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Title: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: 6M69I69B9 on October 03, 2018, 10:23:21 PM
https://twitter.com/serkantoto/status/1047712098547982336

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well i KNEW what i was getting into, looking back @ the 3ds
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: Samus Aran on October 03, 2018, 10:45:19 PM
oh well lol
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: Nyerp on October 03, 2018, 10:48:27 PM
if it's like the new 3ds and has exclusive games then i'm selling my switch
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: AAAAAAAA on October 03, 2018, 11:00:29 PM
huh
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: bluaki on October 03, 2018, 11:03:09 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on October 03, 2018, 10:48:27 PMif it's like the new 3ds and has exclusive games then i'm selling my switch
This is too soon for that kind of half-gen step. Expect something more like a 2DS/Lite/Micro/whatever.
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: YPrrrr on October 04, 2018, 04:56:01 AM
If it increases the battery life adds an ethernet port I'm sold
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: C.Mongler on October 04, 2018, 05:24:48 AM
there have been practically no useful tech leaps so i dont expect much, if any, performance increase lol. they also can't make the thing thicker if its going to stay flush with the joycons like the current model (unless this includes joycon rework as well, obvs).

i expect any combination of the following:
-better screen (1080p?)
-docked performance in handheld mode
-bigger internal storage
-bluetooth audio
-better kickstand
-slightly better battery, but not by much, especially if my first two points are the case.

i can't really see them going for a tegra x2 upgrade honestly, but it'd be interesting if they did lol. ive gotten $300 worth of usage out of my switch so far so i aint even mad lol
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Post by: don't let's on October 04, 2018, 07:10:33 AM
Can't wait for Switch DS™
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: ME## on October 04, 2018, 09:26:49 AM
Quote from: don't let's on October 04, 2018, 07:10:33 AMCan't wait for Switch DS™
i can't wait for the Switch 2DSi XL personally
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: bluaki on October 04, 2018, 09:29:13 AM
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 04, 2018, 05:24:48 AMi expect any combination of the following:
-better screen (1080p?)
-docked performance in handheld mode
-bigger internal storage
-bluetooth audio
-better kickstand
-slightly better battery, but not by much, especially if my first two points are the case.
Wow, your expectations are rather high O_0

Other than maybe better battery life, I expect none of those. Especially not 1080p, docked performance in handheld, or BT audio (which the current hardware does support, just not the software).

I've been saying for a while that the handheld market is really what they need to focus on, especially by the time pokemon gen8 releases, in terms of factors like mostly price but also battery life and durability. There's a reason they're taking so long to phase out the 3DS line. Some changes this might include are:
* Like the leak suggests, a different type of panel that draws less power, possibly having better brightness/contrast too but still 720p at most. They might even lower the resolution.
* Non-removable controls. It'd probably still support (sold separately) Joy-Cons wirelessly, but can't attach them.
* Take out the dock too to lower the price some more, maybe sell it separately.
* A bootloader that isn't so easy to hack

Some of the more optimistic possible inclusions I can think of that probably won't happen include:
* Built-in mic for voice chat without the app
* Smaller overall console because merging the controllers gives them more internal space to work with
* A stylus
* An optional power saving mode that downclocks things even further
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: C.Mongler on October 04, 2018, 10:12:20 AM
A CAMERA FROM A 2012 SMARTPHONE LIKE THE DSI!!!
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Post by: C.Mongler on October 04, 2018, 10:15:19 AM
u may be right bluaki, i dont know a ton about hardware design OBVIOUSLY but my rationale was if they put in a thinner screen, then there would be more room for battery and therefore a slight bump in handheld performance. 1080p is probably pushing it, but realistically i can't think of any other 'upgrades' lol. 


also i suppose a joycon redesign isnt out of the question too, but otherwise the thing has to retain almost the exact same formfactor as it has today  doodhuh; can't be any wider or taller or else the cons won't be fit to the console. maybe it will just twice as long though!!!!
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: AAAAAAAA on October 04, 2018, 07:27:26 PM
Maybe a smaller screen/more pocketable version?
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Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on October 05, 2018, 07:41:56 PM
this is right in line with nintendo's very predictable handheld hardware release schedule, so i'm not at all surprised

they never go longer than ~two years without releasing a new or updated portable, it's been that since that way since at least the gameboy advance

2001: gameboy advance (and gamecube)

2003: gameboy advance sp

2004: ds

2005: gameboy micro

2006: ds lite (and wii)

2008: dsi

2009: dsi xl

2011: 3ds (and wii family edition)

2012: 3ds xl (and wii u, and wii mini)

