The Death Penalty

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Sure, if it says "no shirts, no service", then you're right, other then how, how would walking barefoot be indecent?

in the same way that going in bare chested would be

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in the same way that going in bare chested would be

no it wouldn't

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no it wouldn't

elaborate

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elaborate

If a woman removes her shirt, there could be some problems. However, if a woman removes her shoes, it's not that big of a deal.

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If a woman removes her shirt, there could be some problems. However, if a woman removes her shoes, it's not that big of a deal.

i wasn't speaking of females, given that the rules typically apply to men as well but whatever

simple way to prove your point: find a case with the details you've mentioned
shouldn't be that hard, given that you have the entire internet at your fingertips

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i wasn't speaking of females, given that the rules typically apply to men as well but whatever

simple way to prove your point: find a case with the details you've mentioned
shouldn't be that hard, given that you have the entire internet at your fingertips

I was speaking of females, as an example. And either way, I just noticed that I had misread your earlier post. Anyways, for this situation, why do we need evidence?

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I was speaking of females, as an example.

And either way, I just noticed that I had misread your earlier post.

Anyways, for this situation, why do we need evidence?

okay, but the rules don't apply exclusively to females
bare chested men can still have a negative effect on the other customers and their willingness to buy stuff from the establishment, even though there's nothing exactly indecent about it

which one (this detail is kind of important )

Evidence of what?  A lawsuit similar to what you describe?
if so, well uh yeah generally when you make claims it's expected that you be able to back them up

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okay, but the rules don't apply exclusively to females
bare chested men can still have a negative effect on the other customers and their willingness to buy stuff from the establishment, even though there's nothing exactly indecent about it

which one (this detail is kind of important )

Evidence of what?  A lawsuit similar to what you describe?
if so, well uh yeah generally when you make claims it's expected that you be able to back them up

I wasn't too sure about giving that up, but the point remains...

The first post on page 5.

I never said such a case existed, however, I was only giving an example about the stupid little things people can sue for with no real reason (except be an idiot).

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So, what, every case would be decided by a show of hands?

it would be like american idol

call 1-888-DIEORLIVE

put 1 4 life and put 2 4 death vote nao ^_^

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I never said such a case existed, however, I was only giving an example about the stupid little things people can sue for with no real reason (except be an idiot).

so you gave an example that doesn't exist in order to back up your point

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so you gave an example that doesn't exist in order to back up your point

Just because I can't find find such case or that it doesn't exist, doesn't mean that no such case will ever exist.

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Just because I can't find find such case or that it doesn't exist, doesn't mean that no such case will ever exist.

but until you do, it's a bad example 

"hey there's a lot of frivolous lawsuits that make the system suck.  take this one that i can't find any evidence for as an example..."

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but until you do, it's a bad example 

"hey there's a lot of frivolous lawsuits that make the system suck.  take this one that i can't find any evidence for as an example..."

I said it was possible that there is no case/yet about the type of lawsuit I mentioned.

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I said it was possible that there is no case/yet about the type of lawsuit I mentioned.

But you're still using it as justification for your resentment of civil law..

also, another point of yours was that such a case was the cause of the ubiquitous "no shirt no blah etc." signs, but if you're going to say that it might not have happened yet then you might want to revise that

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But you're still using it as justification for your resentment of civil law..

also, another point of yours was that such a case was the cause of the ubiquitous "no shirt no blah etc." signs, but if you're going to say that it might not have happened yet then you might want to revise that

That's the closest thing to evidence I have, and I had already (at least hinted at) that:

I can only deduce that there was a similar lawsuit, but with some carpet and something sharp stabbing the person's foot. Which is why most businesses has a "no shoes, no shirt, no service" policy.