https://twitter.com/serkantoto/status/1047712098547982336
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well i KNEW what i was getting into, looking back @ the 3ds
oh well lol
if it's like the new 3ds and has exclusive games then i'm selling my switch
huh
Quote from: Nyerp on October 03, 2018, 10:48:27 PMif it's like the new 3ds and has exclusive games then i'm selling my switch
This is too soon for that kind of half-gen step. Expect something more like a 2DS/Lite/Micro/whatever.
If it increases the battery life adds an ethernet port I'm sold
there have been practically no useful tech leaps so i dont expect much, if any, performance increase lol. they also can't make the thing thicker if its going to stay flush with the joycons like the current model (unless this includes joycon rework as well, obvs).
i expect any combination of the following:
-better screen (1080p?)
-docked performance in handheld mode
-bigger internal storage
-bluetooth audio
-better kickstand
-slightly better battery, but not by much, especially if my first two points are the case.
i can't really see them going for a tegra x2 upgrade honestly, but it'd be interesting if they did lol. ive gotten $300 worth of usage out of my switch so far so i aint even mad lol
Can't wait for Switch DS™
Quote from: don't let's on October 04, 2018, 07:10:33 AMCan't wait for Switch DS™
i can't wait for the Switch 2DSi XL personally
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 04, 2018, 05:24:48 AMi expect any combination of the following:
-better screen (1080p?)
-docked performance in handheld mode
-bigger internal storage
-bluetooth audio
-better kickstand
-slightly better battery, but not by much, especially if my first two points are the case.
Wow, your expectations are rather high O_0
Other than maybe better battery life, I expect none of those. Especially not 1080p, docked performance in handheld, or BT audio (which the current hardware does support, just not the software).
I've been saying for a while that the handheld market is really what they need to focus on, especially by the time pokemon gen8 releases, in terms of factors like mostly price but also battery life and durability. There's a reason they're taking so long to phase out the 3DS line. Some changes this might include are:
* Like the leak suggests, a different type of panel that draws less power, possibly having better brightness/contrast too but still 720p at most. They might even lower the resolution.
* Non-removable controls. It'd probably still support (sold separately) Joy-Cons wirelessly, but can't attach them.
* Take out the dock too to lower the price some more, maybe sell it separately.
* A bootloader that isn't so easy to hack
Some of the more optimistic possible inclusions I can think of that probably won't happen include:
* Built-in mic for voice chat without the app
* Smaller overall console because merging the controllers gives them more internal space to work with
* A stylus
* An optional power saving mode that downclocks things even further
A CAMERA FROM A 2012 SMARTPHONE LIKE THE DSI!!!
u may be right bluaki, i dont know a ton about hardware design OBVIOUSLY but my rationale was if they put in a thinner screen, then there would be more room for battery and therefore a slight bump in handheld performance. 1080p is probably pushing it, but realistically i can't think of any other 'upgrades' lol.
also i suppose a joycon redesign isnt out of the question too, but otherwise the thing has to retain almost the exact same formfactor as it has today doodhuh; can't be any wider or taller or else the cons won't be fit to the console. maybe it will just twice as long though!!!!
Maybe a smaller screen/more pocketable version?
