a classic. You, sir, are BUGGING.

What album do you consider a classic?

It's different. His style is on a whole other level right now. No one is fucking with him.

Meyer Lansky

June 01, 2008, 04:24:25 PM #5 Last Edit: June 01, 2008, 04:43:32 PM by FREDO
Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 04:12:19 PM
What album do you consider a classic?

It's different. His style is on a whole other level right now. No one is fucking with him.
Classics are Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Ready To Die, AmeriKKKa'z Most Wanted, The Blueprint, It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back, Aquemini, Supreme Clientele, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, 36 Chambers, Liquid Swords, Midnight Marauders, The Low End Theory, Doggystyle, The Chronic AND The Chronic 2001, Things Fall Apart, Illadelph Halflife, Can I Borrow A Dollar?, Resurrection, One Day It'll All Make Sense, et al.

Yeah, his style is different. I've told other people already that I liken TC3 to Ye's Graduation in the sense that they both went different directions and still managed to make a good album. But to call this a classic is to spit in the face in all of those albums I just named. Shit, TC3 ain't even even seeing Tha Carter on it's worst day.

DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE . . . word to Public Enemy.

V

Quote from: FREDO on June 01, 2008, 04:24:25 PM
Classics are Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Ready To Die, AmeriKKKa'z Most Wanted, The Blueprint, It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back, Aquemini, Supreme Clientele, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, 36 Chambers, Liquid Swords, Midnight Marauders, The Low End Theory, Doggystyle, The Chronic AND The Chronic 2001, Things Fall Apart, Illadelph Halflife, Can I Borrow A Dollar?, Resurrection, One Day It'll All Make Sense, et al.

Yeah, his style is different. I've told other people already that I liken TC3 to Ye's Graduation in the sense that they both went different directions and still managed to make a good album. But to call this a classic is to spit in the face in all of those albums I just named. Shit, TC3 ain't even even seeing Tha Carter on it's worst day.

DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE . . . word to Public Enemy.


Lol.

Tha Carter? Tha Carter catered to the South more than anything. Tha Carter III is way better than TC.

And you forgot to add Marshall Mathers Lp in your list of classics.

He elevated his flow, style, and everything on this album. I consider it a classic.

Meyer Lansky

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 05:44:19 PM
Tha Carter? Tha Carter catered to the South more than anything.
Catered to the south?

So that's why me and all my friends from high school and everybody I go to school with in NEW FUCKING YORK see how dope Tha Carter is, right? Tha Carter is just GRODT with that Louisiana/CMR style.

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 05:44:19 PM
Tha Carter III is way better than TC.

I consider it a classic.

Like I said, you smoking that white girl hard body making stupid ass statements like that. You walk up to anybody with a half a brain about hip hop and they'll look at you like you "Mr. Clean with hair". Take Wayne's nuts out your mouth . . .

Tha Carter > Tha Carter II >>> Tha Carter III

There's no argument about it . . .

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 05:44:19 PM
And you forgot to add Marshall Mathers Lp in your list of classics.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/et+al

V

Quote from: FREDO on June 01, 2008, 05:52:01 PM
Catered to the south?

So that's why me and all my friends from high school and everybody I go to school with in NEW FUCKING YORK see how dope Tha Carter is, right? Tha Carter is just GRODT with that Louisiana/CMR style.

Not catered to the south as in only made for them, but it had a more southern feel to it. I'm in Philly and I love the cd. What's your point?

Quote from: FREDO on June 01, 2008, 05:52:01 PM
Like I said, you smoking that white girl hard body making stupid ass statements like that. You walk up to anybody with a half a brain about hip hop and they'll look at you like you "Mr. Clean with hair". Take Wayne's nuts out your mouth . . .

Tha Carter > Tha Carter II >>> Tha Carter III

There's no argument about it . . .
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/et+al
You're stupid if you think "there's no argument about it."

First of all, you're trying to disprove an opinion. I think the Carter III is classic. Nuts in my mouth?

I too can say take Jay's nuts out yours for considering the Blueprint a classic; he dumbed down his lyrics and it was filled with bullshit girl/ party crap, but it was still hot in it's own way for it's time. That's what makes a classic.

Jay-z had some of the wackest lines; "Every time I hit the ground I bounce up like round ball." Come on man.

But the corny lines are overlooked because of his status and previous work; he has already proved a good lyricist, so he can get away with the bullshit, just like Wayne with the aforementioned line you said.

Lmao at you comparing GRODT with TC I. They are in no way similiar.


Meyer Lansky

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 06:02:09 PM
Not catered to the south as in only made for them, but it had a more southern feel to it. I'm in Philly and I love the cd. What's your point?
Philly and NYC are two completely different cities in terms of damn near everything so throwing that disclaimer really meant nothing.

So because an album has a southern feel to it it can't be widely praised and/or liked? Is that what you're trying to say? All those people that liked Tha Carter all rock with Trap Muzik, Thug Motivation 101, The Fix, ALL OUTKAST, ALL UGK . . . see where I'm going? When it comes down to THE MUSIC, regions don't mean shit. If your music is hot than your music is hot and you get recognition for that.

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 06:02:09 PM
First of all, you're trying to disprove an opinion. I think the Carter III is classic.
You right; your opinion, your crack, your pipe, do YOU son.


Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 06:02:09 PM
I too can say take Jay's nuts out yours for considering the Blueprint a classic; he dumbed down his lyrics and it was filled with bullshit girl/ party crap, but it was still hot in it's own way for it's time. That's what makes a classic.

Jay-z had some of the wackest lines; "Every time I hit the ground I bounce up like round ball." Come on man.

But the corny lines are overlooked because of his status and previous work; he has already proved a good lyricist, so he can get away with the bullshit, just like Wayne with the aforementioned line you said.
Point out where I hopped on ANY artist's nuts. GO AHEAD.

You asked for classic albums, I gave you definitive classic albums.

But see, now you're just talking about shit you don't know . . . NOW I'll have to "hop on" Jay's nuts because your silly ass is talking reckless. "Bullshit girl/party crap" . . . hmm, let's see:

The Ruler's Back
Takeover
U Don't Know
Hola Hovito
Heart Of The City (Ain't No Love)
Never Change
All I Need
Renegade
Blueprint (Momma Loves Me)/Lyrical Exercise

So according to you, there's 4 tracks of "Bullshit girl/party crap". But the thing people don't seem to understand is that, like B.I.G. and like Nas, Hov never falters and brings heat to EVERY track. Problem is, half it goes over niggas heads. Dumb down his lyrics? Give me more lines where he "dumbed" himself down. That round ball line is better than half the shit Wayne has been saying the past year. And no, Weezy does not get the same pass that you claim that Jay does because Jay never sacrificed the quality of his music. Once again, walk up to anybody that knows ANYTHING about rap talking that "Blueprint ain't a classic" bullshit . . . I warn you, you WILL get the taste slapped out your mouth.

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 06:02:09 PM
Lmao at you comparing GRODT with TC I. They are in no way similiar.
Really? A raw, gutta album talking about killing this nigga and that nigga and making money and fucking hoes coming from a young nigga out the hood just trying to make some money . . .

EDIT:

And my opinion is not biased in any way WHATSOEVER . . . I'M the one that started the TC3 thread and I said it was good . . . I even got this drugged up mufucka as my signature . . . but YOU? You just talking out your ass now b. Quit while you're ahead.

V

June 01, 2008, 07:18:56 PM #10 Last Edit: June 01, 2008, 07:25:21 PM by V
Quit while I'm ahead?

Go to a forum that debates all day about this type of shit like me. The majority of the people there recgonize this album as one the best they have heard in a while. I never said it couldn't be praised by everyone, but he has shown growth from his southern-style and now has elevated.

Jay-Z even claimed himself he dumbed down his Lyrics(check Moment of Clarity on the Black Album). psyduck; So defending him is pointless and making you sound like a clown.  Shit, Jay even said "now it's your go" to Wayne on the song "Mr. Carter." The GOAT officially passed the baton to him, so to try and argue that Wayne isn't being molded into one of the best this game has seen is a lost cause.

In my opinion, I said it's a classic. Now, will it be accepted as one by the Hip Hop world, we don't know yet.




V

And no, Philly and New York aren't that different.

And you say that as if people from Philly listen/hear to music differently than New Yorkers. psyduck;

Meyer Lansky

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 07:18:56 PM
Go to a forum that debates all day about this type of shit like me.
Already do. My opinion is the same as 95% of everyone else.

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 07:18:56 PM
Jay-Z even claimed himself he dumbed down his Lyrics(check Moment of Clarity on the Black Album).
Yes, so people like YOU could pick up on what he was saying.

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 07:18:56 PM
(check Moment of Clarity on the Black Album)
Side note, I laughed when I read that. "Check it out", like I don't have every one of this nigga's albums . . . come on, now.

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 07:18:56 PM
Shit, Jay even said "now it's your go" to Wayne on the song "Mr. Carter." The GOAT officially passed the baton to him . . .

How'd he "officially pass(ed) the baton to him" when Jay still has another album to put under his Def Jam contract and signed a contract stating he had put 3 albums in the 10 years that he's signed? What, you think Jay, the cocky, egotistical nigga who ran his two best friends out his camp is just gonna sit back and let Wayne rock while he's still breathing? When he saw how short life can be because he used to be with B.I.G. like a brother? No, Jay ain't stopping 'til he's breathed his last breath. This nigga is like WINE. Jigga ain't gonna let Wayne pass him, he's gonna keep him at a distant second place.

V

Quote from: FREDO on June 01, 2008, 07:26:51 PM
Already do. My opinion is the same as 95% of everyone else.
Yes, so people like YOU could pick up on what he was saying.
Side note, I laughed when I read that. "Check it out", like I don't have every one of this nigga's albums . . . come on, now.
How'd he "officially pass(ed) the baton to him" when Jay still has another album to put under his Def Jam contract and signed a contract stating he had put 3 albums in the 10 years that he's signed? What, you think Jay, the cocky, egotistical nigga who ran his two best friends out his camp is just gonna sit back and let Wayne rock while he's still breathing? When he saw how short life can be because he used to be with B.I.G. like a brother? No, Jay ain't stopping 'til he's breathed his last breath. This nigga is like WINE. Jigga ain't gonna let Wayne pass him, he's gonna keep him at a distant second place.

Like me? I understand everything the nigga spits out his mouth.

Wayne surpassed Jay. Look at "American Gangster." That album was fucking trash. He's losing it.


Meyer Lansky

Quote from: V on June 01, 2008, 07:41:29 PM
Look at "American Gangster." That album was fucking trash. He's losing it.
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