2013: 2ds

2014: new 3ds (xl)

(2015: standard new 3ds in north america)

2017: new 2ds xl (and switch)

2019: nu-switch xl mini

~2021: switch 3d

and the only reason there's a longer than usual gap between the new 3ds and the switch is because the wii u was abandoned early (in 2012) and then the switch itself got delayed into 2017, but now they're resuming their regular release schedule

as the 3ds lies on its deathbed and the switch is now their primary portable device, it'll be the switch that gets the biennial hardware upgrades from now until the next generation

anyway, even knowing this was inevitable, it's still maddening

Do I but a Switch this year, just for Smash, knowing that within months it'll be an outdated piece of trash even by Nintendo standards? Do I forget about Smash and wait another year? ugh awdood;

otherwise i would be perfectly content to just wait until 2019 if not for smash, i have no interest in rushing to buy a new console and the switch has exactly one other good game smithicide;
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: don't let's on October 05, 2018, 08:11:21 PM
You forgot about switch vr
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Post by: don't let's on October 05, 2018, 08:17:37 PM
Also, you could say starting with the game boy pocket

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_family#History

Or with the play it loud campaign

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy#Play_It_Loud! (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy#Play_It_Loud!)
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on October 05, 2018, 08:52:41 PM
Quote from: C.Mongler on October 04, 2018, 05:24:48 AMdocked performance in handheld mode

But how could they achieve this without an updated processor? befuddlement

or an enormous battery upgrade i guess lol

Quote from: bluaki on October 03, 2018, 11:03:09 PM
Quote from: Nyerp on October 03, 2018, 10:48:27 PMif it's like the new 3ds and has exclusive games then i'm selling my switch
This is too soon for that kind of half-gen step. Expect something more like a 2DS/Lite/Micro/whatever.

the tegra x2 really isn't that much of an upgrade from the x1

it's barely over ~40% superior, which isn't nearly enough to be a "half-gen step": the ps4 pro('s gpu) is 2.333x as powerful as the ps4, for example, and the xbox one x is 4.666x the xbox one

and that's not even considering their cpus, which also got a boost

the tegra x2, meanwhile, is 1.46x the x1, which is nothing compared to the scale of the ps4 and xbox one upgrades

in fact a 1.46x improvement would basically be right in line with the new 3ds compared to the 3ds

in addition to and perhaps more importantly than that (measly) ~40% performance boost, the tegra x2 does have the same or even lower power requirements as the x1, and those enhancements combined mean it likely could at the very least allow for docked performance in handheld mode, without a battery life penalty, and without at all breaking the current switch's compatibility with future games

really, the only reason for them to forgo the tegra x2 again would be the harm it might do to their profit margins

also the ps4 pro came out 2 years and 10 months after the ps4's initial launch, so a mid-step upgrade around that time wouldn't be unprecedented within the industry at least, but again the x2 wouldn't be anything near a half-gen upgrade from the tegra x1 lol

Quote from: bluaki on October 04, 2018, 09:29:13 AMI've been saying for a while that the handheld market is really what they need to focus on, especially by the time pokemon gen8 releases, in terms of factors like mostly price but also battery life and durability. There's a reason they're taking so long to phase out the 3DS line. Some changes this might include are:
* Like the leak suggests, a different type of panel that draws less power, possibly having better brightness/contrast too but still 720p at most. They might even lower the resolution.
* Non-removable controls. It'd probably still support (sold separately) Joy-Cons wirelessly, but can't attach them.
* Take out the dock too to lower the price some more, maybe sell it separately.
* A bootloader that isn't so easy to hack

Quote from: SloppyJimbo on October 04, 2018, 07:27:26 PMMaybe a smaller screen/more pocketable version?

i would welcome these changes +tegra x2 so long as it still had uncompromised hdmi out, but the switch is still allegedly a home console and i'd be surprised if nintendo abandons that marketing angle as soon as next year

it would be very hard to deny that a switch revision like this is simply a portable with hdmi out

which, i mean, it is, but the dock obfuscates that so that they can still call it a hybrid
Title: Re: NEW SWITCH MODEL, 2ND HALF OF 2019...LMaO
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on October 05, 2018, 09:02:29 PM
Quote from: don't let's on October 05, 2018, 08:17:37 PMAlso, you could say starting with the game boy pocket

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy_family#History

Or with the play it loud campaign

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_Boy#Play_It_Loud!

true, i had forgotten that even the original gameboy got remodels, so it arguably goes back even further than the advance

the unbroken biennial pattern however does begin with the advance lol