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Is being gay a choice or a genetic trait?

Started by hotlikesauce., November 15, 2009, 01:06:53 PM

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Is being Gay a choice or a genetic trait/defect?

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Genetic Trait/Defect
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Enviromental Factor
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Quote from: JMV on November 15, 2009, 01:31:18 PM
Is being straight a choice?
Being straight is the basic framework of evolution. We're only on this earth to reproduce with women.

Quote from: Alyssa the Glowing Sole on November 15, 2009, 01:30:49 PM
If it was entirely environmental, you'd get not as many closeted, frightened folks from intolerant places (the Sout') as you do. The environment is harder to study for, though. It's true that there are far more queers in cities, and that's not just because of uban/suburban migration patterns.

Still, it's based on who people are. So 80% nature, 20% nurture is a safe bet.
Homosexuality seems to breed from intolerance. That's why you'll find that almost half the male population of Barbados is Gay-and rising. It's something about the oppressive, overly religious conditions in places like that where homosexuality seems to grow and multiply like a fungus.

Minus;

That kind of generalization can't be made.

the shortest route to the sea

Quote from: Title on November 15, 2009, 02:05:02 PM
Being straight is the basic framework of evolution. We're only on this earth to reproduce with women.


I'm glad you feel that you have a purpose in life, however fucked up it is.


QuoteHomosexuality seems to breed from intolerance. That's why you'll find that almost half the male population of Barbados is Gay-and rising. It's something about the oppressive, overly religious conditions in places like that where homosexuality seems to grow and multiply like a fungus.


Interesting, but totally wrong. Queer persons get the least crap about who they are in the cities, and the cities tend to have the highest queer populations. This isn't just a matter of safety; the amount of queer persons born is higher in more metropolitan areas...and by extension (and by data), more developed countries. There's a reason Thailand has the largest population of transpersons in the world, and it's not because it's particurally oppressive against who they are.

And where the FUCK are you getting 50% and up?


Quote from: Socks on January 04, 2011, 01:56:24 AM
pompous talk for my eyes water and quiver with a twitch like a little bitch

Hiro

Quote from: Alyssa the Glowing Sole on November 15, 2009, 02:10:14 PM
I'm glad you feel that you have a purpose in life, however fucked up it is.
From a biological perspective, Title is actually right in this aspect.  awdood;

Minus;

did you ever think that homosexuality is natures evolutionary sort of way to gaurd against overpopulation?
which isn't doing a very good job, just stating how thats a different way to view it.

Hiro

Quote from: justjack on November 15, 2009, 02:24:55 PM
did you ever think that homosexuality is natures evolutionary sort of way to gaurd against overpopulation?
which isn't doing a very good job, just stating how thats a different way to view it.
Hmm, interesting idea befuddlement

Minus;

I think it could be plausible. or how its existance would make sense just because there is an opposite to nearly everything in this world.

hotlikesauce.

Quote from: justjack on November 15, 2009, 02:24:55 PM
did you ever think that homosexuality is natures evolutionary sort of way to gaurd against overpopulation?
which isn't doing a very good job, just stating how thats a different way to view it.


Well, if we were "evolving" into homosexuality (the select few of us), wouldn't the gene for this trait have died out with the people?

Minus;

No. Its an ongoing thing that will never completely engulf the population, or completely die down.
It will be something that will just vary, like being left handed or something.

hotlikesauce.

Quote from: justjack on November 15, 2009, 02:32:54 PM
No. Its an ongoing thing that will never completely engulf the population, or completely die down.
It will be something that will just vary, like being left handed or something.


Hmmm. I guess it could be more apparent, but societal norms restrict it, although it's been getting more and more accepted nowadays.

YPrrrr

I lean towards it being a genetic trait, or at least somehow affected in a subtle way that defies choice.
Quote from: Alyssa the Glowing Sole on November 15, 2009, 02:10:14 PM

Interesting, but totally wrong. Queer persons get the least crap about who they are in the cities, and the cities tend to have the highest queer populations.
Must be all that fluoride in the water

Socks

Uhh... just because something may be genetic does not grant it any positive standing. It is at best an anomaly. Sickle cell is genetic too. It does not mean however that we need to promote it and celebrate its cause as a condition among people.

YPrrrr

Quote from: Socks on November 15, 2009, 03:05:10 PM
Uhh... just because something may be genetic does not grant it any positive standing. It is at best an anomaly. Sickle cell is genetic too. It does not mean however that we need to promote it and celebrate its cause as a condition among people.
At least it prevents malaria

Socks


Title

Quote from: Socks on November 15, 2009, 03:10:08 PM
and kills black people
I wonder if that kid from Make A Wish on ESPN with sickle cell is still alive


prolly not

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