Boyah Forums

General => The Lobby => Topic started by: on December 31, 1969, 04:00:00 PM

Poll
Question: Which is your preferred web browser?
Option 1: Internet Explorer votes: 0
Option 2: Microsoft Edge votes: 0
Option 3: Opera votes: 0
Option 4: Firefox votes: 5
Option 5: Safari votes: 0
Option 6: Chrome votes: 3
Option 7: Other votes: 0
Title: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 18, 2018, 03:25:56 PM
g**gle's molestive tendrils have such a firm grasp on me that the only sensible option for me is chrime, and i can't see that changing anytime soon even though i fully acknowledge that chrime is the new internet explorer in addition to being an unapologetic botnet

aside from the extremely convenient native integration with g**gle services, chrime's also just the most fully featured browser in general lol

chrime is my browser of choice/habit on android too, even though i know that samsung's browser is measurably significantly faster and offers ad blocking
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 03:53:59 PM
I use waterfox on pc, and sometimes chrome,  and sometimes edge because it's set as default.

And chrome on android because it's pre-installed and disabling it won't really save me any space and installing another one would just take up more space.
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 03:58:57 PM
And I'm fine with chrome on android, but I don't like how on pc all of the processes it makes the more tabs you have. And that the tab bar doesn't scroll like on firefox. The tabs just keep getting smaller up to where the favicon doesn't show and I have no idea what tab is what. So then I have to open multiple chrome windows to combat that.
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: YPrrrr on September 18, 2018, 04:01:36 PM
If I'm not using chrome i feel like I'm living in the aughts
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 18, 2018, 04:11:00 PM
Quote from: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 03:58:57 PMAnd I'm fine with chrome on android, but I don't like how on pc all of the processes it makes the more tabs you have. And that the tab bar doesn't scroll like on firefox. The tabs just keep getting smaller up to where the favicon doesn't show and I have no idea what tab is what. So then I have to open multiple chrome windows to combat that.

i agree with all of this, chime is undeniably a resource hog and it's the primary reason i was forced to double my ram to 16gb lol

sometimes even that's not enough, and it's increasingly evident that my cpu isn't enough for chrime (or, at least, my usage of chrime) either myface;

but on the other hand, having tabs scroll makes them practically invisible and not immediately accessible and makes it harder to estimate just how many you might have open (unless furryfox now has some sort of an open tab count, i admittedly haven't actually used it in ages)
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: C.Mongler on September 18, 2018, 05:30:33 PM
firefox is god tier


chrome is fine tier


everything else is poopoomcgoo tier
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 18, 2018, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 03:53:59 PMwaterfox

also til this is a real thing, although i guess i'm not surprised as many browsers have forks and waterfox is an obvious choice for a firefox fork lol
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Mando Pandango on September 18, 2018, 06:12:00 PM
Firefox on PC, chrome on mobile. Since forever
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 06:21:45 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 03:53:59 PMwaterfox

also til this is a real thing, although i guess i'm not surprised as many browsers have forks and waterfox is an obvious choice for a firefox fork lol

Waterfox still supports the old firefox add-ons
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 18, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on September 18, 2018, 06:12:00 PMFirefox on PC, chrome on mobile. Since forever

one of the great things about using chrime on both is that a tab or full browsing session opened on one device can be accessed on the other at any time, which is extremely convenient

i would bet that firefox mobile and firefox desktop offer a similar feature, but i can't imagine there's any such cross compatibility between firefox and chrome

So why Firefox on one and Chrome on the other? Especially when Chrome on mobile, specifically, is polluted with unblockable (by traditional means) ads. myface;
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Mando Pandango on September 18, 2018, 06:28:30 PM
Firefox has that too yeah and I hate it. I don't want my shit synced, thanks
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 18, 2018, 06:28:37 PM
Quote from: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 06:21:45 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 03:53:59 PMwaterfox

also til this is a real thing, although i guess i'm not surprised as many browsers have forks and waterfox is an obvious choice for a firefox fork lol

