How useful will it be?

[Samus Aran]

Title, if you want to grow up and be something that you hate, be my guest. I'm not trying to sound all mushy or anything, but doing what you want really is a great path to happiness.

JMV likes computers and wants to work with them. So fucking what? Let him. He doesn't seem to care if he doesn't make some extra cash, so why even bring that up? A person should do what they want in life, not what is dictated by money (unless money is all that makes you happy).

Quit being a dumbass. Not everyone wants to work in the medical field.

[Auburn]

Okay you're a complete dumbass.

I got accepted to UAT and UMass.  I can barely afford my school, you fucking retard.   That's why I go here.  Not everyone grows up in a nice condo in New York, and goes around pretending to be all bad ass. 

If you think that going to internet forums instead of focusing on working prevents you from going to a good college, allow me to do you the favor a preventing you from hindering your future in the medical field.


Explain how $100,000+, which is well above the median income here, in a field that I'd actually enjoy  is better then not much more money in a field that costs much more to get into( college is more expensive, and much longer), pays only slightly more, and that I wouldn't enjoy at all?

Not everyone is a capitalist faggot whose only goal in life is to make as much money as possible regardless of whether or not they want to do what they are doing.


Now, as you said, going to internet forums instead of studying prevents you from going to college. I wouldn't want you to miss out on your chance at Yale, little boy.  I'll do you the favor of banning you.

I'm going to do you the favor of saying this only once:

I didn't grow up in a nice condo in New York, I grew up in Southern Texas with a single mother with 4 kids. We rent the goddamn apartment, get it right.

If you had read my post, you would know that I clearly stated that I didn't trust your work ethic or intelligence to make that much in that particular field. And to be honest, I'm not so wrong in thinking that. Just because you're taking a god damn course at some god damn middle-of-nowhere school in Massachusetts does not mean you're going to be making $100,000. I don't know who told you that you could, but it's not going to happen. There IS such thing as scholarships, but that would require hard work, something that you're made clear you were not capable of doing. And don't pull the "I don't care about money" string. You DO care about money, and you would be making 500,000 dollars a year if you could, but you're not going to. You're not going to make 100,000, I'll guarantee you that. But go ahead and ban someone, because that'll make it all better ^_^

[Daddy]

I'm going to do you the favor of saying this only once:

I didn't grow up in a nice condo in New York, I grew up in Southern Texas with a single mother with 4 kids. We rent the goddamn apartment, get it right.

If you had read my post, you would know that I clearly stated that I didn't trust your work ethic or intelligence to make that much in that particular field. And to be honest, I'm not so wrong in thinking that. Just because you're taking a god damn course at some god damn middle-of-nowhere school in Massachusetts does not mean you're going to be making $100,000. I don't know who told you that you could, but it's not going to happen. There IS such thing as scholarships, but that would require hard work, something that you're made clear you were not capable of doing. And don't pull the "I don't care about money" string. You DO care about money, and you would be making 500,000 dollars a year if you could, but you're not going to. You're not going to make 100,000, I'll guarantee you that. But go ahead and ban someone, because that'll make it all better ^_^

Salem State College is one of the largest state colleges in Massachusetts, you retard. It's far from a middle of nowhere school.   Last time I checked, Salem is pretty close to Boston and is well known.  If you paid attention in history you'd understand that.

And I did get a scholarship, but it only covers TUITION. 

wahawhwaha
No, money is not my number one concern.   I'm not you.

And I can assure you that  I could easily make 100k after graduation.


also dodging ban lol

[ncba93ivyase]

And I can assure you that  I could easily make 100k after graduation.

lol jaykay

Just knowing a bit about other operating systems won't land you the strenuous job of building up a new operating system.

[Daddy]

lol jaykay

Just knowing a bit about other operating systems won't land you the strenuous job of building up a new operating system.

this coming from the guy who has no plans to go to college

I was providing that job as an example.  psyduck;


He claimed that a computer science degree would only get you a job that would not get anything more than 30,000 dollars, which is significantly lower then the starting pay for many computer science jobs.  I provided examples of 2, out of many, jobs that have well over that. 


Title's philosophy is that if you are not working in a job where you cannot make the maximum amount of money, you are lazy and have no motivation.   Title's logic states that Politicians, Teachers, Police Officers, Soldiers, Clergy, Scientists, and many other jobs that are important to our society are the result of lazy people. 


He thinks that maximizing your salary is the only way to achieve happiness, which is completely retarded.     Sure, having extra money is a nice thing, but there is no need to make your only goal in life to make as much money as possible.    Being happy with what you do should be more important.    Not everyone needs to be in the Capitalist class, or the Upper class, to be happy.   