this is right in line with nintendo's very predictable handheld hardware release schedule, so i'm not at all surprised
they never go longer than ~two years without releasing a new or updated portable, it's been that since that way since at least the gameboy advance
2001: gameboy advance (and gamecube)
2003: gameboy advance sp
2004: ds
2005: gameboy micro
2006: ds lite (and wii)
2008: dsi
2009: dsi xl
2011: 3ds (and wii family edition)
2012: 3ds xl (and wii u, and wii mini)
2013: 2ds
2014: new 3ds (xl)
(2015: standard new 3ds in north america)
2017: new 2ds xl (and switch)
2019: nu-switch xl mini
~2021: switch 3d
and the only reason there's a longer than usual gap between the new 3ds and the switch is because the wii u was abandoned early (in 2012) and then the switch itself got delayed into 2017, but now they're resuming their regular release schedule
as the 3ds lies on its deathbed and the switch is now their primary portable device, it'll be the switch that gets the biennial hardware upgrades from now until the next generation
anyway, even knowing this was inevitable, it's still maddening
Do I but a Switch this year, just for Smash, knowing that within months it'll be an outdated piece of trash even by Nintendo standards? Do I forget about Smash and wait another year? ugh awdood;
otherwise i would be perfectly content to just wait until 2019 if not for smash, i have no interest in rushing to buy a new console and the switch has exactly one other good game smithicide;
You forgot about switch vr
Also, you could say starting with the game boy pocket
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_family#History
Or with the play it loud campaign
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy#Play_It_Loud! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy#Play_It_Loud!)
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 04, 2018, 05:24:48 AMdocked performance in handheld mode
But how could they achieve this
without an updated processor? befuddlement
or an enormous battery upgrade i guess lol
Quote from: bluaki on October 03, 2018, 11:03:09 PMQuote from: Nyerp on October 03, 2018, 10:48:27 PMif it's like the new 3ds and has exclusive games then i'm selling my switch
This is too soon for that kind of half-gen step. Expect something more like a 2DS/Lite/Micro/whatever.
the tegra x2 really isn't
that much of an upgrade from the x1
it's barely over ~40% superior, which isn't nearly enough to be a "half-gen step": the ps4 pro('s gpu) is 2.333x as powerful as the ps4, for example, and the xbox one x is 4.666x the xbox one
and that's not even considering their cpus, which also got a boost
the tegra x2, meanwhile, is 1.46x the x1, which is nothing compared to the scale of the ps4 and xbox one upgrades
in fact a 1.46x improvement would basically be right in line with the new 3ds compared to the 3ds
in addition to and perhaps more importantly than that (measly) ~40% performance boost, the tegra x2 does have the same or even lower power requirements as the x1, and those enhancements combined mean it likely could at the very least allow for docked performance in handheld mode, without a battery life penalty, and without at all breaking the current switch's compatibility with future games
really, the only reason for them to forgo the tegra x2 again would be the harm it might do to their profit margins
also the ps4 pro came out 2 years and 10 months after the ps4's initial launch, so a mid-step upgrade around that time wouldn't be unprecedented within the industry at least, but again the x2 wouldn't be anything near a half-gen upgrade from the tegra x1 lol
Quote from: bluaki on October 04, 2018, 09:29:13 AMI've been saying for a while that the handheld market is really what they need to focus on, especially by the time pokemon gen8 releases, in terms of factors like mostly price but also battery life and durability. There's a reason they're taking so long to phase out the 3DS line. Some changes this might include are:
* Like the leak suggests, a different type of panel that draws less power, possibly having better brightness/contrast too but still 720p at most. They might even lower the resolution.
* Non-removable controls. It'd probably still support (sold separately) Joy-Cons wirelessly, but can't attach them.
* Take out the dock too to lower the price some more, maybe sell it separately.
* A bootloader that isn't so easy to hack
Quote from: SloppyJimbo on October 04, 2018, 07:27:26 PMMaybe a smaller screen/more pocketable version?
i would welcome these changes +tegra x2 so long as it still had uncompromised hdmi out, but the switch is still allegedly a home console and i'd be surprised if nintendo abandons that marketing angle as soon as next year
it would be very hard to deny that a switch revision like this is simply a portable with hdmi out
which, i mean, it is, but the dock obfuscates that so that they can still call it a hybrid
Quote from: don't let's on October 05, 2018, 08:17:37 PMAlso, you could say starting with the game boy pocket
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_family#History
Or with the play it loud campaign
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy#Play_It_Loud!
true, i had forgotten that even the original gameboy got remodels, so it arguably goes back even further than the advance
the unbroken biennial pattern however does begin with the advance lol