Waterfox still supports the old firefox add-ons

Out of curiosity, what add-ons in particular would you be missing on nu-Firefox? y/n
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 06:29:26 PM
You can always turn off javascript for a mostly sub par browsing experience
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Thyme on September 18, 2018, 06:29:42 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 06:28:37 PMOut of curiosity, what add-ons in particular would you be missing on nu-Firefox? y/n

tab mix plus

rip :'(
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 18, 2018, 06:32:22 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on September 18, 2018, 06:28:30 PMFirefox has that too yeah and I hate it. I don't want my shit synced, thanks

But then what's the appeal of using Chrome on mobile? befuddlement

even i probably wouldn't be using chrime on android (mostly because of the ads) were it not for the fact that i also use it on desktop and i find syncing extremely useful lol

Why wouldn't you want things synced, anyway? befuddlement
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 06:34:38 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 06:28:37 PM
Quote from: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 06:21:45 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 06:06:00 PM
Quote from: don't let's on September 18, 2018, 03:53:59 PMwaterfox

also til this is a real thing, although i guess i'm not surprised as many browsers have forks and waterfox is an obvious choice for a firefox fork lol

Waterfox still supports the old firefox add-ons

Out of curiosity, what add-ons in particular would you be missing on nu-Firefox? y/n

Downthemall, but apparently that guy's working on a compatible version for it. And session manager, I don't know if that got updated or not.

I don't remember what else, if any, because I do most of my browsing on the phone these days :(
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Thyme on September 18, 2018, 06:58:35 PM
oh yeah definitely down them all too :'(
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: bluaki on September 18, 2018, 07:29:25 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 06:27:13 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on September 18, 2018, 06:12:00 PMFirefox on PC, chrome on mobile. Since forever

one of the great things about using chrime on both is that a tab or full browsing session opened on one device can be accessed on the other at any time, which is extremely convenient

i would bet that firefox mobile and firefox desktop offer a similar feature, but i can't imagine there's any such cross compatibility between firefox and chrome

So why Firefox on one and Chrome on the other? Especially when Chrome on mobile, specifically, is polluted with unblockable (by traditional means) ads. myface;
Yeah, I use that feature a lot, which is the main reason I stick to using the same browser on desktop and mobile. If I want to switch to firefox on one, I'd end up switching on the other platform at the same time because of this.

Having no viable adblock options on mobile Chrome is the biggest reason I kinda want to switch to Firefox, but I still haven't. The recent versions of Firefox actually seem really nice.

Too bad my favorite laptop to use is the Pixelbook and the dual-boot non-ChromeOS linux experience I've had so far on it is really subpar, which basically means sticking to Chrome.

By the way, you can set up both Chrome and Firefox to sync to a custom private server instead of to the Google and Mozilla owned clouds, so technically it's possible to set them up to cross-sync if you modify the server software to handle it.
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 18, 2018, 07:53:24 PM
Quote from: Thyme on September 18, 2018, 06:29:42 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 06:28:37 PMOut of curiosity, what add-ons in particular would you be missing on nu-Firefox? y/n

tab mix plus

rip :'(

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_Mix_Plus#Functions

huh, a lot of its features are built into chrime natively

QuoteDuplicates tabs
Opens a new tab with the same page and back/forward history.

you can do this in chrime by middle clicking the refresh button on any tab

QuoteReopen closed tabs and windows
Saves information about tabs and windows as they are closed, allowing the user to "undo" closing them. The reopened page will reopen in the condition it was at the moment it was closed - including containing any text the user had typed into text boxes thereon - such as those on a Wikipedia edit page.