His belief that the medical field is far more important because it pays more and "it's understaffed" mixed together the flawed capitalist logic that money is everything and the flawed communist logic of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

The work force should subscribe to "from each according to his ability, to each according to his deeds", if you are good at something and enjoy it, that is what you should do.    You shouldn't do a job just because it is good for a society.  You shouldn't do a job just because it pays a lot.




I realized that money isn't the most important thing before I was 14.    The fact that Title has yet to realize this shows how truly blind and stupid he is.    I may be lazy but at least I'm not doomed to the fate of never realizing that capitalism is flawed.   

Title's view of intelligence and success is based on where you go to college, how big your pay check is, what you do for a job.   Such a viewpoint only shows complete ignorance.  While Title may think that a future with a larger paycheck may make him better than me, I will have something he'll never have: The ability to think freely.     His entire view on life revolves on what others think of him.    Having lots of money will make people love him.   Not letting people know he uses internet forums protects his "social status" in school, even when he denies knowing some one from the internet.


Sure, he may have financial success, but he will never gain intellectual success.   

[Title27GT]

Salem State College is one of the largest state colleges in Massachusetts, you retard. It's far from a middle of nowhere school.   Last time I checked, Salem is pretty close to Boston and is well known.  If you paid attention in history you'd understand that.

And I did get a scholarship, but it only covers TUITION. 

wahawhwaha
No, money is not my number one concern.   I'm not you.

And I can assure you that  I could easily make 100k after graduation.


also dodging ban lol

Well, gosh, Darma, that Salem was included in those witch stories, right? Let's go check out the colleges there!

[Title27GT]

this coming from the guy who has no plans to go to college

I was providing that job as an example. 


He claimed that a computer science degree would only get you a job that would not get anything more than 30,000 dollars, which is significantly lower then the starting pay for many computer science jobs.  I provided examples of 2, out of many, jobs that have well over that. 


Title's philosophy is that if you are not working in a job where you cannot make the maximum amount of money, you are lazy and have no motivation.   Title's logic states that Politicians, Teachers, Police Officers, Soldiers, Clergy, Scientists, and many other jobs that are important to our society are the result of lazy people. 


He thinks that maximizing your salary is the only way to achieve happiness, which is completely retarded.     Sure, having extra money is a nice thing, but there is no need to make your only goal in life to make as much money as possible.    Being happy with what you do should be more important.    Not everyone needs to be in the Capitalist class, or the Upper class, to be happy.  

His belief that the medical field is far more important because it pays more and "it's understaffed" mixed together the flawed capitalist logic that money is everything and the flawed communist logic of "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs"

The work force should subscribe to "from each according to his ability, to each according to his deeds", if you are good at something and enjoy it, that is what you should do.    You shouldn't do a job just because it is good for a society.  You shouldn't do a job just because it pays a lot.




I realized that money isn't the most important thing before I was 14.    The fact that Title has yet to realize this shows how truly blind and stupid he is.    I may be lazy but at least I'm not doomed to the fate of never realizing that capitalism is flawed.  

Title's view of intelligence and success is based on where you go to college, how big your pay check is, what you do for a job.   Such a viewpoint only shows complete ignorance.  While Title may think that a future with a larger paycheck may make him better than me, I will have something he'll never have: The ability to think freely.     His entire view on life revolves on what others think of him.    Having lots of money will make people love him.   Not letting people know he uses internet forums protects his "social status" in school, even when he denies knowing some one from the internet.


Sure, he may have financial success, but he will never gain intellectual success.   

And what would you describe as intellectual success? I would describe it as knowing that you worked to your potential and got into a good college which would open up a lot of opportunities to go into a lot of fields. The fact I have done my work with a little bit of pride in high school and am on my way to getting into a good college does not mean I only care about money, it means I want the freedom to be recognized by employers and have an opportunity to make a damn good life for myself

[Daddy]

Well, gosh, Darma, that Salem was included in those witch stories, right? Let's go check out the colleges there!

When you live in a city it's not really looking for a college there.
You claimed that I picked a college in the middle of no where.  I stated that Salem isn't in the middle of nowhere and that it was one of the largest State Colleges in the state(i dunno if you ignored that part intentionally)

And what would you describe as intellectual success? I would describe it as knowing that you worked to your potential and got into a good college which would open up a lot of opportunities to go into a lot of fields. The fact I have done my work with a little bit of pride in high school and am on my way to getting into a good college does not mean I only care about money, it means I want the freedom to be recognized by employers and have an opportunity to make a damn good life for myself

No, that's just pride. Also, having the freedom to by recognized by employers and having an opportunity to make a damn good life seems to be entirely about money.

