Recently purchased, played & beaten

[TooB]

Dragon Quest IV done

[strongbad]

Nice the DS port? Always wanted to finish that

[TooB]

Nice the DS port? Always wanted to finish that

yeah the DS port. I'd love to own the NES version though.

[Kalahari Inkantation]

That's cool. I still don't really care, mainly because the changed stuff is all optional anyway. As far as I can tell, it does nothing to affect the main game. Most nobody is even going to really know about these changes unless they have done as you said they have, and already played the game. And if they have already played the game, this shouldn't bother them as much as it does, because they;ve already experienced it. Let us experience it our own way.

as someone who has no investment whatsoever in fire emblem, this argument doesn't sit well with me

the fact that it might not significantly affect the main game (although it sounds like some of the changes are glaring omissions) doesn't mean it's negligible

i think fans have every right to be upset when content is removed from a game during localization, especially if it isn't replaced with something equally substantial

and when the justification for the removal of content is something as patronizing as 'we arbitrarily deem the american audience too immature to handle it !!', it's adding insult to injury

what exactly makes nintendo of america the arbiter of questionable content in a game rated t that's unaltered for any other audience

and not to go off too much longer on this, it has to be known, that stuff like this HAS to go down in order for the US to get many of these games. The content in some japanese games doesn't sit too well over here, and that's the sad truth.

no other company seems to feel this way except for helicopter parent nintendo

i can't think of a single other recent american localization that suppressed any homosexual content, and again as it's a t-rated game why should its presence be problematic at all

This is just me wishing people could just enjoy games anymore, instead of thinking there's some huge conspiracy at work here.

but they are getting objectively less for their dollar than the japanese audience is

Nobody would even KNOW about these changes if they hadn't either read up on a bunch of stuff prior

keeping up with trailers and previews and other pre-release promo material is what fans of almost any media are naturally inclined to do, of course any fe fan who'd been paying attention would be aware of these features

and if they took an interest in them, which many evidently did, well too bad because puritan mama nintendo has decided it's not appropriate for your virgin eyes

even if it were arguable that nobody would otherwise know these changes, that still doesn't excuse them

also the fact that much of the altered content is optional is just as much an argument against censorship as it is for it -- one could just as easily skip that content if they found it bothersome

that being said i'm personally quite disturbed that fire emblem has been gradually turning into a glorified, overpriced eroge, but nonetheless i can't defend the constant pattern of destructive localizations by a fallaciously overprotective nintendo, it's an insult to and demonstrates a complete lack of respect for their fans and creates controversy where there would otherwise be none

[TooB]

ugh.... yes yes, i was out of line, thank you.

[TooB]

I dunno, maybe I was talking mostly outta my ass, but it just inherently annoys me when any game comes out, and there's always SOMETHING wrong, you know? Nobody seems to be able to have just, plain fun with a game anymore.

I don't, and have never defended a company taking things out, or dramatically changing something, but usually when I read about these things, they're blown WAY out of proportion, or at least seem to be to me.

I mean, it's not like they took out entire missions, but yeah, I understand not getting everything, but there are worse things they could've done.

I dunno, it's just how I feel

[Kalahari Inkantation]

well, i don't think you're out of line for expressing an opinion lol (especially not on boyah where all opinions are equally valid), but i do think it's necessary to at least consider why such changes might be disappointing to fans

[TooB]

well, i don't think you're out of line for expressing an opinion lol (especially not on boyah where all opinions are equally valid), but i do think it's necessary to at least consider why such changes might be disappointing to fans

I do, believe me I do.
but I have seen some people say to outright boycott the game.
Doesn't that seem a little bit too much of an overreaction to this?

[Kalahari Inkantation]

if you're one of a rare breed of especially principled gamer, then no, i think that's a perfectly valid way to voice frustration

but the wholly unsurprising fact of the matter is that the overwhelming majority of fe fans who are making a loud fuss over nintendo's legitimately insulting localization job have no such principles and are going to be buying all three paths at full price anyway, which to nintendo sends a loud and clear message that they can get away with whatever kinds of misguided """localization""" and censorship they want in future titles lol

[TooB]

if you're one of a rare breed of especially principled gamer, then no, i think that's a perfectly valid way to voice frustration

but the wholly unsurprising fact of the matter is that the overwhelming majority of fe fans who are making a loud fuss over nintendo's insulting localization job have no such principles and are going to be buying all three paths at full price anyway, which to nintendo sends a loud and clear message that they can get away with whatever kinds of misguided localization they want in future titles lol

lol that is true. that is also what gets me.
they hate all these things nintendo is doing, but still fully support them. Which, as we all know, has been going on since nintendo got stupid

[TooB]

also, got pokemon yellow, because....

yeah...

[Kalahari Inkantation]

i mean look at this

http://games.mxdwn.com/news/fire-emblem-fates-has-the-best-launch-for-a-fire-emblem-game-ever/

so much for that """boycott""", so much for all those loud objections to noa's clear botching of the game

gamers are the most braindead and self-destructive consumer base on the face of the earth i swear to god

[TooB]

i mean look at this

http://games.mxdwn.com/news/fire-emblem-fates-has-the-best-launch-for-a-fire-emblem-game-ever/

so much for that """boycott""", so much for all those loud objections to noa's botching of the game

gamers are the most braindead and self-destructive consumer base on the face of the earth i swear to god

it is true...

you can probably look at Street Fighter V and see a similar outcome, of which I am to blame as well

[Kalahari Inkantation]

if you're one of a rare breed of especially principled gamer, then no, i think that's a perfectly valid way to voice frustration

but the wholly unsurprising fact of the matter is that the overwhelming majority of fe fans who are making a loud fuss over nintendo's insulting localization job have no such principles and are going to be buying all three paths at full price anyway, which to nintendo sends a loud and clear message that they can get away with whatever kinds of misguided localization they want in future titles lol

they hate all these things nintendo is doing, but still fully support them. Which, as we all know, has been going on since nintendo got stupid

and it only encourages nintendo to be stupider

[TooB]

if you're one of a rare breed of especially principled gamer, then no, i think that's a perfectly valid way to voice frustration

but the wholly unsurprising fact of the matter is that the overwhelming majority of fe fans who are making a loud fuss over nintendo's insulting localization job have no such principles and are going to be buying all three paths at full price anyway, which to nintendo sends a loud and clear message that they can get away with whatever kinds of misguided localization they want in future titles lol

they hate all these things nintendo is doing, but still fully support them. Which, as we all know, has been going on since nintendo got stupid

and it only encourages nintendo to be stupider

amiibos