built into chrime, although the fact that it even preserves text is enviable

QuoteSession Manager and Crash Recovery
Saves the current set of open windows and tabs (and associated history), at a preset interval and/or on command. This allows the user to recover from a crash, or to deliberately save the current session, to return to it at a later date, or share a copy with another user.
While Firefox contains a basic session manager functions, Tab Mix Plus has greater functionality in this area. In turn, the Session Manager extension has additional session management functions beyond those of Tab Mix Plus. These two extensions are known to "play nicely together": Tab Mix Plus detects the presence of Session Manager and deactivates its own session management functions, deferring to Session Manager.

built into chrime, although i'm wondering what the "greater functionality" wikipedia mentions is

QuoteJavaScript decompiling
Allows JavaScript to be forced into a separate tab instead of a pop-up box, and allows the user to view the URL of the JavaScript page.

that's certainly cool, though
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Mando Pandango on September 18, 2018, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 06:32:22 PMBut then what's the appeal of using Chrome on mobile? (https://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/nefuddlement.png)
it's default and i don't hate it

Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 06:32:22 PMWhy wouldn't you want things synced, anyway? (https://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/nefuddlement.png)
because it would be a pain in the ass. I use my browsers in wildly different ways on mobile vs. desktop, and I don't need them getting in each other's business thanks
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Thyme on September 18, 2018, 08:02:17 PM
@Magyarorszag lol sure and so does firefox nowadays, but neither have the main feature i was using it for:

locking tabs, keeping you from accidentally closing them
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 18, 2018, 08:06:11 PM
Quote from: Detective Spatchcock on September 18, 2018, 07:54:36 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 06:32:22 PMBut then what's the appeal of using Chrome on mobile? (https://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/nefuddlement.png)
it's default and i don't hate it

Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 06:32:22 PMWhy wouldn't you want things synced, anyway? (https://boyah.net/forums/Smileys/default/nefuddlement.png)
because it would be a pain in the ass. I use my browsers in wildly different ways on mobile vs. desktop, and I don't need them getting in each other's business thanks


now i'm just curious as to how wildly different your usage on mobile vs. desktop could be, and why lol

my browsing habits are about the same on desktop and mobile, and the only real differences i can think of can largely be attributed to the general limitations/discomforts/inconveniences of mobile browsing
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Kalahari Inkantation on September 18, 2018, 08:14:41 PM
Quote from: Thyme on September 18, 2018, 08:02:17 PM@Magyarorszag lol sure and so does firefox nowadays, but neither have the main feature i was using it for:

locking tabs, keeping you from accidentally closing them

How useful is this when you can easily reopen a tab after accidentally closing it anyway? befuddlement

i guess it would prevent you from accidentally closing one without even realizing it, and prevent you from having to reopen an accidentally closed tab even if you did realize it
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: Mando Pandango on September 18, 2018, 08:16:00 PM
I think I use my phone how you use your desktop, my just keeping shit open to refer to later. My desktop I just do whatever, and I usually don't have a tab open for more than a few minutes unless I'm doing assignments, which I would obviously never do on my phone.

It's more like I'm used to them not butting into each other and I'd like to keep it that way.
Title: Re: PotD: Browser Wars
Post by: bluaki on September 18, 2018, 10:50:03 PM
Quote from: Magyarorszag on September 18, 2018, 07:53:24 PMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tab_Mix_Plus#Functions

huh, a lot of its features are built into chrime natively
I just opened Firefox (for Linux) and checked which of these it has now, with zero addons installed:

* Duplicate tab works just like Chrome: You can either middle-click the refresh icon or open the tab's right-click menu
* Undo close tab works like Chrome: Press Ctrl+Shift+T to open the most recently closed tab, and you can open older ones either by repeatedly pressing Ctrl+Shift+T or opening the Library->History->Recently Closed Tabs menu.
* I think Session Manager works similarly too but I'd never use it since I set all my browsers to reopen all previous tabs

Undo Close Window is a bit different than Chrome: Firefox tracks window closing separately, so you have to press Ctrl+Shift+N to reopen a window. If you close one tab in Window 1 then close Window 2 then press Ctrl+Shift+T, Firefox will reopen the Window 1 tab while Chrome will reopen Window 2 with all its tabs.