Explain how going to college for something in the medical field, like you gave an example of earlier, gives you any more of a freedom to be recognized by Employers than a computer science degree would be?


It's not like you can suddenly take that medical degree and become a Lawyer because you paid more to go to college.    You are going to be in the medical field  if you go to medical school.   You are granted no more freedom than a person who would get the CS degree.

And $100,000+ doing something you enjoy isn't a good life for yourself?


Also, the intellectual success I was referring to was having the intellect to think for yourself and realizing there is more to life then a salary.



Once again. Explain how going to a better college and getting a degree in something suddenly gives you access to a whole lot more fields then a person who went to a decent college.


I'm pretty sure a law firm will pick the graduate from a small Law School over the graduate from Oxford who majored in English or Physics.    I'm curious as to how you can think that going to a better school gives you the ability to work in more fields.

Sure it helps you more in that specific field when you are going for the initial job.    But that stays within the field you went to school for.

[Title27GT]

When you live in a city it's not really looking for a college there.
You claimed that I picked a college in the middle of no where.  I stated that Salem isn't in the middle of nowhere and that it was one of the largest State Colleges in the state(i dunno if you ignored that part intentionally)
No, that's just pride. Also, having the freedom to by recognized by employers and having an opportunity to make a damn good life seems to be entirely about money.

Explain how going to college for something in the medical field, like you gave an example of earlier, gives you any more of a freedom to be recognized by Employers than a computer science degree would be?


It's not like you can suddenly take that medical degree and become a Lawyer because you paid more to go to college.    You are going to be in the medical field  if you go to medical school.   You are granted no more freedom than a person who would get the CS degree.

And $100,000+ doing something you enjoy isn't a good life for yourself?


Also, the intellectual success I was referring to was having the intellect to think for yourself and realizing there is more to life then a salary.



Once again. Explain how going to a better college and getting a degree in something suddenly gives you access to a whole lot more fields then a person who went to a decent college.


I'm pretty sure a law firm will pick the graduate from a small Law School over the graduate from Oxford who majored in English or Physics.    I'm curious as to how you can think that going to a better school gives you the ability to work in more fields.

Sure it helps you more in that specific field when you are going for the initial job.    But that stays within the field you went to school for.

Like I said, I don't trust you to work your way up far enough to make 100,000 dollars a year. Having a Medical Degree won't make you as flexible, but you're still going to make around 500,000 dollars a year.

[Feynman]

Studying for medicine takes up many many years of just school and preparation, and the starting salary isn't even that good. Besides, once you work your way up to a higher salary, your schedule will not permit you to have said "good life".

[Title27GT]

Studying for medicine takes up many many years of just school and preparation, and the starting salary isn't even that good. Besides, once you work your way up to a higher salary, your schedule will not permit you to have said "good life".

maybe if you didn't keep bringing up the medical profession this discussion wouldn't keep going off course

[Daddy]

Like I said, I don't trust you to work your way up far enough to make 100,000 dollars a year. Having a Medical Degree won't make you as flexible, but you're still going to make around 500,000 dollars a year.

Are you retarded?  The charts I showed you are the AVERAGE salaries.   Even if I make less than average, I would be making more than 100,000. 

Also, nice job suddenly switching what you said.  Now suddenly going to a good school doesn't make you flexible.  o wait there is that nice sum of money you mentioned as not being important.

maybe if you didn't keep bringing up the medical profession this discussion wouldn't keep going off course

You first brought it up. 

[Title27GT]

Are you retarded?  The charts I showed you are the AVERAGE salaries.   Even if I make less than average, I would be making more than 100,000. 

Also, nice job suddenly switching what you said.  Now suddenly going to a good school doesn't make you flexible.  o wait there is that nice sum of money you mentioned as not being important. You first brought it up. 

What? Are you fucking retarded? You asked me how going to Med School will make you flexible and I said it wouldn't make you as flexible but you're still going to be making around 500,000 dollars a year.

[unwelc0med]

What? Are you fucking retarded? You asked me how going to Med School will make you flexible and I said it wouldn't make you as flexible but you're still going to be making around 500,000 dollars a year.

Damn that's a lot

[Feynman]

you're still going to be making around 500,000 dollars a year.

Yeah, if you're working a 24-hour shift and constantly treating/diagnosing/whatever. Stop being an idiot, no you wont.