The FDA, and natural cures

ncba93ivyase · August 27, 2007, 06:59:37 PM

Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 27, 2007, 06:58:31 PM
wtc; are you trying to say

that he has no idea what hes talking about

musica.cards · August 27, 2007, 07:02:44 PM

Quote from: Lawlz on August 27, 2007, 06:59:37 PM
that he has no idea what hes talking about

objection;

I'm (trying) to go somewhere with this. If medicine doesn't work, then what's the point in taking medicine?

guff · August 27, 2007, 07:04:22 PM

Quote from: some_person on August 27, 2007, 07:02:44 PM
I'm (trying) to go somewhere with this. If medicine doesn't work, then what's the point in taking medicine?

What medicine doesn't work?

musica.cards · August 27, 2007, 07:09:55 PM

Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 27, 2007, 07:04:22 PM
What medicine doesn't work?

That was a hypothetical question, now, are you going to answer it or do you want me to just come out with my point?

guff · August 27, 2007, 07:20:35 PM

Quote from: some_person on August 27, 2007, 07:09:55 PM
That was a hypothetical question, now, are you going to answer it or do you want me to just come out with my point?

get on with it

musica.cards · August 27, 2007, 07:21:34 PM

Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 27, 2007, 07:20:35 PM
get on with it

The Placebo Effect is medicine all the same.

V · August 28, 2007, 11:21:45 AM

Quote from: xXTheHaunted on August 27, 2007, 07:33:28 PM
But drugs make me feel better.

Begone, you do not belong here.

guff · August 28, 2007, 12:05:41 PM

Quote from: some_person on August 27, 2007, 07:21:34 PM
The Placebo Effect is medicine all the same.

No, it's a psychological phenomena.

musica.cards · August 28, 2007, 03:46:46 PM

Quote from: Commodore Guff on August 28, 2007, 12:05:41 PM
No, it's a psychological phenomena.

Explain to me what the Placebo Effect does then.

V · August 28, 2007, 03:50:02 PM

Quote from: some_person on August 28, 2007, 03:46:46 PM
Explain to me what the Placebo Effect does then.

Google is your friend.

musica.cards · August 28, 2007, 03:52:29 PM

Quote from: The Joker on August 28, 2007, 03:50:02 PM
Google is your friend.

For the sake of the debate, please explain what the Placebo Effect is*

*And besides, Google isn't really my friend.

guff · August 28, 2007, 03:53:03 PM

Quote from: some_person on August 28, 2007, 03:46:46 PM
Explain to me what the Placebo Effect does then.

Stop capitalizing it, first.

just read the intro part of the placebo entry on wikipedia

Quote from: some_person on August 28, 2007, 03:52:29 PM
For the sake of the debate, please explain what the Placebo Effect is

uh why

ncba93ivyase · August 28, 2007, 03:54:09 PM

Quote from: some_person on August 28, 2007, 03:46:46 PM
Explain to me what the Placebo Effect does then.

EXPLAINED IN THE SIMPLEST POSSIBLE WAY:

Doctor has some test patients. Some are given medication that is meant to help them recover, and another few get pills that are just little chunks of nothingness.

The doctor records the progress of both patients.

If he sees the patients that took the little chunks of nothingness "recover," it was all psychological.

musica.cards · August 28, 2007, 03:56:09 PM

Quote from: Lawlz on August 28, 2007, 03:54:09 PM
EXPLAINED IN THE SIMPLEST POSSIBLE WAY:

Doctor has some test patients. Some are given medication that is meant to help them recover, and another few get pills that are just little chunks of nothingness.

The doctor records the progress of both patients.

If he sees the patients that took the little chunks of nothingness "recover," it was all psychological.

I've seen pretty amazing stuff that involves the mind, do you think that the placebo effect could be used to soothe Arthritis pain? It's up to the mind to process pain, right?

guff · August 28, 2007, 03:59:37 PM

Quote from: some_person on August 28, 2007, 03:56:09 PM
I've seen pretty amazing stuff that involves the mind, do you think that the placebo effect could be used to soothe Arthritis pain? It's up to the mind to process pain, right?

IGNORING HOW IDIOTIC THAT SOUNDS

uh for one, it's not very consistent, and it doesn't work if the patient actually knows the treatment or medicine is a placebo

The FDA, and natural cures

ncba93ivyase

August 27, 2007, 06:59:37 PM #90

musica.cards

August 27, 2007, 07:02:44 PM #91

guff

August 27, 2007, 07:04:22 PM #92

musica.cards

August 27, 2007, 07:09:55 PM #93

guff

August 27, 2007, 07:20:35 PM #94

musica.cards

August 27, 2007, 07:21:34 PM #95

V

August 28, 2007, 11:21:45 AM #96

guff

August 28, 2007, 12:05:41 PM #97

musica.cards

August 28, 2007, 03:46:46 PM #98

V

August 28, 2007, 03:50:02 PM #99

musica.cards

August 28, 2007, 03:52:29 PM #100

guff

August 28, 2007, 03:53:03 PM #101

ncba93ivyase

August 28, 2007, 03:54:09 PM #102

musica.cards

August 28, 2007, 03:56:09 PM #103

guff

August 28, 2007, 03:59:37 PM #104